So Trump doesn’t want anyone coming in, is there a point

[Anonymous]

Where none of us can get out? What is the long term agenda here—no foreign students, no immigrants, isolates our allies, befriends our frenemies, stomping on our university free speech, … where are we at?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where none of us can get out? What is the long term agenda here—no foreign students, no immigrants, isolates our allies, befriends our frenemies, stomping on our university free speech, … where are we at?

He’s a fascist. Every time we say this. mAGA whines. Read the fascist playbook. He’s on chapter 4.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where none of us can get out? What is the long term agenda here—no foreign students, no immigrants, isolates our allies, befriends our frenemies, stomping on our university free speech, … where are we at?

This. Create so many enemies that we have nowhere to go and have to stay put funding the horror show with our tax dollars.

[Anonymous]

Trump is pulling all of the levers at his disposal to get control of illegal situations (antisemitism, disguised DEI, Title IX violations) that universities refuse to control. Instead of complying with the law, Harvard and other schools have chosen to fight him in the courts (international student program). While the courts have temporarily ruled in their favor, Trump is pulling levers that no judge has any right to interfere with under the Constitution (visa reviews). Universities are making things worse for themselves, instead of negotiating appropriate solutions.

Disagree with him all you like. Call him any name you like. He is the President of the United States and has the authority of that office.

[Anonymous]

But he wears a diaper and is orange. And lies like a trooper. And is a misogynist. I simply can’t abide him.

[Anonymous]

And he apppears to have a target on everyone’s back aside from white males, blonde women, and MAGA? I’ve never lived under such a President as this.

[Anonymous]

As long as you're here legally and you don't say anything that's perceived to be anti-Semitic, you have nothing to worry about

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where none of us can get out? What is the long term agenda here—no foreign students, no immigrants, isolates our allies, befriends our frenemies, stomping on our university free speech, … where are we at?

It's a reduction across all categories. The piecemeal reasoning about increasing immigration has been detrimental across the spectrum.

This is basically how immigrant advocates go about arguing. We want seasonal fruit pickers. We only need them part of the year then they go home. Now the dairy industry says we can't make any money because all of the plant farms make all of the money because they have the premium on cheap labor. Then the manufacturer's say, but no one wants to do X Y or Z so we need a cheap labor pool. What about skilled immigrants STEM. We need those. What about presidents we need a foreigner like Musk to run the country...

The point is that the economy is so interlinked that you can't just carve out one section and say we need more of these. It will attract all of the capital chasing the cheap labor costs then bubbles form. You can see this in tech do we really need to be at the AI juncture so fast? First there was the dot.com bubble, then they kept bringing in more people. If we hadn't done this, we would have been fine. We didn't really need AI this quickly and we aren't ready for it. This was caused by a cheap skilled labor supply then capital flowing into that sector chasing the premiums on that labor relative to broader economy.

So yeah, immigration needs to get whacked back across the board. I'd prefer to reduce h-1b(student visas first) because we have taken a brunt of it for decades, but I can sympathize with other trades.

In essence in a free-market system there should be no concept of "labor shortage". There are only industries that cannot pay sufficient wages because they produce insufficient value. This is the real problem our economy has is that many of these labor arbitrage industries aren't actually producing goods efficiently. They are producing goods according to where the cheap labor is rather than actual market needs. Then reducing labor costs mean workers (who pay the bulk of the taxes by the way) can't afford to pay much in taxes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As long as you're here legally and you don't say anything that's perceived to be anti-Semitic, you have nothing to worry about

Do we care not for our neighbors and their families—some may be illegal parents with citizen teen children? College students can get caught up in politics they are not fully cognizant of—dare we label them all antiSemitic? This is dangerous ever shifting territory. I thought ICE was going after murderers and gang members—I see Moms, young boys, children in these sweeps.. UNGODLY

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Trump is pulling all of the levers at his disposal to get control of illegal situations (antisemitism, disguised DEI, Title IX violations) that universities refuse to control. Instead of complying with the law, Harvard and other schools have chosen to fight him in the courts (international student program). While the courts have temporarily ruled in their favor, Trump is pulling levers that no judge has any right to interfere with under the Constitution (visa reviews). Universities are making things worse for themselves, instead of negotiating appropriate solutions.

Disagree with him all you like. Call him any name you like. He is the President of the United States and has the authority of that office.

Authority of the office.

See, that’s where you are both confused. He thinks that he has much more power than he does. This overreach might actually work out in favor of the country because he’s losing all at once and has nothing prepared to battle in the courts. He’s just stream of consciousness blurting out out BS and having tantrums and then trying to get under qualified and outgunned people to fight the battles.

America will win, Taco will lose.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As long as you're here legally and you don't say anything that's perceived to be anti-Semitic, you have nothing to worry about

Do we care not for our neighbors and their families—some may be illegal parents with citizen teen children? College students can get caught up in politics they are not fully cognizant of—dare we label them all antiSemitic? This is dangerous ever shifting territory. I thought ICE was going after murderers and gang members—I see Moms, young boys, children in these sweeps.. UNGODLY

Children should never be punished for the wrongs of their parents.

And just a reminder that anything pro-Palestinian/anti-Israel is classified as antisemitic by the ADL. So even saying "Free Palestine" is considered antisemitic. Don't be surprised when someone will be claim that saying "Free Palestine" is the equivalent to "Heil Hitler" or that it should be as taboo as the N-word.

If the people of Project Esther have their way, "antisemitic speech" can not only lead to deportation by ICE but also terrorism charges.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As long as you're here legally and you don't say anything that's perceived to be anti-Semitic, you have nothing to worry about

Until… he announces the next thing he is going after. Medicaid was safe until it wasn’t. Permanent residents were safe until they weren’t. Student visa holders were safe…you get the idea.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As long as you're here legally and you don't say anything that's perceived to be anti-Semitic, you have nothing to worry about

Oooooh, not so much. Dying children are going to worry people.

Trump/ICE deports a 4 year old girl (legal immigrant) who relies on daily nutrient transfusion to survive.
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1276183.page

Trump has ordered a critically ill four-year-old Mexican girl to leave the country. She could die within days, experts say

Deysi Vargas and her 4-year-old daughter were granted temporary humanitarian permission to enter the U.S. in 2023 due to a life-threatening condition

[Anonymous]

It’s not going to get that bad. Look up Hungary and their government, they are trying to get it like that.

[Anonymous]

Door is wide open if you want to leave. Didn’t you liberals promise to do so when we elected Trump? Off you go.