Boundary Review Meetings

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Anonymous wrote:If anyone is watching the phase 2 meeting at Robinson, they had three split feeders...surprise, surprise they kept all three as split feeders in the pyramid.


Ooh.

Dish more please


Right now a parent is railing against adding Rolling Valley to WSHS

...Oh, and add a 4th spilt feeder they did not fix (so they fixed zero split feeders). They did close one attendance island.


Interesting.


The Thru consultant looked annoyed at her and basically blew her off, cause she spitballed a number of kids that could go to WSHS from those 200 townhomes. The consultant didn't answer why they added that neighborhood to WSHS.

It was priority 7 from Region 6.


So they ignored priorities 1-6 and went with this one? Wow, okay.

No. I’m pretty sure they incorporated those too.


This was recommendation number 6: "Adjust boundaries to increase enrollment at Lewis to address overcrowding. Community members pointed out that Lewis is
underutilized and suggested that boundaries be adjusted to better utilize Lewis and increase socioeconomic diversity."

Apologies, they seemed to have incorporated all of the specific changes. If Lewis had listed specific neighborhoods they wanted, THRU probably would have given them to them.


Lewis families and anyone else from the lower SES schools seemingly missed the boat. If COVID hadn’t happened, the boundary changes would have started and then gone through in 2020-2021, when the political climate was totally different. There would have 100% been equity moves at that point.


Ok sure.
But what is being done, they seem to entirely have ignored Lewis. It's underenrolled while others are over capacity. They just....pretended it doesn't exist?


Lewis doesn’t have boundary issues. Lewis has progamming issues. Drop IB and do full AP and attendance will come back.
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Anonymous wrote:They already have a plan. This is all for show.


I really don't think they can get away with doing anything drastically different than what’s been put out now. I’m not defending them, but they have had the opportunity to put blame on Thru.

The new western high school could shift things if you are regionally close to it with the next iteration and it’s definitely frustrating that’s coming at the 11th hour.
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Anonymous wrote:Looking at the western boundaries - it's pretty clear to me that they are making some moves in anticipation of the new (KAA) high school, namely:

1. Moving some from Centreville to Westfield so they can shift Floris/Coates/McNair to KAA

2. Moving some from Fairfax to Chantilly so they can move Oak Hill and maybe some of Lees Corner to KAA

3. Moving some from Fairfax to Oakton so they can move Crossfield to KAA

I'm not sure what the end goal is in moving Emerald Chase to South Lakes unless it's so that they can move Floris from South Lakes to KAA. It's silly though because Emerald Chase is very close to KAA.


I think they’ll move Oak Hill to KAA and including Emerald Chase in Oak Hill, they’ll go to KAA. Surprised they didn’t put Emerald Chase at Chantilly so it looked like a bigger relief for Chantilly when oak Hill gets moved there.


I actually think Emerald Chase goes to KAA while the rest of Oak Hill will not. Thru clearly separates Emerald Chase from the rest of Oak Hill (at least for MS and HS). The intention is obvious to me. This also rules out Lees Corner to KAA.

Crossfield is likely going to KAA as McDaniel keeps brining up the long bus ride.

So my guess is Floris, Crossfield, and Emerad Chase will most likely go to KAA. McNair and Cortes probably too unless one of them gets moved to Herndon. Maybe Fox Mill as well or they will get moved to Hughes and then South Lakes to avoid the split feeder issue at Carson.



SB members have repeatedly brought up overcrowding at Chantilly and the purchase of KAA. I think all of Oak Hill will go to KAA. None of the other schools you mentioned would relieve Chantilly.


Yeah of all the elementary schools in play, Oak Hill is the only that can provide capacity relief at Chantilly, so I think the whole school will move to KAA.
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Wouldn’t put it past them to move Oak Hill to Westfield to backfill all of what they lose from Floris/Coates/Mcnair/etc.
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Anonymous wrote:Wouldn’t put it past them to move Oak Hill to Westfield to backfill all of what they lose from Floris/Coates/Mcnair/etc.


True hut I suspect they will move kids from Centreville to do that. Scenario 4 has 100ish kids moving from Centreville to Westfield and it still leaves Centreville at 104%
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Anonymous wrote:Wouldn’t put it past them to move Oak Hill to Westfield to backfill all of what they lose from Floris/Coates/Mcnair/etc.


That makes absolutely no sense. Talk about an island. They would have to drive through KAA boundary or Chantilly boundary to get to Westfield.
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Anonymous wrote:Wouldn’t put it past them to move Oak Hill to Westfield to backfill all of what they lose from Floris/Coates/Mcnair/etc.


True hut I suspect they will move kids from Centreville to do that. Scenario 4 has 100ish kids moving from Centreville to Westfield and it still leaves Centreville at 104%


And, there is still new construction near Westfield.
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Anonymous wrote:How are they justifying adding another neighborhood to WSHS and moving a small single family neighborhood to Sangster ? I thought the whole point was to eliminate overcrowding.


Numbers changed and it’s no longer projected to be overcrowded


Like magically changed? Changed how?


The most recent numbers posted. They were on here somewhere. Reid also came out and said county wide numbers are down (and blamed ICE)


Wshs was not affected by ICE.


Do you need your hand held and get led to the numbers showing Keene Mill HVES, etc all projecting less?


Those are from covid losses and feds moving due to the riff.

It has nothing whatsoever to do with ICE.

WSHS has one of the lowest esol populations in the entire county.


And by covid losses, specifically the covid baby bust.

It has nothing to do with ice. What a foolish thing to suggest


Yeah most of the schools are losing enrollment across the board. Reid was talking out of her ass about the ICE stuff. WSHS won’t see a big drop as quickly as some of the other schools due to a large class of current 7th graders at Irving. But the demographics still don’t favor huge additional growth across the county. Some areas will see shrinkage in school age populations, some will see stagnation, a few will see growth especially if they have room for more development.


Not ICE, but I imagine that closing the border had a big impact on growth.


No.

Do you know anything about the demographics of WSHS?

The border has zero impsct on the population of WSHS.
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Anonymous wrote:Wouldn’t put it past them to move Oak Hill to Westfield to backfill all of what they lose from Floris/Coates/Mcnair/etc.


That makes absolutely no sense. Talk about an island. They would have to drive through KAA boundary or Chantilly boundary to get to Westfield.


It’s exactly what Floris/Coates/Mcnair have to do today to get to Westfield. Drive south past/through Oak Hill and FF areas…
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Anonymous wrote:If anyone is watching the phase 2 meeting at Robinson, they had three split feeders...surprise, surprise they kept all three as split feeders in the pyramid.


Ooh.

Dish more please


Right now a parent is railing against adding Rolling Valley to WSHS

...Oh, and add a 4th spilt feeder they did not fix (so they fixed zero split feeders). They did close one attendance island.


Interesting.


The Thru consultant looked annoyed at her and basically blew her off, cause she spitballed a number of kids that could go to WSHS from those 200 townhomes. The consultant didn't answer why they added that neighborhood to WSHS.

It was priority 7 from Region 6.


So they ignored priorities 1-6 and went with this one? Wow, okay.

No. I’m pretty sure they incorporated those too.


This was recommendation number 6: "Adjust boundaries to increase enrollment at Lewis to address overcrowding. Community members pointed out that Lewis is
underutilized and suggested that boundaries be adjusted to better utilize Lewis and increase socioeconomic diversity."

Apologies, they seemed to have incorporated all of the specific changes. If Lewis had listed specific neighborhoods they wanted, THRU probably would have given them to them.


Lewis families and anyone else from the lower SES schools seemingly missed the boat. If COVID hadn’t happened, the boundary changes would have started and then gone through in 2020-2021, when the political climate was totally different. There would have 100% been equity moves at that point.


Ok sure.
But what is being done, they seem to entirely have ignored Lewis. It's underenrolled while others are over capacity. They just....pretended it doesn't exist?


Lewis doesn’t have boundary issues. Lewis has progamming issues. Drop IB and do full AP and attendance will come back.


It is shocking though that FCPS moved 200 upper middle class Rolling Valley homes out of Lewis to WSHS.
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Anonymous wrote:If anyone is watching the phase 2 meeting at Robinson, they had three split feeders...surprise, surprise they kept all three as split feeders in the pyramid.


Ooh.

Dish more please


Right now a parent is railing against adding Rolling Valley to WSHS

...Oh, and add a 4th spilt feeder they did not fix (so they fixed zero split feeders). They did close one attendance island.


Interesting.


The Thru consultant looked annoyed at her and basically blew her off, cause she spitballed a number of kids that could go to WSHS from those 200 townhomes. The consultant didn't answer why they added that neighborhood to WSHS.

It was priority 7 from Region 6.


So they ignored priorities 1-6 and went with this one? Wow, okay.

No. I’m pretty sure they incorporated those too.


This was recommendation number 6: "Adjust boundaries to increase enrollment at Lewis to address overcrowding. Community members pointed out that Lewis is
underutilized and suggested that boundaries be adjusted to better utilize Lewis and increase socioeconomic diversity."

Apologies, they seemed to have incorporated all of the specific changes. If Lewis had listed specific neighborhoods they wanted, THRU probably would have given them to them.


Lewis families and anyone else from the lower SES schools seemingly missed the boat. If COVID hadn’t happened, the boundary changes would have started and then gone through in 2020-2021, when the political climate was totally different. There would have 100% been equity moves at that point.


Ok sure.
But what is being done, they seem to entirely have ignored Lewis. It's underenrolled while others are over capacity. They just....pretended it doesn't exist?


Lewis doesn’t have boundary issues. Lewis has progamming issues. Drop IB and do full AP and attendance will come back.


It is shocking though that FCPS moved 200 upper middle class Rolling Valley jomes out of Lewis to WSHS.



Unbelievable. They are basically stomping on a struggling school when it’s already down.
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Anonymous wrote:If anyone is watching the phase 2 meeting at Robinson, they had three split feeders...surprise, surprise they kept all three as split feeders in the pyramid.


Ooh.

Dish more please


Right now a parent is railing against adding Rolling Valley to WSHS

...Oh, and add a 4th spilt feeder they did not fix (so they fixed zero split feeders). They did close one attendance island.


Interesting.


The Thru consultant looked annoyed at her and basically blew her off, cause she spitballed a number of kids that could go to WSHS from those 200 townhomes. The consultant didn't answer why they added that neighborhood to WSHS.

It was priority 7 from Region 6.


So they ignored priorities 1-6 and went with this one? Wow, okay.

No. I’m pretty sure they incorporated those too.


This was recommendation number 6: "Adjust boundaries to increase enrollment at Lewis to address overcrowding. Community members pointed out that Lewis is
underutilized and suggested that boundaries be adjusted to better utilize Lewis and increase socioeconomic diversity."

Apologies, they seemed to have incorporated all of the specific changes. If Lewis had listed specific neighborhoods they wanted, THRU probably would have given them to them.


Lewis families and anyone else from the lower SES schools seemingly missed the boat. If COVID hadn’t happened, the boundary changes would have started and then gone through in 2020-2021, when the political climate was totally different. There would have 100% been equity moves at that point.


Ok sure.
But what is being done, they seem to entirely have ignored Lewis. It's underenrolled while others are over capacity. They just....pretended it doesn't exist?


Lewis doesn’t have boundary issues. Lewis has progamming issues. Drop IB and do full AP and attendance will come back.


It is shocking though that FCPS moved 200 upper middle class Rolling Valley homes out of Lewis to WSHS.


Stop spreading these lies. There are possibly 100 townhomes in that small area. And that’s generous.
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Why bring new areas to WSHS, better keep areas which are already there to minimize disruption, if overcrowding is suddenly not an issue. How does this make any sense?
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Anonymous wrote:If anyone is watching the phase 2 meeting at Robinson, they had three split feeders...surprise, surprise they kept all three as split feeders in the pyramid.


Ooh.

Dish more please


Right now a parent is railing against adding Rolling Valley to WSHS

...Oh, and add a 4th spilt feeder they did not fix (so they fixed zero split feeders). They did close one attendance island.


Interesting.


The Thru consultant looked annoyed at her and basically blew her off, cause she spitballed a number of kids that could go to WSHS from those 200 townhomes. The consultant didn't answer why they added that neighborhood to WSHS.

It was priority 7 from Region 6.


So they ignored priorities 1-6 and went with this one? Wow, okay.

No. I’m pretty sure they incorporated those too.


This was recommendation number 6: "Adjust boundaries to increase enrollment at Lewis to address overcrowding. Community members pointed out that Lewis is
underutilized and suggested that boundaries be adjusted to better utilize Lewis and increase socioeconomic diversity."

Apologies, they seemed to have incorporated all of the specific changes. If Lewis had listed specific neighborhoods they wanted, THRU probably would have given them to them.


Lewis families and anyone else from the lower SES schools seemingly missed the boat. If COVID hadn’t happened, the boundary changes would have started and then gone through in 2020-2021, when the political climate was totally different. There would have 100% been equity moves at that point.


Ok sure.
But what is being done, they seem to entirely have ignored Lewis. It's underenrolled while others are over capacity. They just....pretended it doesn't exist?


Lewis doesn’t have boundary issues. Lewis has progamming issues. Drop IB and do full AP and attendance will come back.


It is shocking though that FCPS moved 200 upper middle class Rolling Valley jomes out of Lewis to WSHS.



Unbelievable. They are basically stomping on a struggling school when it’s already down.


It’s not down it’s dead and time for a change.
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Anonymous wrote:Why bring new areas to WSHS, better keep areas which are already there to minimize disruption, if overcrowding is suddenly not an issue. How does this make any sense?


WSHS LOST over 250 homes. Stop this nonsense you are trying. Same poster. Over and over again talking to yourself.
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