Your prediction? Here come the USNWR updates

[Anonymous]

This thread is about the soon to be released, UPDATED (emphasis added) ranking for high schools.

I just checked, and the website states:

“U.S. News anticipates the next update of high school rankings will not be released until August 2025, closer to that year’s update of elementary and middle schools. . . .
Altogether, the rankings and data are intended to be one resource, not the final word, for parents considering educational opportunities for their children.”


Please don’t dilute the topic with the same old fights which dominate the other thread. My thread is about the upcoming rankings for public high schools, due out next month.

TIA!

[Anonymous]

You are so lame for starting this. Don't you have better things to do? We all know what your agenda is and that is to target TJ. You are just dying to see if it fell further in rankings so you can blame it on some woke agenda and cause unnecessary strife. Get a life, OP.

[Anonymous]

WTF is wrong with you?

Get a life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is about the soon to be released, UPDATED (emphasis added) ranking for high schools.

I just checked, and the website states:

“U.S. News anticipates the next update of high school rankings will not be released until August 2025, closer to that year’s update of elementary and middle schools. . . .
Altogether, the rankings and data are intended to be one resource, not the final word, for parents considering educational opportunities for their children.”


Please don’t dilute the topic with the same old fights which dominate the other thread. My thread is about the upcoming rankings for public high schools, due out next month.

TIA!

My prediction: back to #1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is about the soon to be released, UPDATED (emphasis added) ranking for high schools.

I just checked, and the website states:

“U.S. News anticipates the next update of high school rankings will not be released until August 2025, closer to that year’s update of elementary and middle schools. . . .
Altogether, the rankings and data are intended to be one resource, not the final word, for parents considering educational opportunities for their children.”


Please don’t dilute the topic with the same old fights which dominate the other thread. My thread is about the upcoming rankings for public high schools, due out next month.

TIA!

If it captures the drop in standardized test scores then I would guess somewhere between Bronx Science and Brooklyn Tech.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You are so lame for starting this. Don't you have better things to do? We all know what your agenda is and that is to target TJ. You are just dying to see if it fell further in rankings so you can blame it on some woke agenda and cause unnecessary strife. Get a life, OP.

DP
So we should not be checking on the progress of a highly controversial change to see if it was a good idea or more left wing buffoonery?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You are so lame for starting this. Don't you have better things to do? We all know what your agenda is and that is to target TJ. You are just dying to see if it fell further in rankings so you can blame it on some woke agenda and cause unnecessary strife. Get a life, OP.

DP
So we should not be checking on the progress of a highly controversial change to see if it was a good idea or more left wing buffoonery?

NP. Not from Virginia. Why would you rely on the research of a failed magazine to determine the quality of a local high school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You are so lame for starting this. Don't you have better things to do? We all know what your agenda is and that is to target TJ. You are just dying to see if it fell further in rankings so you can blame it on some woke agenda and cause unnecessary strife. Get a life, OP.

DP
So we should not be checking on the progress of a highly controversial change to see if it was a good idea or more left wing buffoonery?

NP. Not from Virginia. Why would you rely on the research of a failed magazine to determine the quality of a local high school?

By that measure, why are universities ranked? (Not coincidentally by the same magazine).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You are so lame for starting this. Don't you have better things to do? We all know what your agenda is and that is to target TJ. You are just dying to see if it fell further in rankings so you can blame it on some woke agenda and cause unnecessary strife. Get a life, OP.

DP
So we should not be checking on the progress of a highly controversial change to see if it was a good idea or more left wing buffoonery?

DP - what we shouldn't be doing is 1) ranking high schools in the first place; 2) relying on some outdated method of trying to compare schools that have completely different profiles that is put forth by a magazine that seemingly only still exists to do this set of rankings.

You're creating a false choice here. I agree that the change was highly controversial (I personally believe that there were a lot of positives and a few negatives that are starting to regulate themselves), but it's not appropriate to pretend that the USNWR rankings are some objective measure of the caliber of the school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You are so lame for starting this. Don't you have better things to do? We all know what your agenda is and that is to target TJ. You are just dying to see if it fell further in rankings so you can blame it on some woke agenda and cause unnecessary strife. Get a life, OP.

DP
So we should not be checking on the progress of a highly controversial change to see if it was a good idea or more left wing buffoonery?

DP - what we shouldn't be doing is 1) ranking high schools in the first place; 2) relying on some outdated method of trying to compare schools that have completely different profiles that is put forth by a magazine that seemingly only still exists to do this set of rankings.

You're creating a false choice here. I agree that the change was highly controversial (I personally believe that there were a lot of positives and a few negatives that are starting to regulate themselves), but it's not appropriate to pretend that the USNWR rankings are some objective measure of the caliber of the school.

I disagree. So there we are. FCPS Board and TJHSST itself touted its #1 ranking loudly and often when promoting the county and the school. So . . .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is about the soon to be released, UPDATED (emphasis added) ranking for high schools.

I just checked, and the website states:

“U.S. News anticipates the next update of high school rankings will not be released until August 2025, closer to that year’s update of elementary and middle schools. . . .
Altogether, the rankings and data are intended to be one resource, not the final word, for parents considering educational opportunities for their children.”


Please don’t dilute the topic with the same old fights which dominate the other thread. My thread is about the upcoming rankings for public high schools, due out next month.

TIA!

My prediction: back to #1

With the new process eliminating the widespread cheating, TJ will be back on top.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You are so lame for starting this. Don't you have better things to do? We all know what your agenda is and that is to target TJ. You are just dying to see if it fell further in rankings so you can blame it on some woke agenda and cause unnecessary strife. Get a life, OP.

DP
So we should not be checking on the progress of a highly controversial change to see if it was a good idea or more left wing buffoonery?

DP - what we shouldn't be doing is 1) ranking high schools in the first place; 2) relying on some outdated method of trying to compare schools that have completely different profiles that is put forth by a magazine that seemingly only still exists to do this set of rankings.

You're creating a false choice here. I agree that the change was highly controversial (I personally believe that there were a lot of positives and a few negatives that are starting to regulate themselves), but it's not appropriate to pretend that the USNWR rankings are some objective measure of the caliber of the school.

The USNWR ranking is just one of a long list of indicators.

PSAT scores down over 100 points with SAT scores likely dropped a similar amount.

College acceptance significantly worse than in the past.

A tenfold increase in number of students returning to base school.

A mass email sent out by the math department expressing disappointment in student performance.

The USNWR ranking is just one of a long lost of indicators.

I didn't know what real positives there are. There are a few superficial cosmetic positives but nothing real.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is about the soon to be released, UPDATED (emphasis added) ranking for high schools.

I just checked, and the website states:

“U.S. News anticipates the next update of high school rankings will not be released until August 2025, closer to that year’s update of elementary and middle schools. . . .
Altogether, the rankings and data are intended to be one resource, not the final word, for parents considering educational opportunities for their children.”


Please don’t dilute the topic with the same old fights which dominate the other thread. My thread is about the upcoming rankings for public high schools, due out next month.

TIA!

My prediction: back to #1

With the new process eliminating the widespread cheating, TJ will be back on top.

Cheating? That sounds like news. Do you have links to any newspaper articles?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is about the soon to be released, UPDATED (emphasis added) ranking for high schools.

I just checked, and the website states:

“U.S. News anticipates the next update of high school rankings will not be released until August 2025, closer to that year’s update of elementary and middle schools. . . .
Altogether, the rankings and data are intended to be one resource, not the final word, for parents considering educational opportunities for their children.”


Please don’t dilute the topic with the same old fights which dominate the other thread. My thread is about the upcoming rankings for public high schools, due out next month.

TIA!

My prediction: back to #1

With the new process eliminating the widespread cheating, TJ will be back on top.

Cheating? That sounds like news. Do you have links to any newspaper articles?

It was well covered here numerous times. You can use the search function to learn more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You are so lame for starting this. Don't you have better things to do? We all know what your agenda is and that is to target TJ. You are just dying to see if it fell further in rankings so you can blame it on some woke agenda and cause unnecessary strife. Get a life, OP.

DP
So we should not be checking on the progress of a highly controversial change to see if it was a good idea or more left wing buffoonery?

DP - what we shouldn't be doing is 1) ranking high schools in the first place; 2) relying on some outdated method of trying to compare schools that have completely different profiles that is put forth by a magazine that seemingly only still exists to do this set of rankings.

You're creating a false choice here. I agree that the change was highly controversial (I personally believe that there were a lot of positives and a few negatives that are starting to regulate themselves), but it's not appropriate to pretend that the USNWR rankings are some objective measure of the caliber of the school.

The USNWR ranking is just one of a long list of indicators.

PSAT scores down over 100 points with SAT scores likely dropped a similar amount.

College acceptance significantly worse than in the past.

A tenfold increase in number of students returning to base school.

A mass email sent out by the math department expressing disappointment in student performance.

The USNWR ranking is just one of a long lost of indicators.

I didn't know what real positives there are. There are a few superficial cosmetic positives but nothing real.

TJ students were just as affected by Covid as all other kids. PSAT scores and math are going to affected by school closings during COVID. TJ kids aren't immune to crisis in the world.

TJ kids going back to base school doesn't necessarily mean they didn't cut it at TJ. By design the new TJ admissions process is looking for well rounded kids who have interests outside of just academics. I can see how some kids may want to return to their base school to pursue interests that TJ doesn't offer or offers but not at the same level- football. choir, guitar, a particular language, etc.

College acceptances aren't worse they are more realistic. The change in the testing method was partially due to increasing economic diversity at the school. Bright kids would couldn't be penalized for not being able to afford test prep classes. And it worked! But that also means that these kids can't always afford private ivy colleges, or out of state schools. You will see more staying in state or taking full ride scholarships Mason- where they can stay home and not pay for dorms and food.

OP and people like OP aren't critical thinkers. They really don't look beyond surface level data to see what is really happening on the ground.

TJ is very much still a success story. FCPS schools are still very much some of the best in the country. And we are very lucky to have them for now... until people like OP shut them down.