Lively/Baldoni Lawsuit Part 2

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Anonymous wrote:Article on Medium about Blake and Ryan’s racist past and the irony that she found shooting the scene with a prosthetic belly, black briefs and a hospital gown humiliating and invasive yet is demanding full access to Natasha Heath’s birth video.

Also had a chilling photo from their wedding set up in front of the slaves quarters. I also didn’t realize how crazy out of touch her lifestyle brand was - I knew it was called Preserve but I didn’t realize it was all about the antebellum south.

https://medium.com/@eumoniadike/blake-lively-and-ryan-reynolds-tried-to-prevent-a-black-man-from-defending-himself-in-court-and-275155890477

This article is weird because it lumps clueless at best and most likely racist behavior on Blake's part with tangentially tying Ryan to the death of a black woman on one of his sets. I think the article is written to somehow imply that race was an issue in that case, but doesn't even suggest that and doesn't suggest that Ryan had anything at all to do with what happened. The only tie is that he was making the movie and while his production company wasn't actually even a defendant in her family's suit, the suit settled after they threatened to add a large number of parties including that production company. I actually think it's incredibly sloppy journalism to equate that to Blake's Antebellum racist nightmare and it makes me think the author had an agenda... making me question whether the Snipes and Johnson anecdotes have anything to do with race (which it's really not clear that they do even by the article's terms).

Ultimately, I am uncomfortable by the work the article does to paint badmouth Reynolds and suspect it is likely a hit piece of the type Stephanie Jones has been behind and the article criticizes.

Disagree that it is sloppy journalism. There is a pattern here. Blake might have acted the same way had JH been white, but the optics are that a black man pulled out his phone to show her something, and she immediately thought it was p-rn. and not only that she let people think that for two weeks in between when the New York Times article ran and when Justin Baldoni’s team got their website up and showed he wasn’t showing her p-rn at work - he was showing her his wife’s birth video in the context of a discussion of a birth scene in the movie. Combine that with the fact that this woman had a lifestyle brand celebrating the antebellum south, and pictures of her wedding meal set up, literally in front of what are very obvious slave quarters.

I actually do think it’s telling that the woman who died on Deadpool was a Black woman. The stunt was supposed to be performed a different way and at the last minute, they changed their mind and let it go without safety precautions. Now clearly no one wanted her to die and it was a tragic accident, but her family had every right to ask for a settlement given the mistakes that were made and the fact that they had to threaten to go public to get the settlement is appalling and inhumane.

Ryan is Deadpool. I don’t just mean it’s his character. It was his set. He has a huge leadership role in that franchise. He, and the people he surrounded himself with to make this franchise, completely disregarded this woman and her family and it’s gross.

I don’t think these things are just random coincidences. These are thoughtless people who sail through life with an incredible disregard for others.

+1 million

It's so disturbing to me that Blake supporters try to claim Justin is a racist based on some non-sexual harassment-related suit a Black woman filed against Wayfarer (Wayfarer, not Justin specifically), but a Black woman literally dies on the set of Deadpool and it's NBD to them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Article on Medium about Blake and Ryan’s racist past and the irony that she found shooting the scene with a prosthetic belly, black briefs and a hospital gown humiliating and invasive yet is demanding full access to Natasha Heath’s birth video.

Also had a chilling photo from their wedding set up in front of the slaves quarters. I also didn’t realize how crazy out of touch her lifestyle brand was - I knew it was called Preserve but I didn’t realize it was all about the antebellum south.

https://medium.com/@eumoniadike/blake-lively-and-ryan-reynolds-tried-to-prevent-a-black-man-from-defending-himself-in-court-and-275155890477

This article is weird because it lumps clueless at best and most likely racist behavior on Blake's part with tangentially tying Ryan to the death of a black woman on one of his sets. I think the article is written to somehow imply that race was an issue in that case, but doesn't even suggest that and doesn't suggest that Ryan had anything at all to do with what happened. The only tie is that he was making the movie and while his production company wasn't actually even a defendant in her family's suit, the suit settled after they threatened to add a large number of parties including that production company. I actually think it's incredibly sloppy journalism to equate that to Blake's Antebellum racist nightmare and it makes me think the author had an agenda... making me question whether the Snipes and Johnson anecdotes have anything to do with race (which it's really not clear that they do even by the article's terms).

Ultimately, I am uncomfortable by the work the article does to paint badmouth Reynolds and suspect it is likely a hit piece of the type Stephanie Jones has been behind and the article criticizes.

Disagree that it is sloppy journalism. There is a pattern here. Blake might have acted the same way had JH been white, but the optics are that a black man pulled out his phone to show her something, and she immediately thought it was p-rn. and not only that she let people think that for two weeks in between when the New York Times article ran and when Justin Baldoni’s team got their website up and showed he wasn’t showing her p-rn at work - he was showing her his wife’s birth video in the context of a discussion of a birth scene in the movie. Combine that with the fact that this woman had a lifestyle brand celebrating the antebellum south, and pictures of her wedding meal set up, literally in front of what are very obvious slave quarters.

I actually do think it’s telling that the woman who died on Deadpool was a Black woman. The stunt was supposed to be performed a different way and at the last minute, they changed their mind and let it go without safety precautions. Now clearly no one wanted her to die and it was a tragic accident, but her family had every right to ask for a settlement given the mistakes that were made and the fact that they had to threaten to go public to get the settlement is appalling and inhumane.

Ryan is Deadpool. I don’t just mean it’s his character. It was his set. He has a huge leadership role in that franchise. He, and the people he surrounded himself with to make this franchise, completely disregarded this woman and her family and it’s gross.

I don’t think these things are just random coincidences. These are thoughtless people who sail through life with an incredible disregard for others.

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It's so disturbing to me that Blake supporters try to claim Justin is a racist based on some non-sexual harassment-related suit a Black woman filed against Wayfarer (Wayfarer, not Justin specifically), but a Black woman literally dies on the set of Deadpool and it's NBD to them.

What? There is no suggestion at all that the woman’s death was related to racism or even that Ryan had anything directly to do with it. Trying to make it into a racist incident is crazy.

[Anonymous]

^^ And FWIW I am not a Blake supporter and think she has done very racist things. But being the star and one of many producers on a film where a stunt person who happens to be black dies is definitely not evidence of racism. I agree with the PP that it’s intentionally misleading journalism.

[Anonymous]

NAG has a new tik tok up claiming that Ryan Reynolds has been harassing her via alias accounts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NAG has a new tik tok up claiming that Ryan Reynolds has been harassing her via alias accounts.

That was funny. Ain't nobody got time for that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^ And FWIW I am not a Blake supporter and think she has done very racist things. But being the star and one of many producers on a film where a stunt person who happens to be black dies is definitely not evidence of racism. I agree with the PP that it’s intentionally misleading journalism.

It’s hard to justify the blatant disregard for the family.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NAG has a new tik tok up claiming that Ryan Reynolds has been harassing her via alias accounts.

I'm pro-Baldoni, but I wish she didn't make that video. She comes off as a little crazy, even though I fully believe celebs -- especially Ryan -- aren't above anonymous comments.

[Anonymous]

What is the tl,dr on why everyone on reddit hates Alex Saks now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ And FWIW I am not a Blake supporter and think she has done very racist things. But being the star and one of many producers on a film where a stunt person who happens to be black dies is definitely not evidence of racism. I agree with the PP that it’s intentionally misleading journalism.

It’s hard to justify the blatant disregard for the family.

The blatant disregard for the family meaning the main producer’s insurance not being willing to settle immediately? That’s completely par for the course. They eventually settled’ It also wasn’t even Ryan’s production company that was sued, so remind me why that’s evidence that he’s racist? Racism is a strong allegation to throw around and I really think this one is a crazy stretch that suggests folks have a specific agenda.

And again, I do think there’s evidence that Blake is racist and I have no problem saying that Ryan’s wedding is suggestive of racism… but most of the Ryan allegations in the essay are fishing at best and intentionally misleading at worst. The Denzel Washington stuff is very recently all over YT despite the events happening more than 10 years ago, which makes me think that anecdote is being spread by bots somehow… because why are people currently talking about it. Especially when reviewing the Washington clip makes it clear he was being sarcastic/funny in the described incident. It just all reads as very much an intentional smear job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NAG has a new tik tok up claiming that Ryan Reynolds has been harassing her via alias accounts.

That was funny. Ain't nobody got time for that.

Sounds pretty legit actually.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^^ And FWIW I am not a Blake supporter and think she has done very racist things. But being the star and one of many producers on a film where a stunt person who happens to be black dies is definitely not evidence of racism. I agree with the PP that it’s intentionally misleading journalism.

It’s hard to justify the blatant disregard for the family.

The blatant disregard for the family meaning the main producer’s insurance not being willing to settle immediately? That’s completely par for the course. They eventually settled’ It also wasn’t even Ryan’s production company that was sued, so remind me why that’s evidence that he’s racist? Racism is a strong allegation to throw around and I really think this one is a crazy stretch that suggests folks have a specific agenda.

And again, I do think there’s evidence that Blake is racist and I have no problem saying that Ryan’s wedding is suggestive of racism… but most of the Ryan allegations in the essay are fishing at best and intentionally misleading at worst. The Denzel Washington stuff is very recently all over YT despite the events happening more than 10 years ago, which makes me think that anecdote is being spread by bots somehow… because why are people currently talking about it. Especially when reviewing the Washington clip makes it clear he was being sarcastic/funny in the described incident. It just all reads as very much an intentional smear job.

It’s hard to think of another celebrity who has more racist incidents over the years than Blake lively. And you think Ryan is just married to this racist, but isn’t what himself? Doesn’t quite add up.

It’s just weird optics that Ryan is one of the most powerful celebs in Hollywood - or at least was in the last 15 years or so, and all of his controversies onset seem to involve POC.

And the fact that he just dissolved a Boone hall LLC earlier this month after Reddit sleuths reported on it is also off. Especially since he came out and denounced the wedding so many years ago.

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That wedding photo in front of the slave quarters is actually bonkers. I don’t even understand why that is an aesthetic they were going for? It’s an old building that looks like it should be torn down… Like why would you want your nice tables and chairs and your guests to be sitting there eating near that? I truly truly do not understand it.

I was totally forgiving when I found out that they had had a wedding at a plantation because I’m from the south and even though I didn’t do that I know it’s very common. But I’ve never seen anything like those slave quarters. That is just beyond bizarre. I thought when they said they saw pictures on Pinterest that they just meant they loved that there was lots of land and gardens and maybe some old barns. What they actually did was insane and absurd. And then to follow that up with the lifestyle brand. And why does Blake say she’s from the south when she grew up in Burbank California????

This case and these people are endlessly fascinating and not in a good way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Article on Medium about Blake and Ryan’s racist past and the irony that she found shooting the scene with a prosthetic belly, black briefs and a hospital gown humiliating and invasive yet is demanding full access to Natasha Heath’s birth video.

Also had a chilling photo from their wedding set up in front of the slaves quarters. I also didn’t realize how crazy out of touch her lifestyle brand was - I knew it was called Preserve but I didn’t realize it was all about the antebellum south.

https://medium.com/@eumoniadike/blake-lively-and-ryan-reynolds-tried-to-prevent-a-black-man-from-defending-himself-in-court-and-275155890477

This article is weird because it lumps clueless at best and most likely racist behavior on Blake's part with tangentially tying Ryan to the death of a black woman on one of his sets. I think the article is written to somehow imply that race was an issue in that case, but doesn't even suggest that and doesn't suggest that Ryan had anything at all to do with what happened. The only tie is that he was making the movie and while his production company wasn't actually even a defendant in her family's suit, the suit settled after they threatened to add a large number of parties including that production company. I actually think it's incredibly sloppy journalism to equate that to Blake's Antebellum racist nightmare and it makes me think the author had an agenda... making me question whether the Snipes and Johnson anecdotes have anything to do with race (which it's really not clear that they do even by the article's terms).

Ultimately, I am uncomfortable by the work the article does to paint badmouth Reynolds and suspect it is likely a hit piece of the type Stephanie Jones has been behind and the article criticizes.

Disagree that it is sloppy journalism. There is a pattern here. Blake might have acted the same way had JH been white, but the optics are that a black man pulled out his phone to show her something, and she immediately thought it was p-rn. and not only that she let people think that for two weeks in between when the New York Times article ran and when Justin Baldoni’s team got their website up and showed he wasn’t showing her p-rn at work - he was showing her his wife’s birth video in the context of a discussion of a birth scene in the movie. Combine that with the fact that this woman had a lifestyle brand celebrating the antebellum south, and pictures of her wedding meal set up, literally in front of what are very obvious slave quarters.

I actually do think it’s telling that the woman who died on Deadpool was a Black woman. The stunt was supposed to be performed a different way and at the last minute, they changed their mind and let it go without safety precautions. Now clearly no one wanted her to die and it was a tragic accident, but her family had every right to ask for a settlement given the mistakes that were made and the fact that they had to threaten to go public to get the settlement is appalling and inhumane.

Ryan is Deadpool. I don’t just mean it’s his character. It was his set. He has a huge leadership role in that franchise. He, and the people he surrounded himself with to make this franchise, completely disregarded this woman and her family and it’s gross.

I don’t think these things are just random coincidences. These are thoughtless people who sail through life with an incredible disregard for others.

This is stupid, sorry. Lively didn't mistake the picture of Heath's naked wife for porn because Heath is black. She mistook them for porn because Heath showed them to her with no explanation and the pic was of a woman with no clothes on and her legs spread apart, which seems like a sexual situation.

Here's a tip: Don't show your co-workers pictures of naked women -- whether it's a porn situation or a birth situation -- without their express permission and some sort of clear warning. THE. END. It's not that hard, guys, even though you keep trying to make Lively seem overreactive or emotional or now racist because the guy showing her the naked pic was black. NO. SHE MISTOOK IT FOR PORN BECAUSE THE WOMAN WAS NAKED AND HAD HER LEGS SPREAD APART. So don't do that. Don't be a dick.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Article on Medium about Blake and Ryan’s racist past and the irony that she found shooting the scene with a prosthetic belly, black briefs and a hospital gown humiliating and invasive yet is demanding full access to Natasha Heath’s birth video.

Also had a chilling photo from their wedding set up in front of the slaves quarters. I also didn’t realize how crazy out of touch her lifestyle brand was - I knew it was called Preserve but I didn’t realize it was all about the antebellum south.

https://medium.com/@eumoniadike/blake-lively-and-ryan-reynolds-tried-to-prevent-a-black-man-from-defending-himself-in-court-and-275155890477

This article is weird because it lumps clueless at best and most likely racist behavior on Blake's part with tangentially tying Ryan to the death of a black woman on one of his sets. I think the article is written to somehow imply that race was an issue in that case, but doesn't even suggest that and doesn't suggest that Ryan had anything at all to do with what happened. The only tie is that he was making the movie and while his production company wasn't actually even a defendant in her family's suit, the suit settled after they threatened to add a large number of parties including that production company. I actually think it's incredibly sloppy journalism to equate that to Blake's Antebellum racist nightmare and it makes me think the author had an agenda... making me question whether the Snipes and Johnson anecdotes have anything to do with race (which it's really not clear that they do even by the article's terms).

Ultimately, I am uncomfortable by the work the article does to paint badmouth Reynolds and suspect it is likely a hit piece of the type Stephanie Jones has been behind and the article criticizes.

Disagree that it is sloppy journalism. There is a pattern here. Blake might have acted the same way had JH been white, but the optics are that a black man pulled out his phone to show her something, and she immediately thought it was p-rn. and not only that she let people think that for two weeks in between when the New York Times article ran and when Justin Baldoni’s team got their website up and showed he wasn’t showing her p-rn at work - he was showing her his wife’s birth video in the context of a discussion of a birth scene in the movie. Combine that with the fact that this woman had a lifestyle brand celebrating the antebellum south, and pictures of her wedding meal set up, literally in front of what are very obvious slave quarters.

I actually do think it’s telling that the woman who died on Deadpool was a Black woman. The stunt was supposed to be performed a different way and at the last minute, they changed their mind and let it go without safety precautions. Now clearly no one wanted her to die and it was a tragic accident, but her family had every right to ask for a settlement given the mistakes that were made and the fact that they had to threaten to go public to get the settlement is appalling and inhumane.

Ryan is Deadpool. I don’t just mean it’s his character. It was his set. He has a huge leadership role in that franchise. He, and the people he surrounded himself with to make this franchise, completely disregarded this woman and her family and it’s gross.

I don’t think these things are just random coincidences. These are thoughtless people who sail through life with an incredible disregard for others.

This is stupid, sorry. Lively didn't mistake the picture of Heath's naked wife for porn because Heath is black. She mistook them for porn because Heath showed them to her with no explanation and the pic was of a woman with no clothes on and her legs spread apart, which seems like a sexual situation.

Here's a tip: Don't show your co-workers pictures of naked women -- whether it's a porn situation or a birth situation -- without their express permission and some sort of clear warning. THE. END. It's not that hard, guys, even though you keep trying to make Lively seem overreactive or emotional or now racist because the guy showing her the naked pic was black. NO. SHE MISTOOK IT FOR PORN BECAUSE THE WOMAN WAS NAKED AND HAD HER LEGS SPREAD APART. So don't do that. Don't be a dick.

It continues to be wild to me that people are going hard for the argument that it was okay for Heath to try to show his wife's birthing video to Blake at work. Even if you don't think this is sexual harassment or that Blake overreacted to it, it just seems obvious that this was a major error in judgment on Heath's part.

Also, IIRC, Heath only showed Lively the video because Baldoni encouraged him to do it, with the thinking being that Blake had never seen a birth experience like that and would benefit from seeing it. This is... f***ing weird. Those are not good reasons to show someone a very intimate and personal video that features your wife naked. In fact, those are reasons to stop and think "huh this might be unfamiliar to my coworker and she therefore may not view it in the context with which I intend it."

The incident doesn't make Baldoni and Heath sound like sexual predators to me, at all. It does make them seem tone deaf, sort of paternalistic, and above all: dumb.

[Anonymous]

I still don’t understand how his wife legs were spread apart and she thinks that’s p$&n but they’re is not a baby coming out or crowning? It was a water birth. Do they have underwater cameras? People throw these terms around like they know what happened but it just doesn’t make sense that that was happening.

It also sounded like they were having a meal together and discussing the scene. He didn’t just come up to her and whip it out.

Blake was trying to put together a random list of things and hoping that the pattern would show SH.

And if you don’t think race has anything to do with it, you haven’t been paying attention. This is the same woman who would regularly breast-feed in front of other colleagues, but when she invited Heath in for a meeting, she made him face the wall. Other option, Blake, would be to go to the regular scheduled meeting that other producers went to, but you thought you didn’t have time for so you are making people come into your trailer while you were multitasking because your time is clearly more important than anyone else’s.