Lively/Baldoni Lawsuit Part 2

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I still don’t understand how his wife legs were spread apart and she thinks that’s p$&n but they’re is not a baby coming out or crowning? It was a water birth. Do they have underwater cameras? People throw these terms around like they know what happened but it just doesn’t make sense that that was happening.

It also sounded like they were having a meal together and discussing the scene. He didn’t just come up to her and whip it out.

Blake was trying to put together a random list of things and hoping that the pattern would show SH.

And if you don’t think race has anything to do with it, you haven’t been paying attention. This is the same woman who would regularly breast-feed in front of other colleagues, but when she invited Heath in for a meeting, she made him face the wall. Other option, Blake, would be to go to the regular scheduled meeting that other producers went to, but you thought you didn’t have time for so you are making people come into your trailer while you were multitasking because your time is clearly more important than anyone else’s.

What a reach. Being black doesn't make it OK to act like an ass at work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I still don’t understand how his wife legs were spread apart and she thinks that’s p$&n but they’re is not a baby coming out or crowning? It was a water birth. Do they have underwater cameras? People throw these terms around like they know what happened but it just doesn’t make sense that that was happening.

It also sounded like they were having a meal together and discussing the scene. He didn’t just come up to her and whip it out.

Blake was trying to put together a random list of things and hoping that the pattern would show SH.

And if you don’t think race has anything to do with it, you haven’t been paying attention. This is the same woman who would regularly breast-feed in front of other colleagues, but when she invited Heath in for a meeting, she made him face the wall. Other option, Blake, would be to go to the regular scheduled meeting that other producers went to, but you thought you didn’t have time for so you are making people come into your trailer while you were multitasking because your time is clearly more important than anyone else’s.

What a reach. Being black doesn't make it OK to act like an ass at work.

But if you are a white lady who got married in front of slave quarters on a plantation and had a lifestyle brand about the antebellum South and when a black man pulls out his phone to show you something and you run to the New York Times and let people believe that he showed you porn on his phone….The optics of that don’t look good. I don’t make the rules. Shrug. Go on any public forum about Blake lively and you will see people are upset about this. She is a crisis communications firm’s dream.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^^ And FWIW I am not a Blake supporter and think she has done very racist things. But being the star and one of many producers on a film where a stunt person who happens to be black dies is definitely not evidence of racism. I agree with the PP that it’s intentionally misleading journalism.

It’s hard to justify the blatant disregard for the family.

The blatant disregard for the family meaning the main producer’s insurance not being willing to settle immediately? That’s completely par for the course. They eventually settled’ It also wasn’t even Ryan’s production company that was sued, so remind me why that’s evidence that he’s racist? Racism is a strong allegation to throw around and I really think this one is a crazy stretch that suggests folks have a specific agenda.

And again, I do think there’s evidence that Blake is racist and I have no problem saying that Ryan’s wedding is suggestive of racism… but most of the Ryan allegations in the essay are fishing at best and intentionally misleading at worst. The Denzel Washington stuff is very recently all over YT despite the events happening more than 10 years ago, which makes me think that anecdote is being spread by bots somehow… because why are people currently talking about it. Especially when reviewing the Washington clip makes it clear he was being sarcastic/funny in the described incident. It just all reads as very much an intentional smear job.

It’s hard to think of another celebrity who has more racist incidents over the years than Blake lively. And you think Ryan is just married to this racist, but isn’t what himself? Doesn’t quite add up.

It’s just weird optics that Ryan is one of the most powerful celebs in Hollywood - or at least was in the last 15 years or so, and all of his controversies onset seem to involve POC.

And the fact that he just dissolved a Boone hall LLC earlier this month after Reddit sleuths reported on it is also off. Especially since he came out and denounced the wedding so many years ago.

But look at the episodes the article actually discusses. One is primarily a *different* actor's spat with a POC actor that he was only tangentially involved in. One is the tragic death of a POC stunt person that he doesn't appear to have had anything to do with and which there is NO allegation was racially based. One is not actually a spat at all -- Denzel Washington was being sarcastic and (at worst) thought he was a bad actor (compared to Denzel, I have no doubt he was). Like none of these are actually RR having spats with POCs. THAT is the issue with the article.

Now, does this mean RR isn't racist? Of course not. And then Boone Hall + wedding venue things are legit, but the rest of this article as it relates to RR is totally sloppy agenda-driven journalism and JB supporters aren't helping themselves to pretend its not. It's clearly a hit piece; hopefully not directly linked to JB's people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I still don’t understand how his wife legs were spread apart and she thinks that’s p$&n but they’re is not a baby coming out or crowning? It was a water birth. Do they have underwater cameras? People throw these terms around like they know what happened but it just doesn’t make sense that that was happening.

It also sounded like they were having a meal together and discussing the scene. He didn’t just come up to her and whip it out.

Blake was trying to put together a random list of things and hoping that the pattern would show SH.

And if you don’t think race has anything to do with it, you haven’t been paying attention. This is the same woman who would regularly breast-feed in front of other colleagues, but when she invited Heath in for a meeting, she made him face the wall. Other option, Blake, would be to go to the regular scheduled meeting that other producers went to, but you thought you didn’t have time for so you are making people come into your trailer while you were multitasking because your time is clearly more important than anyone else’s.

It is worth noting that Heath wasn't a colleague and she didn't know him. I breastfed in front of friends and family regularly, but would never have done it in front of a stranger or business-related acquaintance. I don't think that's weird at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I still don’t understand how his wife legs were spread apart and she thinks that’s p$&n but they’re is not a baby coming out or crowning? It was a water birth. Do they have underwater cameras? People throw these terms around like they know what happened but it just doesn’t make sense that that was happening.

It also sounded like they were having a meal together and discussing the scene. He didn’t just come up to her and whip it out.

Blake was trying to put together a random list of things and hoping that the pattern would show SH.

And if you don’t think race has anything to do with it, you haven’t been paying attention. This is the same woman who would regularly breast-feed in front of other colleagues, but when she invited Heath in for a meeting, she made him face the wall. Other option, Blake, would be to go to the regular scheduled meeting that other producers went to, but you thought you didn’t have time for so you are making people come into your trailer while you were multitasking because your time is clearly more important than anyone else’s.

What a reach. Being black doesn't make it OK to act like an ass at work.

But if you are a white lady who got married in front of slave quarters on a plantation and had a lifestyle brand about the antebellum South and when a black man pulls out his phone to show you something and you run to the New York Times and let people believe that he showed you porn on his phone….The optics of that don’t look good. I don’t make the rules. Shrug. Go on any public forum about Blake lively and you will see people are upset about this. She is a crisis communications firm’s dream.

Wayfarer was sued for discrimination but you don't seem outraged like that. Why not since you seem to care very much about optics?

[Anonymous]

The angry tag team duo is back. Lively is a racist and gets offended by lots of innocuous things. Get huffy all you want but it doesn't change anything. Nice try too for Reynolds/Lively throwing out PR pieces about date-night hair, Trader Joe's photo op, son supposedly loved Green Lantern and my favorite that Reynolds always wanted to be in control of movies he is in. They are manipulative, mean-spirited people and the mask has fallen. They do always have the dynamic duo fervently defending them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The angry tag team duo is back. Lively is a racist and gets offended by lots of innocuous things. Get huffy all you want but it doesn't change anything. Nice try too for Reynolds/Lively throwing out PR pieces about date-night hair, Trader Joe's photo op, son supposedly loved Green Lantern and my favorite that Reynolds always wanted to be in control of movies he is in. They are manipulative, mean-spirited people and the mask has fallen. They do always have the dynamic duo fervently defending them.

Selective outrage I see.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The angry tag team duo is back. Lively is a racist and gets offended by lots of innocuous things. Get huffy all you want but it doesn't change anything. Nice try too for Reynolds/Lively throwing out PR pieces about date-night hair, Trader Joe's photo op, son supposedly loved Green Lantern and my favorite that Reynolds always wanted to be in control of movies he is in. They are manipulative, mean-spirited people and the mask has fallen. They do always have the dynamic duo fervently defending them.

Selective outrage I see.

Nope, wasn't the PP you were trying to bait. I do think selective outrage applies to you though. And your tag-team buddy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The angry tag team duo is back. Lively is a racist and gets offended by lots of innocuous things. Get huffy all you want but it doesn't change anything. Nice try too for Reynolds/Lively throwing out PR pieces about date-night hair, Trader Joe's photo op, son supposedly loved Green Lantern and my favorite that Reynolds always wanted to be in control of movies he is in. They are manipulative, mean-spirited people and the mask has fallen. They do always have the dynamic duo fervently defending them.

Selective outrage I see.

Nope, wasn't the PP you were trying to bait. I do think selective outrage applies to you though. And your tag-team buddy

The outrage is clearly on the list making PP's side. Too bad nobody cares or is even following this case anymore except you and your buddy who bump it up every once in awhile to talk about how much you hate Blake when nothing new is happening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I still don’t understand how his wife legs were spread apart and she thinks that’s p$&n but they’re is not a baby coming out or crowning? It was a water birth. Do they have underwater cameras? People throw these terms around like they know what happened but it just doesn’t make sense that that was happening.

It also sounded like they were having a meal together and discussing the scene. He didn’t just come up to her and whip it out.

Blake was trying to put together a random list of things and hoping that the pattern would show SH.

And if you don’t think race has anything to do with it, you haven’t been paying attention. This is the same woman who would regularly breast-feed in front of other colleagues, but when she invited Heath in for a meeting, she made him face the wall. Other option, Blake, would be to go to the regular scheduled meeting that other producers went to, but you thought you didn’t have time for so you are making people come into your trailer while you were multitasking because your time is clearly more important than anyone else’s.

It is worth noting that Heath wasn't a colleague and she didn't know him. I breastfed in front of friends and family regularly, but would never have done it in front of a stranger or business-related acquaintance. I don't think that's weird at all.

Lively and Heath were both producers on the film. Heath has a leadership role in Wayfarer, who is producing the film that lively is starring in. Of course they were colleagues. Why was she having a work lunch with him and her assistant if he wasn’t a colleague?

If these are the only arguments livelys people have left, you know it’s getting really bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I still don’t understand how his wife legs were spread apart and she thinks that’s p$&n but they’re is not a baby coming out or crowning? It was a water birth. Do they have underwater cameras? People throw these terms around like they know what happened but it just doesn’t make sense that that was happening.

It also sounded like they were having a meal together and discussing the scene. He didn’t just come up to her and whip it out.

Blake was trying to put together a random list of things and hoping that the pattern would show SH.

And if you don’t think race has anything to do with it, you haven’t been paying attention. This is the same woman who would regularly breast-feed in front of other colleagues, but when she invited Heath in for a meeting, she made him face the wall. Other option, Blake, would be to go to the regular scheduled meeting that other producers went to, but you thought you didn’t have time for so you are making people come into your trailer while you were multitasking because your time is clearly more important than anyone else’s.

What a reach. Being black doesn't make it OK to act like an ass at work.

But if you are a white lady who got married in front of slave quarters on a plantation and had a lifestyle brand about the antebellum South and when a black man pulls out his phone to show you something and you run to the New York Times and let people believe that he showed you porn on his phone….The optics of that don’t look good. I don’t make the rules. Shrug. Go on any public forum about Blake lively and you will see people are upset about this. She is a crisis communications firm’s dream.

Wayfarer was sued for discrimination but you don't seem outraged like that. Why not since you seem to care very much about optics?

All the Hollywood Studios have been sued. Yawn. At least they didn’t let a person of color die on their set like Ryan did and then refused to admit any mistakes or settle with a family until public pressure was mounting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The angry tag team duo is back. Lively is a racist and gets offended by lots of innocuous things. Get huffy all you want but it doesn't change anything. Nice try too for Reynolds/Lively throwing out PR pieces about date-night hair, Trader Joe's photo op, son supposedly loved Green Lantern and my favorite that Reynolds always wanted to be in control of movies he is in. They are manipulative, mean-spirited people and the mask has fallen. They do always have the dynamic duo fervently defending them.

Selective outrage I see.

Nope, wasn't the PP you were trying to bait. I do think selective outrage applies to you though. And your tag-team buddy

The outrage is clearly on the list making PP's side. Too bad nobody cares or is even following this case anymore except you and your buddy who bump it up every once in awhile to talk about how much you hate Blake when nothing new is happening.

As opposed to the hundreds of pages spent exaggerating the allegations in the complaint. We’re in the midst of dispositive motion briefing and new exhibits are unsealed every few days.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The angry tag team duo is back. Lively is a racist and gets offended by lots of innocuous things. Get huffy all you want but it doesn't change anything. Nice try too for Reynolds/Lively throwing out PR pieces about date-night hair, Trader Joe's photo op, son supposedly loved Green Lantern and my favorite that Reynolds always wanted to be in control of movies he is in. They are manipulative, mean-spirited people and the mask has fallen. They do always have the dynamic duo fervently defending them.

Selective outrage I see.

Nope, wasn't the PP you were trying to bait. I do think selective outrage applies to you though. And your tag-team buddy

The outrage is clearly on the list making PP's side. Too bad nobody cares or is even following this case anymore except you and your buddy who bump it up every once in awhile to talk about how much you hate Blake when nothing new is happening.

As opposed to the hundreds of pages spent exaggerating the allegations in the complaint. We’re in the midst of dispositive motion briefing and new exhibits are unsealed every few days.

So why are you digging up the past again and again? This case is a snooze.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I still don’t understand how his wife legs were spread apart and she thinks that’s p$&n but they’re is not a baby coming out or crowning? It was a water birth. Do they have underwater cameras? People throw these terms around like they know what happened but it just doesn’t make sense that that was happening.

It also sounded like they were having a meal together and discussing the scene. He didn’t just come up to her and whip it out.

Blake was trying to put together a random list of things and hoping that the pattern would show SH.

And if you don’t think race has anything to do with it, you haven’t been paying attention. This is the same woman who would regularly breast-feed in front of other colleagues, but when she invited Heath in for a meeting, she made him face the wall. Other option, Blake, would be to go to the regular scheduled meeting that other producers went to, but you thought you didn’t have time for so you are making people come into your trailer while you were multitasking because your time is clearly more important than anyone else’s.

It is worth noting that Heath wasn't a colleague and she didn't know him. I breastfed in front of friends and family regularly, but would never have done it in front of a stranger or business-related acquaintance. I don't think that's weird at all.

Lively and Heath were both producers on the film. Heath has a leadership role in Wayfarer, who is producing the film that lively is starring in. Of course they were colleagues. Why was she having a work lunch with him and her assistant if he wasn’t a colleague?

If these are the only arguments livelys people have left, you know it’s getting really bad.

Agree Heath and Lively were colleagues.

But Heath was not "having lunch" with Lively and her assistant. The production was on a lunch break between shooting scenes (meaning everyone was having lunch from craft services). Heath and Baldoni were actually eating together and discussing the birth scene, which had already been shot. Baldoni suggested to Heath that Heath show Lively the video of Heath's wife's home birth, as they both agreed Lively might not be familiar with that kind of birth experience.

Heath then immediately went and found Lively, who was with her assistant, and attempted to show her the video. Lively objected.

This is based on the timeline submitted by Wayfarer early in the case. It is annoying to me that I remember these details because OMG there are better things I could be doing with those brain cells, but there it is.

[Anonymous]

I agree this case has gotten boring but there is some interesting stuff coming out as a lot of discovery docs are being unsealed. For instance, this is a timeline Jamey Heath and Wayfarer put together at the end of July 2024, detailing all the issues through pre-production, production, and post-production. I found it interesting to skim and there are some things that were definitely new to me, like the timeline on when Colleen Hoover shifted to Blake's side when the film was in the screening process, and the involvement of Brendan Sklenar in that process (in fact the timeline says that Colleen and Blake had never met prior to Colleen attending a screening of Blake's cut of the film at Book Bonanza, which I was pretty surprised to learn).

I also was interested to see the audience scores from all the screenings, which tell a more nuanced story than what I'd previously understood. The movie was screened four times, but it appears three different versions were screened. These were the results:

#1, Baldoni's cut: 76%
#2, Baldoni's cut: 86%
#3, Blake's cut: 83%
#4, Blake's second cut, which Wayfare says incorporated "most" of what they had wanted anyway: 81%

I actually work with surveys for a living and would argue that this data is fairly useless because it was 4 different audiences and there's going to be a movement in those numbers no matter what, even if you screened the exact same cut four times. But it's notable that Baldoni's cut received both the lowest and highest audience rating, and that Blake's original cut scored higher than the Final Cut which apparently incorporated more of what Baldoni wanted in it.

If I had to draw conclusions based on that, I would suggest that either cut was going to play fairly well with audiences, but that Baldoni's original cut was potentially more divisive because it got that outlier 76% in the initial screening. I'd be inclined to go with either Blake's original cut or the compromise cut from screening #4 (which is what was released) out of concern that Baldoni's cut might be tun off some viewers, even though it also scored reasonably well with an average score of 81%.

Anyway, here's the timeline, it's got a bunch of other stuff in there in case anyone else wants to go hunting for something to talk about: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304.874.17.pdf