Palisades Fire - Los Angeles

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Anonymous wrote:Californians are already going after other Californians. No need to make up drama about what people in TX or FL thik. People looking for housing are reporting price gouging and bidding wars over long term rentals. Very low inventory, which is typical. People are wasting no time to profiting off the tragedy of others. Right in California.

Rent is supply and demand.
The cost of new rentals is going to go up.
Most of the reports about price gouging is for luxury homes.
If you don’t need to live in one then you will be fine.

No, landlords and the realtors are quadrupling rent, accepting offers to pay a full year in advance, and soaking bidding wars. The California AG is going to nail them. The realtors association needs to send out an alert to not break the CA price gouging law or risk losing your license.

This goes well beyond red vs blue arguments people are having here. It won't be "Us vs them" like some are suggesting it's "every man for himself" There will be a lot of anger in the coming months.

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Anonymous wrote:CA will go RED going forward. It's just time and necessary. Either that, or just let it go...

Californian here. I’ve thought that for awhile (there is a lot of frustration with Democrats here), but the deep anger here at the Republicans who are attacking people who have lost their homes may have interrupted that process. There is a lot of media coverage of those folks and people here are furious, especially because no California politicians tried to target the victims of hurricanes in a similar way.

What people are doing this though? I've only seen a couple examples.

There has been a few links posted in this thread. And it may only be a few Republicans attacking the victims of the fires but links about what they are saying and doing are flying around here, even from people who don’t like Democrats. The behavior is so extreme and cruel that it’s getting a lot of airplay.

There are also rumors claiming that red state folks were cheering for the fires during moments of silence at football games. Californians may be a lot of things, but there are no stories of them cheering for hurricanes during moments of silence for hurricane victims. I’m not even sure that it’s true that red state football fans were cheering during moments of silence but I’ve now seen the claim made a couple of places so the rumors are flying.

Prior to this, I thought that California would go red, because people are so deeply frustrated with the progressive left, but the anger at Republicans who are victim-blaming (while not victim-blaming hurricane victims) is palpable and I am not so sure now.

I just really resent this type of talk as I am in a red state and don't know a single person feeling remotely happy about fires. I am in a couple very large facebook groups for weather/hurricane info, and people feel absolutely terrible and have compassion and want to help. There is a lot of incentive to polarize and divide rather than look at all the people supporting others.

I live in NC, near Asheville, and just went through the Helene devastation. We actually lost our home. After the storm, for a week or more, there was no decent cell service in our region, and almost no one had wifi wither. At least in our neighborhood, people were so banded together during that time, helping each other all day every day. I think it was that way through much of the region. As soon as cell service was back, all the disinformation and politicization started up, and the level of camaraderie was immediately impacted - the tone immediately changed - at a micro level, on the ground, it went from "we're all in this together" to "did you hear that Trump/Biden/FEMA said _________" and the party was over. It was SO eye opening, and sad, and made it feel really apparent how years ago individuals from different parties could work together toward common goals, and how much now we're inundated and affected by what we hear on our partisan news stations and, worse, social media. On a larger scale, of course people are still helping people here, but at the micro level, there was this moment of utopian community action, and it was dispelled instantly by cell service the moment it came back.

SOCIAL MEDIA IS TOXIC!

People - seriously listen to what PP is saying: social media is being used to DIVIDE YOU.

You are being manipulated.

It’s not social media. It’s the Republican politicians spreading lies that are divisive on purpose.

So you're going to just fall for whoever is manipulating you and their lies? You can decide you refuse to get manipulated.

DP. There are multiple bad actors.

Media/news organizations are certainly manipulating a lot of the narratives, motivated by revenue.

Social media provides the platform for unfiltered/unfact checked crap to flood people’s minds.

But Republicans are absolutely spreading lies. They whip up faux “issues” to drive outrage. It’s their entire ethos. They blatantly lie all of the time.

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Anonymous wrote:CA will go RED going forward. It's just time and necessary. Either that, or just let it go...

Californian here. I’ve thought that for awhile (there is a lot of frustration with Democrats here), but the deep anger here at the Republicans who are attacking people who have lost their homes may have interrupted that process. There is a lot of media coverage of those folks and people here are furious, especially because no California politicians tried to target the victims of hurricanes in a similar way.

What people are doing this though? I've only seen a couple examples.

There has been a few links posted in this thread. And it may only be a few Republicans attacking the victims of the fires but links about what they are saying and doing are flying around here, even from people who don’t like Democrats. The behavior is so extreme and cruel that it’s getting a lot of airplay.

There are also rumors claiming that red state folks were cheering for the fires during moments of silence at football games. Californians may be a lot of things, but there are no stories of them cheering for hurricanes during moments of silence for hurricane victims. I’m not even sure that it’s true that red state football fans were cheering during moments of silence but I’ve now seen the claim made a couple of places so the rumors are flying.

Prior to this, I thought that California would go red, because people are so deeply frustrated with the progressive left, but the anger at Republicans who are victim-blaming (while not victim-blaming hurricane victims) is palpable and I am not so sure now.

I just really resent this type of talk as I am in a red state and don't know a single person feeling remotely happy about fires. I am in a couple very large facebook groups for weather/hurricane info, and people feel absolutely terrible and have compassion and want to help. There is a lot of incentive to polarize and divide rather than look at all the people supporting others.

I live in NC, near Asheville, and just went through the Helene devastation. We actually lost our home. After the storm, for a week or more, there was no decent cell service in our region, and almost no one had wifi wither. At least in our neighborhood, people were so banded together during that time, helping each other all day every day. I think it was that way through much of the region. As soon as cell service was back, all the disinformation and politicization started up, and the level of camaraderie was immediately impacted - the tone immediately changed - at a micro level, on the ground, it went from "we're all in this together" to "did you hear that Trump/Biden/FEMA said _________" and the party was over. It was SO eye opening, and sad, and made it feel really apparent how years ago individuals from different parties could work together toward common goals, and how much now we're inundated and affected by what we hear on our partisan news stations and, worse, social media. On a larger scale, of course people are still helping people here, but at the micro level, there was this moment of utopian community action, and it was dispelled instantly by cell service the moment it came back.

SOCIAL MEDIA IS TOXIC!

People - seriously listen to what PP is saying: social media is being used to DIVIDE YOU.

You are being manipulated.

It’s not social media. It’s the Republican politicians spreading lies that are divisive on purpose.

So you're going to just fall for whoever is manipulating you and their lies? You can decide you refuse to get manipulated.

DP. There are multiple bad actors.

Media/news organizations are certainly manipulating a lot of the narratives, motivated by revenue.

Social media provides the platform for unfiltered/unfact checked crap to flood people’s minds.

But Republicans are absolutely spreading lies. They whip up faux “issues” to drive outrage. It’s their entire ethos. They blatantly lie all of the time.

You should read the last year's comments made by Democrats (leaders of the party, White House spokespersons, and here on DCUM) telling us how "mentally sharp" Biden was, despite his obvious decline. I say that as someone who voted for Harris.

[Anonymous]

Call your reps if they're in the GOP. They're talking about having conditions on disaster relief. This ghoulish behavior is a new low.

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Anonymous wrote:CA will go RED going forward. It's just time and necessary. Either that, or just let it go...

Californian here. I’ve thought that for awhile (there is a lot of frustration with Democrats here), but the deep anger here at the Republicans who are attacking people who have lost their homes may have interrupted that process. There is a lot of media coverage of those folks and people here are furious, especially because no California politicians tried to target the victims of hurricanes in a similar way.

What people are doing this though? I've only seen a couple examples.

There has been a few links posted in this thread. And it may only be a few Republicans attacking the victims of the fires but links about what they are saying and doing are flying around here, even from people who don’t like Democrats. The behavior is so extreme and cruel that it’s getting a lot of airplay.

There are also rumors claiming that red state folks were cheering for the fires during moments of silence at football games. Californians may be a lot of things, but there are no stories of them cheering for hurricanes during moments of silence for hurricane victims. I’m not even sure that it’s true that red state football fans were cheering during moments of silence but I’ve now seen the claim made a couple of places so the rumors are flying.

Prior to this, I thought that California would go red, because people are so deeply frustrated with the progressive left, but the anger at Republicans who are victim-blaming (while not victim-blaming hurricane victims) is palpable and I am not so sure now.

I just really resent this type of talk as I am in a red state and don't know a single person feeling remotely happy about fires. I am in a couple very large facebook groups for weather/hurricane info, and people feel absolutely terrible and have compassion and want to help. There is a lot of incentive to polarize and divide rather than look at all the people supporting others.

I live in NC, near Asheville, and just went through the Helene devastation. We actually lost our home. After the storm, for a week or more, there was no decent cell service in our region, and almost no one had wifi wither. At least in our neighborhood, people were so banded together during that time, helping each other all day every day. I think it was that way through much of the region. As soon as cell service was back, all the disinformation and politicization started up, and the level of camaraderie was immediately impacted - the tone immediately changed - at a micro level, on the ground, it went from "we're all in this together" to "did you hear that Trump/Biden/FEMA said _________" and the party was over. It was SO eye opening, and sad, and made it feel really apparent how years ago individuals from different parties could work together toward common goals, and how much now we're inundated and affected by what we hear on our partisan news stations and, worse, social media. On a larger scale, of course people are still helping people here, but at the micro level, there was this moment of utopian community action, and it was dispelled instantly by cell service the moment it came back.

SOCIAL MEDIA IS TOXIC!

People - seriously listen to what PP is saying: social media is being used to DIVIDE YOU.

You are being manipulated.

It’s not social media. It’s the Republican politicians spreading lies that are divisive on purpose.

So you're going to just fall for whoever is manipulating you and their lies? You can decide you refuse to get manipulated.

DP. There are multiple bad actors.

Media/news organizations are certainly manipulating a lot of the narratives, motivated by revenue.

Social media provides the platform for unfiltered/unfact checked crap to flood people’s minds.

But Republicans are absolutely spreading lies. They whip up faux “issues” to drive outrage. It’s their entire ethos. They blatantly lie all of the time.

You should read the last year's comments made by Democrats (leaders of the party, White House spokespersons, and here on DCUM) telling us how "mentally sharp" Biden was, despite his obvious decline. I say that as someone who voted for Harris.

I never said Democrats don’t sometimes lie or twist the truth. But it goes all of the way to the core of Republicans.

How many Republicans voters have reflected on Trump’s lies in the way that you did with D leaders? Lying is clearly ok for them.

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Anonymous wrote:CA will go RED going forward. It's just time and necessary. Either that, or just let it go...

Californian here. I’ve thought that for awhile (there is a lot of frustration with Democrats here), but the deep anger here at the Republicans who are attacking people who have lost their homes may have interrupted that process. There is a lot of media coverage of those folks and people here are furious, especially because no California politicians tried to target the victims of hurricanes in a similar way.

What people are doing this though? I've only seen a couple examples.

There has been a few links posted in this thread. And it may only be a few Republicans attacking the victims of the fires but links about what they are saying and doing are flying around here, even from people who don’t like Democrats. The behavior is so extreme and cruel that it’s getting a lot of airplay.

There are also rumors claiming that red state folks were cheering for the fires during moments of silence at football games. Californians may be a lot of things, but there are no stories of them cheering for hurricanes during moments of silence for hurricane victims. I’m not even sure that it’s true that red state football fans were cheering during moments of silence but I’ve now seen the claim made a couple of places so the rumors are flying.

Prior to this, I thought that California would go red, because people are so deeply frustrated with the progressive left, but the anger at Republicans who are victim-blaming (while not victim-blaming hurricane victims) is palpable and I am not so sure now.

I just really resent this type of talk as I am in a red state and don't know a single person feeling remotely happy about fires. I am in a couple very large facebook groups for weather/hurricane info, and people feel absolutely terrible and have compassion and want to help. There is a lot of incentive to polarize and divide rather than look at all the people supporting others.

I live in NC, near Asheville, and just went through the Helene devastation. We actually lost our home. After the storm, for a week or more, there was no decent cell service in our region, and almost no one had wifi wither. At least in our neighborhood, people were so banded together during that time, helping each other all day every day. I think it was that way through much of the region. As soon as cell service was back, all the disinformation and politicization started up, and the level of camaraderie was immediately impacted - the tone immediately changed - at a micro level, on the ground, it went from "we're all in this together" to "did you hear that Trump/Biden/FEMA said _________" and the party was over. It was SO eye opening, and sad, and made it feel really apparent how years ago individuals from different parties could work together toward common goals, and how much now we're inundated and affected by what we hear on our partisan news stations and, worse, social media. On a larger scale, of course people are still helping people here, but at the micro level, there was this moment of utopian community action, and it was dispelled instantly by cell service the moment it came back.

SOCIAL MEDIA IS TOXIC!

People - seriously listen to what PP is saying: social media is being used to DIVIDE YOU.

You are being manipulated.

It’s not social media. It’s the Republican politicians spreading lies that are divisive on purpose.

So you're going to just fall for whoever is manipulating you and their lies? You can decide you refuse to get manipulated.

Well their tweets USED to be fact checked. In the good ol days.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Call your reps if they're in the GOP. They're talking about having conditions on disaster relief. This ghoulish behavior is a new low.

I honestly can’t fault them for trying to make sure that the next fire doesn’t burn down entire communities in the future. This isn’t their first rodeo but there was so much mismanagement this time and nobody seems to be taking responsibility for it. Without responsibility, we can’t ensure that it will never happen again. Nobody should need to watch their home burn down on tv with dry fire hydrants and taps and not a single firefighter in sight.

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Anonymous wrote:CA will go RED going forward. It's just time and necessary. Either that, or just let it go...

Californian here. I’ve thought that for awhile (there is a lot of frustration with Democrats here), but the deep anger here at the Republicans who are attacking people who have lost their homes may have interrupted that process. There is a lot of media coverage of those folks and people here are furious, especially because no California politicians tried to target the victims of hurricanes in a similar way.

What people are doing this though? I've only seen a couple examples.

There has been a few links posted in this thread. And it may only be a few Republicans attacking the victims of the fires but links about what they are saying and doing are flying around here, even from people who don’t like Democrats. The behavior is so extreme and cruel that it’s getting a lot of airplay.

There are also rumors claiming that red state folks were cheering for the fires during moments of silence at football games. Californians may be a lot of things, but there are no stories of them cheering for hurricanes during moments of silence for hurricane victims. I’m not even sure that it’s true that red state football fans were cheering during moments of silence but I’ve now seen the claim made a couple of places so the rumors are flying.

Prior to this, I thought that California would go red, because people are so deeply frustrated with the progressive left, but the anger at Republicans who are victim-blaming (while not victim-blaming hurricane victims) is palpable and I am not so sure now.

I just really resent this type of talk as I am in a red state and don't know a single person feeling remotely happy about fires. I am in a couple very large facebook groups for weather/hurricane info, and people feel absolutely terrible and have compassion and want to help. There is a lot of incentive to polarize and divide rather than look at all the people supporting others.

I live in NC, near Asheville, and just went through the Helene devastation. We actually lost our home. After the storm, for a week or more, there was no decent cell service in our region, and almost no one had wifi wither. At least in our neighborhood, people were so banded together during that time, helping each other all day every day. I think it was that way through much of the region. As soon as cell service was back, all the disinformation and politicization started up, and the level of camaraderie was immediately impacted - the tone immediately changed - at a micro level, on the ground, it went from "we're all in this together" to "did you hear that Trump/Biden/FEMA said _________" and the party was over. It was SO eye opening, and sad, and made it feel really apparent how years ago individuals from different parties could work together toward common goals, and how much now we're inundated and affected by what we hear on our partisan news stations and, worse, social media. On a larger scale, of course people are still helping people here, but at the micro level, there was this moment of utopian community action, and it was dispelled instantly by cell service the moment it came back.

SOCIAL MEDIA IS TOXIC!

People - seriously listen to what PP is saying: social media is being used to DIVIDE YOU.

You are being manipulated.

It’s not social media. It’s the Republican politicians spreading lies that are divisive on purpose.

So you're going to just fall for whoever is manipulating you and their lies? You can decide you refuse to get manipulated.

DP. There are multiple bad actors.

Media/news organizations are certainly manipulating a lot of the narratives, motivated by revenue.

Social media provides the platform for unfiltered/unfact checked crap to flood people’s minds.

But Republicans are absolutely spreading lies. They whip up faux “issues” to drive outrage. It’s their entire ethos. They blatantly lie all of the time.

Oh give it a rest. No one is buying your BS anymore.
Election results pretty much are proof of that.
Time for you to crawl back under your rock.

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Anonymous wrote:Call your reps if they're in the GOP. They're talking about having conditions on disaster relief. This ghoulish behavior is a new low.

You're quoting a comedy show via X here though to prove your point. Do you not see how that's an issue?

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At this point, with 87 pages it's most likely the same few people arguing back and forth. Not sure if it's worth adding any opinions.

The big issue in California was the lack of preparedness despite that wildfires are a fact of life, they always happen, they will always happen. There was plenty of advance notice that the weather conditions would be supremely ideal for a massive wildfire (the Santa Ana winds). The meteorologists were warning everyone.

It's hard not to compare this to Florida, which gets battered with hurricanes regularly enough, and hurricane warnings that fizzle out dramatically. I remember plenty of posts on here attacking Florida for everything under the sun leading up to the hurricane, and then when it's over the interest dies away immediately. And it's because Florida has a first rate hurricane response program in place. They are prepared. They know what to do. They get people out, they respond to damage right away, they start rebuilding immediately. They are prepared! That's why we can't remember what the last hurricane was! You may not like Ron DeSantis for whatever reason, but you cannot fault him (and no one does) for not being prepared when a hurricane hits.

We can't say that about California today, no matter what promises the governor or mayor makes or the real truth behind funding numbers or empty fire hydrants. This is a problem because the wildfires will be back somewhere, someday. Arguing over climate change is meaningless because it's here now so you need to be prepared for it now. And that's not California today. Competence, real competence focused on the safety and wellbeing of people, is a problem in California. And that is the situation. Arguing over "he lied" "she lied" is only a red herring.

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Anonymous wrote:Call your reps if they're in the GOP. They're talking about having conditions on disaster relief. This ghoulish behavior is a new low.

You're quoting a comedy show via X here though to prove your point. Do you not see how that's an issue?

Exactly. California has been a cancer telling America how to behave and how they’re the 6th largest global economy etc. But when the Democrat Governor creates a wildfire, they all come running to DC for help. So yes Trump
and Congress are going to impose conditions. Trump will administer no-bid contracts to bury power lines, California will have to become a right to work state, no more environmental regulations that go further than the Federal Government, California will need to impose stringent Electoral Integrity laws. I don’t think that’s unreasonable to fix what Hollywood created.

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If the fire, water, & forestry efforts were underfunded & mismanaged, then the various levels of government are culpable.

If they WEREN’T underfunded or mismanaged, then the various levels of government are inept at employing those adequate resources.

But Newsom & Bass want us to believe nobody did anything wrong & STILL these fires are out of control. Somebody needs to send them one of those “The buck stops here!” signs.

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Anonymous wrote:CA will go RED going forward. It's just time and necessary. Either that, or just let it go...

Californian here. I’ve thought that for awhile (there is a lot of frustration with Democrats here), but the deep anger here at the Republicans who are attacking people who have lost their homes may have interrupted that process. There is a lot of media coverage of those folks and people here are furious, especially because no California politicians tried to target the victims of hurricanes in a similar way.

What people are doing this though? I've only seen a couple examples.

There has been a few links posted in this thread. And it may only be a few Republicans attacking the victims of the fires but links about what they are saying and doing are flying around here, even from people who don’t like Democrats. The behavior is so extreme and cruel that it’s getting a lot of airplay.

There are also rumors claiming that red state folks were cheering for the fires during moments of silence at football games. Californians may be a lot of things, but there are no stories of them cheering for hurricanes during moments of silence for hurricane victims. I’m not even sure that it’s true that red state football fans were cheering during moments of silence but I’ve now seen the claim made a couple of places so the rumors are flying.

Prior to this, I thought that California would go red, because people are so deeply frustrated with the progressive left, but the anger at Republicans who are victim-blaming (while not victim-blaming hurricane victims) is palpable and I am not so sure now.

I just really resent this type of talk as I am in a red state and don't know a single person feeling remotely happy about fires. I am in a couple very large facebook groups for weather/hurricane info, and people feel absolutely terrible and have compassion and want to help. There is a lot of incentive to polarize and divide rather than look at all the people supporting others.

I live in NC, near Asheville, and just went through the Helene devastation. We actually lost our home. After the storm, for a week or more, there was no decent cell service in our region, and almost no one had wifi wither. At least in our neighborhood, people were so banded together during that time, helping each other all day every day. I think it was that way through much of the region. As soon as cell service was back, all the disinformation and politicization started up, and the level of camaraderie was immediately impacted - the tone immediately changed - at a micro level, on the ground, it went from "we're all in this together" to "did you hear that Trump/Biden/FEMA said _________" and the party was over. It was SO eye opening, and sad, and made it feel really apparent how years ago individuals from different parties could work together toward common goals, and how much now we're inundated and affected by what we hear on our partisan news stations and, worse, social media. On a larger scale, of course people are still helping people here, but at the micro level, there was this moment of utopian community action, and it was dispelled instantly by cell service the moment it came back.

SOCIAL MEDIA IS TOXIC!

People - seriously listen to what PP is saying: social media is being used to DIVIDE YOU.

You are being manipulated.

It’s not social media. It’s the Republican politicians spreading lies that are divisive on purpose.

This!!!!! ^^^

9/11 wasn’t politicized. I hate Bush, but at least he had the decency to not divide our county in a tragedy. If only he, or another semi-sane Republican, been president during COVID, maybe we wouldn’t be here.

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Anonymous wrote:CA will go RED going forward. It's just time and necessary. Either that, or just let it go...

Californian here. I’ve thought that for awhile (there is a lot of frustration with Democrats here), but the deep anger here at the Republicans who are attacking people who have lost their homes may have interrupted that process. There is a lot of media coverage of those folks and people here are furious, especially because no California politicians tried to target the victims of hurricanes in a similar way.

What people are doing this though? I've only seen a couple examples.

There has been a few links posted in this thread. And it may only be a few Republicans attacking the victims of the fires but links about what they are saying and doing are flying around here, even from people who don’t like Democrats. The behavior is so extreme and cruel that it’s getting a lot of airplay.

There are also rumors claiming that red state folks were cheering for the fires during moments of silence at football games. Californians may be a lot of things, but there are no stories of them cheering for hurricanes during moments of silence for hurricane victims. I’m not even sure that it’s true that red state football fans were cheering during moments of silence but I’ve now seen the claim made a couple of places so the rumors are flying.

Prior to this, I thought that California would go red, because people are so deeply frustrated with the progressive left, but the anger at Republicans who are victim-blaming (while not victim-blaming hurricane victims) is palpable and I am not so sure now.

I just really resent this type of talk as I am in a red state and don't know a single person feeling remotely happy about fires. I am in a couple very large facebook groups for weather/hurricane info, and people feel absolutely terrible and have compassion and want to help. There is a lot of incentive to polarize and divide rather than look at all the people supporting others.

I live in NC, near Asheville, and just went through the Helene devastation. We actually lost our home. After the storm, for a week or more, there was no decent cell service in our region, and almost no one had wifi wither. At least in our neighborhood, people were so banded together during that time, helping each other all day every day. I think it was that way through much of the region. As soon as cell service was back, all the disinformation and politicization started up, and the level of camaraderie was immediately impacted - the tone immediately changed - at a micro level, on the ground, it went from "we're all in this together" to "did you hear that Trump/Biden/FEMA said _________" and the party was over. It was SO eye opening, and sad, and made it feel really apparent how years ago individuals from different parties could work together toward common goals, and how much now we're inundated and affected by what we hear on our partisan news stations and, worse, social media. On a larger scale, of course people are still helping people here, but at the micro level, there was this moment of utopian community action, and it was dispelled instantly by cell service the moment it came back.

SOCIAL MEDIA IS TOXIC!

People - seriously listen to what PP is saying: social media is being used to DIVIDE YOU.

You are being manipulated.

It’s not social media. It’s the Republican politicians spreading lies that are divisive on purpose.

So you're going to just fall for whoever is manipulating you and their lies? You can decide you refuse to get manipulated.

Well their tweets USED to be fact checked. In the good ol days.

Yeah, THAT worked. (Russian collusion, border is closed, Hunter’s laptop was Russian disinformation, masks & social distancing are effective, Joe is coherent….none of THOSE lies got by anybody)

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Anonymous wrote:Call your reps if they're in the GOP. They're talking about having conditions on disaster relief. This ghoulish behavior is a new low.

You're quoting a comedy show via X here though to prove your point. Do you not see how that's an issue?

Exactly. California has been a cancer telling America how to behave and how they’re the 6th largest global economy etc. But when the Democrat Governor creates a wildfire, they all come running to DC for help. So yes Trump
and Congress are going to impose conditions. Trump will administer no-bid contracts to bury power lines, California will have to become a right to work state, no more environmental regulations that go further than the Federal Government, California will need to impose stringent Electoral Integrity laws. I don’t think that’s unreasonable to fix what Hollywood created.

You’re insane. Why should a felon, and his billionaire cronies, profit off taxpayers? God, I wish I believed in h3ll.