ICE Shooting in Minneapolis

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have yet to see one Republican agree that ICE receive insufficient job training though it is very obvious they do not. Perhaps call your reps to request better training for them? Our government puts them at risk when they do not provide less training for a federal agent than an average police officer.

Republicans like the unrestrained violence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think “both sides” can learn from stuff here.

Republicans have to reign in these ICE agents. They are out of control. The shooter should be charged with murder.

Protesters need to be more careful. You can’t block traffic, ignore orders to get out of the car, cause chaos and confusion by trying to speed off in your car without consequences. Those consequences shouldn’t be death but she should’ve gotten out of her car and accepted the citation or arrest if it was warranted. She made a bad situation worse. Then the shooter made it 10000x worse.

Before they approached her car, they were yelling at her to move it and she wouldn’t move. That’s why they approached it to pull her out. It’s terrible she was shot. Plenty of bad decisions made all around.

She was not shot. She was executed to send a message. This is how terrorism works.

It was a smart message to send, proof of concept for the midterms.

Democrats “overperforming” in specials and off-year elections doesn’t matter. The Republicans are keeping their powder dry. The federal investigations of Democrats fundraising hasn’t stated yet. The harassment of Democrat campaign workers hasn’t begun. The intimidation of Democrat voters is wildly premature for an election nine months away.

The shooting yesterday will intimidate protesters to back off and let ICE pick up whoever they wish. Do you really want to get shot to stop your neighbor’s gardener from being picked up?

Same holds for voting Democrat. Do you really want to show up in a heavily Democrat precinct when you’ll stand in line for hours? Face bomb threats from Moscow? Stand and walk in front of trigger-happy armed-to-the-teeth Republicans? Republicans working for ICE, Border Patrol, the National Guard, and other enforcement agencies. Men who volunteered to patrol your blue area during Early Voting and on Election Day?

Meanwhile Elon pulls out the stops yet again, in every way we know he can.

Yeah, so tell me all about that building Blue Wave. Fact is, you can’t build a blue wave if your blue wavers are too scared to walk out their front door.

That's not how it's going to play out. Every one of these incidents is further driving voters toward the Democrats, particularly with Independents.

+1

Even with many voters who like Trump's overall stance on immigration (or at least, what it was over 14 months ago) will not feel that he is doing a good job of implementing it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think “both sides” can learn from stuff here.

Republicans have to reign in these ICE agents. They are out of control. The shooter should be charged with murder.

Protesters need to be more careful. You can’t block traffic, ignore orders to get out of the car, cause chaos and confusion by trying to speed off in your car without consequences. Those consequences shouldn’t be death but she should’ve gotten out of her car and accepted the citation or arrest if it was warranted. She made a bad situation worse. Then the shooter made it 10000x worse.

"Both sides"??? The percentage of Americans who are unprofessional trigger happy ICE agents or protesters with the time and brazenness to interfere with Federal Law Enforcement make up a fraction of a percent of our population. These are not sides. These are two small factions of people who, together, have become a ticking time bomb that was inevitably going to go off.

Reckless and unruly ICE Agents and protesters do not represent large swath of people.

Sorry I shouldn't have said "both sides". What I mean is that like immediately after this, the Republicans aligned with the ICE agent and the Democrats aligned with the victim.

I wish Republicans would come out and say, "hey we have a HUGE problem with what that ICE agent did and he should be charged with murder."

And I wish the Democrats would come out and say, "hey that was a huge tragedy. Let's not let her death be in vain. If you are going to insert yourself in ICE operations, you need to stay calm, have a plan, and understand the stakes / the situation." (Not trying to victim blame but obviously in hindsight we can watch the video and see that she should've made different choices - though her murder is never ever justified).

Agree 100%. I too am surprised more GOP politicians haven't acknowledged the obvious problem with inexperienced trigger happy ICE agents on our streets in the wake of this tragedy. When it's this obvious, they typically see the benefit of being on the right side of history. At least some of them usually see that benefit.

Are you really surprised? I knew when they first went to Mar a Lago in 2020 to bend the knee

They sold their role in history for nothing

They are useless, redundant.

Let's be clear, they need their talking points from Trump before they say anything.

That's GOP lawmaking 101

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think “both sides” can learn from stuff here.

Republicans have to reign in these ICE agents. They are out of control. The shooter should be charged with murder.

Protesters need to be more careful. You can’t block traffic, ignore orders to get out of the car, cause chaos and confusion by trying to speed off in your car without consequences. Those consequences shouldn’t be death but she should’ve gotten out of her car and accepted the citation or arrest if it was warranted. She made a bad situation worse. Then the shooter made it 10000x worse.

Before they approached her car, they were yelling at her to move it and she wouldn’t move. That’s why they approached it to pull her out. It’s terrible she was shot. Plenty of bad decisions made all around.

She was not shot. She was executed to send a message. This is how terrorism works.

It was a smart message to send, proof of concept for the midterms.

Democrats “overperforming” in specials and off-year elections doesn’t matter. The Republicans are keeping their powder dry. The federal investigations of Democrats fundraising hasn’t stated yet. The harassment of Democrat campaign workers hasn’t begun. The intimidation of Democrat voters is wildly premature for an election nine months away.

The shooting yesterday will intimidate protesters to back off and let ICE pick up whoever they wish. Do you really want to get shot to stop your neighbor’s gardener from being picked up?

Same holds for voting Democrat. Do you really want to show up in a heavily Democrat precinct when you’ll stand in line for hours? Face bomb threats from Moscow? Stand and walk in front of trigger-happy armed-to-the-teeth Republicans? Republicans working for ICE, Border Patrol, the National Guard, and other enforcement agencies. Men who volunteered to patrol your blue area during Early Voting and on Election Day?

Meanwhile Elon pulls out the stops yet again, in every way we know he can.

Yeah, so tell me all about that building Blue Wave. Fact is, you can’t build a blue wave if your blue wavers are too scared to walk out their front door.

That's not how it's going to play out. Every one of these incidents is further driving voters toward the Democrats, particularly with Independents.

+1

Even with many voters who like Trump's overall stance on immigration (or at least, what it was over 14 months ago) will not feel that he is doing a good job of implementing it.

They will never call him out on it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think “both sides” can learn from stuff here.

Republicans have to reign in these ICE agents. They are out of control. The shooter should be charged with murder.

Protesters need to be more careful. You can’t block traffic, ignore orders to get out of the car, cause chaos and confusion by trying to speed off in your car without consequences. Those consequences shouldn’t be death but she should’ve gotten out of her car and accepted the citation or arrest if it was warranted. She made a bad situation worse. Then the shooter made it 10000x worse.

"Both sides"??? The percentage of Americans who are unprofessional trigger happy ICE agents or protesters with the time and brazenness to interfere with Federal Law Enforcement make up a fraction of a percent of our population. These are not sides. These are two small factions of people who, together, have become a ticking time bomb that was inevitably going to go off.

Reckless and unruly ICE Agents and protesters do not represent large swath of people.

Sorry I shouldn't have said "both sides". What I mean is that like immediately after this, the Republicans aligned with the ICE agent and the Democrats aligned with the victim.

I wish Republicans would come out and say, "hey we have a HUGE problem with what that ICE agent did and he should be charged with murder."

And I wish the Democrats would come out and say, "hey that was a huge tragedy. Let's not let her death be in vain. If you are going to insert yourself in ICE operations, you need to stay calm, have a plan, and understand the stakes / the situation." (Not trying to victim blame but obviously in hindsight we can watch the video and see that she should've made different choices - though her murder is never ever justified).

Agree 100%. I too am surprised more GOP politicians haven't acknowledged the obvious problem with inexperienced trigger happy ICE agents on our streets in the wake of this tragedy. When it's this obvious, they typically see the benefit of being on the right side of history. At least some of them usually see that benefit.

GOP politicians just rallied in support of the attack on themselves on Jan 6!
They are spineless fascists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not sure why I can’t post a Twitter link, but there is a witness who said “his midriff was on the car” and the driver was “leading the blockade.”

Click on the url and then control + C. Then come here and reply to a post with control + P. Hope that helps.

I’m on my phone so can’t do that right now. Will try when I get home.

I’ve tried to post it by copying the link but keep getting a “connection to the server was lost” message.

https://x.com/the_jefferymead/status/2009272661310845058?s=46
Here is one but it only has the part where she was intentionally blocking traffic

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have yet to see one Republican agree that ICE receive insufficient job training though it is very obvious they do not. Perhaps call your reps to request better training for them? Our government puts them at risk when they do not provide less training for a federal agent than an average police officer.

Republicans like the unrestrained violence.

Yeah, the question isn't whether the training is sufficient as much as what the training is, given what the people in charge say routinely, given there is no use of force policy--and clearly does not include staying on scene for supervisors to carry out initial investigation when someone is shot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think “both sides” can learn from stuff here.

Republicans have to reign in these ICE agents. They are out of control. The shooter should be charged with murder.

Protesters need to be more careful. You can’t block traffic, ignore orders to get out of the car, cause chaos and confusion by trying to speed off in your car without consequences. Those consequences shouldn’t be death but she should’ve gotten out of her car and accepted the citation or arrest if it was warranted. She made a bad situation worse. Then the shooter made it 10000x worse.

Before they approached her car, they were yelling at her to move it and she wouldn’t move. That’s why they approached it to pull her out. It’s terrible she was shot. Plenty of bad decisions made all around.

She was not shot. She was executed to send a message. This is how terrorism works.

It was a smart message to send, proof of concept for the midterms.

Democrats “overperforming” in specials and off-year elections doesn’t matter. The Republicans are keeping their powder dry. The federal investigations of Democrats fundraising hasn’t stated yet. The harassment of Democrat campaign workers hasn’t begun. The intimidation of Democrat voters is wildly premature for an election nine months away.

The shooting yesterday will intimidate protesters to back off and let ICE pick up whoever they wish. Do you really want to get shot to stop your neighbor’s gardener from being picked up?

Same holds for voting Democrat. Do you really want to show up in a heavily Democrat precinct when you’ll stand in line for hours? Face bomb threats from Moscow? Stand and walk in front of trigger-happy armed-to-the-teeth Republicans? Republicans working for ICE, Border Patrol, the National Guard, and other enforcement agencies. Men who volunteered to patrol your blue area during Early Voting and on Election Day?

Meanwhile Elon pulls out the stops yet again, in every way we know he can.

Yeah, so tell me all about that building Blue Wave. Fact is, you can’t build a blue wave if your blue wavers are too scared to walk out their front door.

That's not how it's going to play out. Every one of these incidents is further driving voters toward the Democrats, particularly with Independents.

+1

Even with many voters who like Trump's overall stance on immigration (or at least, what it was over 14 months ago) will not feel that he is doing a good job of implementing it.

The ignorant middle just responds to whatever is shoved in their face. In time of calm, they responded to the elaborate melodramatic lies riling them up. In times of war they respond to what they see directly in front of them in the real world. Truth's ultimate (but often too late) defense against lies is that the truth is eventually too hard to hide.

[Anonymous]

[twitter]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think “both sides” can learn from stuff here.

Republicans have to reign in these ICE agents. They are out of control. The shooter should be charged with murder.

Protesters need to be more careful. You can’t block traffic, ignore orders to get out of the car, cause chaos and confusion by trying to speed off in your car without consequences. Those consequences shouldn’t be death but she should’ve gotten out of her car and accepted the citation or arrest if it was warranted. She made a bad situation worse. Then the shooter made it 10000x worse.

Before they approached her car, they were yelling at her to move it and she wouldn’t move. That’s why they approached it to pull her out. It’s terrible she was shot. Plenty of bad decisions made all around.

She was not shot. She was executed to send a message. This is how terrorism works.

It was a smart message to send, proof of concept for the midterms.

Democrats “overperforming” in specials and off-year elections doesn’t matter. The Republicans are keeping their powder dry. The federal investigations of Democrats fundraising hasn’t stated yet. The harassment of Democrat campaign workers hasn’t begun. The intimidation of Democrat voters is wildly premature for an election nine months away.

The shooting yesterday will intimidate protesters to back off and let ICE pick up whoever they wish. Do you really want to get shot to stop your neighbor’s gardener from being picked up?

Same holds for voting Democrat. Do you really want to show up in a heavily Democrat precinct when you’ll stand in line for hours? Face bomb threats from Moscow? Stand and walk in front of trigger-happy armed-to-the-teeth Republicans? Republicans working for ICE, Border Patrol, the National Guard, and other enforcement agencies. Men who volunteered to patrol your blue area during Early Voting and on Election Day?

Meanwhile Elon pulls out the stops yet again, in every way we know he can.

Yeah, so tell me all about that building Blue Wave. Fact is, you can’t build a blue wave if your blue wavers are too scared to walk out their front door.

That's not how it's going to play out. Every one of these incidents is further driving voters toward the Democrats, particularly with Independents.

+1

Even with many voters who like Trump's overall stance on immigration (or at least, what it was over 14 months ago) will not feel that he is doing a good job of implementing it.

They will never call him out on it

They will at the ballot box. Or they just won’t go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think “both sides” can learn from stuff here.

Republicans have to reign in these ICE agents. They are out of control. The shooter should be charged with murder.

Protesters need to be more careful. You can’t block traffic, ignore orders to get out of the car, cause chaos and confusion by trying to speed off in your car without consequences. Those consequences shouldn’t be death but she should’ve gotten out of her car and accepted the citation or arrest if it was warranted. She made a bad situation worse. Then the shooter made it 10000x worse.

"Both sides"??? The percentage of Americans who are unprofessional trigger happy ICE agents or protesters with the time and brazenness to interfere with Federal Law Enforcement make up a fraction of a percent of our population. These are not sides. These are two small factions of people who, together, have become a ticking time bomb that was inevitably going to go off.

Reckless and unruly ICE Agents and protesters do not represent large swath of people.

Sorry I shouldn't have said "both sides". What I mean is that like immediately after this, the Republicans aligned with the ICE agent and the Democrats aligned with the victim.

I wish Republicans would come out and say, "hey we have a HUGE problem with what that ICE agent did and he should be charged with murder."

And I wish the Democrats would come out and say, "hey that was a huge tragedy. Let's not let her death be in vain. If you are going to insert yourself in ICE operations, you need to stay calm, have a plan, and understand the stakes / the situation." (Not trying to victim blame but obviously in hindsight we can watch the video and see that she should've made different choices - though her murder is never ever justified).

She made perfectly reasonable choices.

We’re dealing with unreasonable people.

Fascist lunatics who think masked goons have the right to publicly execute American citizens for not “following orders” the goons have zero right to give.

A perfectly reasonable choice is not placing yourself at the mercy of split second decision-making by unhinged and inexperienced trigger happy LEOs. That is personal endangerment. I would beg and plead for my children and grandchildren not to make such choices and anyone else with any common sense would do the same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think “both sides” can learn from stuff here.

Republicans have to reign in these ICE agents. They are out of control. The shooter should be charged with murder.

Protesters need to be more careful. You can’t block traffic, ignore orders to get out of the car, cause chaos and confusion by trying to speed off in your car without consequences. Those consequences shouldn’t be death but she should’ve gotten out of her car and accepted the citation or arrest if it was warranted. She made a bad situation worse. Then the shooter made it 10000x worse.

Before they approached her car, they were yelling at her to move it and she wouldn’t move. That’s why they approached it to pull her out. It’s terrible she was shot. Plenty of bad decisions made all around.

She was not shot. She was executed to send a message. This is how terrorism works.

It was a smart message to send, proof of concept for the midterms.

Democrats “overperforming” in specials and off-year elections doesn’t matter. The Republicans are keeping their powder dry. The federal investigations of Democrats fundraising hasn’t stated yet. The harassment of Democrat campaign workers hasn’t begun. The intimidation of Democrat voters is wildly premature for an election nine months away.

The shooting yesterday will intimidate protesters to back off and let ICE pick up whoever they wish. Do you really want to get shot to stop your neighbor’s gardener from being picked up?

Same holds for voting Democrat. Do you really want to show up in a heavily Democrat precinct when you’ll stand in line for hours? Face bomb threats from Moscow? Stand and walk in front of trigger-happy armed-to-the-teeth Republicans? Republicans working for ICE, Border Patrol, the National Guard, and other enforcement agencies. Men who volunteered to patrol your blue area during Early Voting and on Election Day?

Meanwhile Elon pulls out the stops yet again, in every way we know he can.

Yeah, so tell me all about that building Blue Wave. Fact is, you can’t build a blue wave if your blue wavers are too scared to walk out their front door.

That's not how it's going to play out. Every one of these incidents is further driving voters toward the Democrats, particularly with Independents.

+1

Even with many voters who like Trump's overall stance on immigration (or at least, what it was over 14 months ago) will not feel that he is doing a good job of implementing it.

The ignorant middle just responds to whatever is shoved in their face. In time of calm, they responded to the elaborate melodramatic lies riling them up. In times of war they respond to what they see directly in front of them in the real world. Truth's ultimate (but often too late) defense against lies is that the truth is eventually too hard to hide.

I’d rather be on the side of the connected liars with the guns, against the unarmed and unimportant truth tellers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think “both sides” can learn from stuff here.

Republicans have to reign in these ICE agents. They are out of control. The shooter should be charged with murder.

Protesters need to be more careful. You can’t block traffic, ignore orders to get out of the car, cause chaos and confusion by trying to speed off in your car without consequences. Those consequences shouldn’t be death but she should’ve gotten out of her car and accepted the citation or arrest if it was warranted. She made a bad situation worse. Then the shooter made it 10000x worse.

Before they approached her car, they were yelling at her to move it and she wouldn’t move. That’s why they approached it to pull her out. It’s terrible she was shot. Plenty of bad decisions made all around.

She was not shot. She was executed to send a message. This is how terrorism works.

What do you think they would have done if they had managed to pull her out?
A: Tut-tutted, asked to see her driver's license and then sent her on her way with a cheery wave?
B: Threw her to the ground and all piled on to restrain her with their oh-so manly bodies?

So murder her? That is your argument.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think “both sides” can learn from stuff here.

Republicans have to reign in these ICE agents. They are out of control. The shooter should be charged with murder.

Protesters need to be more careful. You can’t block traffic, ignore orders to get out of the car, cause chaos and confusion by trying to speed off in your car without consequences. Those consequences shouldn’t be death but she should’ve gotten out of her car and accepted the citation or arrest if it was warranted. She made a bad situation worse. Then the shooter made it 10000x worse.

"Both sides"??? The percentage of Americans who are unprofessional trigger happy ICE agents or protesters with the time and brazenness to interfere with Federal Law Enforcement make up a fraction of a percent of our population. These are not sides. These are two small factions of people who, together, have become a ticking time bomb that was inevitably going to go off.

Reckless and unruly ICE Agents and protesters do not represent large swath of people.

Sorry I shouldn't have said "both sides". What I mean is that like immediately after this, the Republicans aligned with the ICE agent and the Democrats aligned with the victim.

I wish Republicans would come out and say, "hey we have a HUGE problem with what that ICE agent did and he should be charged with murder."

And I wish the Democrats would come out and say, "hey that was a huge tragedy. Let's not let her death be in vain. If you are going to insert yourself in ICE operations, you need to stay calm, have a plan, and understand the stakes / the situation." (Not trying to victim blame but obviously in hindsight we can watch the video and see that she should've made different choices - though her murder is never ever justified).

She made perfectly reasonable choices.

We’re dealing with unreasonable people.

Fascist lunatics who think masked goons have the right to publicly execute American citizens for not “following orders” the goons have zero right to give.

A perfectly reasonable choice is not placing yourself at the mercy of split second decision-making by unhinged and inexperienced trigger happy LEOs. That is personal endangerment. I would beg and plead for my children and grandchildren not to make such choices and anyone else with any common sense would do the same.

Im sure the founding fathers thought so too

And these are not LEO

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think “both sides” can learn from stuff here.

Republicans have to reign in these ICE agents. They are out of control. The shooter should be charged with murder.

Protesters need to be more careful. You can’t block traffic, ignore orders to get out of the car, cause chaos and confusion by trying to speed off in your car without consequences. Those consequences shouldn’t be death but she should’ve gotten out of her car and accepted the citation or arrest if it was warranted. She made a bad situation worse. Then the shooter made it 10000x worse.

Before they approached her car, they were yelling at her to move it and she wouldn’t move. That’s why they approached it to pull her out. It’s terrible she was shot. Plenty of bad decisions made all around.

She was not shot. She was executed to send a message. This is how terrorism works.

It was a smart message to send, proof of concept for the midterms.

Democrats “overperforming” in specials and off-year elections doesn’t matter. The Republicans are keeping their powder dry. The federal investigations of Democrats fundraising hasn’t stated yet. The harassment of Democrat campaign workers hasn’t begun. The intimidation of Democrat voters is wildly premature for an election nine months away.

The shooting yesterday will intimidate protesters to back off and let ICE pick up whoever they wish. Do you really want to get shot to stop your neighbor’s gardener from being picked up?

Same holds for voting Democrat. Do you really want to show up in a heavily Democrat precinct when you’ll stand in line for hours? Face bomb threats from Moscow? Stand and walk in front of trigger-happy armed-to-the-teeth Republicans? Republicans working for ICE, Border Patrol, the National Guard, and other enforcement agencies. Men who volunteered to patrol your blue area during Early Voting and on Election Day?

Meanwhile Elon pulls out the stops yet again, in every way we know he can.

Yeah, so tell me all about that building Blue Wave. Fact is, you can’t build a blue wave if your blue wavers are too scared to walk out their front door.

That's not how it's going to play out. Every one of these incidents is further driving voters toward the Democrats, particularly with Independents.

+1

Even with many voters who like Trump's overall stance on immigration (or at least, what it was over 14 months ago) will not feel that he is doing a good job of implementing it.

The ignorant middle just responds to whatever is shoved in their face. In time of calm, they responded to the elaborate melodramatic lies riling them up. In times of war they respond to what they see directly in front of them in the real world. Truth's ultimate (but often too late) defense against lies is that the truth is eventually too hard to hide.

I’d rather be on the side of the connected liars with the guns, against the unarmed and unimportant truth tellers.

Finally an honest MAGA

[Anonymous]

Whilst the BBC coverage of the incident at hand has been continuous, this is the first comprehensive video-analysis of which I’m aware.

Please be aware: this video contains distressing scenes.

https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/ceqzj9932wjo