FCPS comprehensive boundary review

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't even live in that area but I can read a map.

The Virginia Run school zone is the closest residenial area to Westfield, which is located in a mostly non-walkable industrial area. It seems to be one of the only residential areas anywhere close to Westfield.

The Poplar Tree zone is literally walkable to Rocky Run Ms and Chantilly HS.

Why on earth would the SB move either of these areas?

Are some of you this dumb or do you have some ulterior motive in making these bizzare suggestions? Look at a map.

That came from a boundary adjustment. They added all those "transient" homes to Virginia Run not too long ago. It wasn't always like that. Maybe shift Virginia Run's boundaries and send them to Centreville. That would allow room at Westfield for Chantilly kids.

What MS are you moving to Westfields? Franklin or Rocky Run? Both are full of kids who literally walk to school. Why would the school start busing them elsewhere when there's a huge bus shortage? That makes zero sense. Use the existing buses and to move the kids who already bus, just drive 'em in the other direction. How is this hard?

Its Westfield. No s. Jesus people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So to summarize:

Herndon/Great Falls parents zoned for Langley want to make sure they stay at Langley by filling up Herndon HS with kids from outside of Herndon.

Chantilly HS is overcrowded and can't be expanded but Chantilly HS parents do not want to be moved to any other HS.

Centreville HS is overcrowded and due for a renovation that hasn't begun yet.

Westfield HS is mediocre and no one wants their kids moved there, but the Westfield parents also don't want to add even more kids b/c it is already enormous (and I agree, 2700+ is beyond the size of a reasonable HS).

There are hundreds of extra seats at Langley (2100) and at Herndon HS (2300), but these schools are full to overcrowded: South Lakes (2450), Oakton (2600), Chantilly (3000), Centreville (2400), Westfield (2700).

Questions: Why does Langley have so few students? Is the building incredibly small?

Langley has almost 2200 students, not 2100. The building was recently expanded and has a program capacity of 2338.

It has a huge catchment area because the residential neighborhoods generally have large lots, the population trends older, and many people who do have school-age kids send them to privates.

Given its location in the northeastern corner of the county, it probably should be one of the smallest schools in the county, but it is not. When Jeff Platenberg was the head of facilities, he tried to expand every school coming up for renovation, including Langley. The benefit is that some schools got expanded when construction costs were lower. The downside is that filing up a school like Langley requires redistricting, kids commuting long distances and/or reliance on pupil placements.

They will probably move more of McLean there and then send Forestville to Herndon. That might not be required based simply on capacity, but they also seem committed to reducing commuting times and Forestville is much closer to Herndon than to Langley. Plus, redistricting part of Langley would underscore that every pyramid is being affected.

The official number of students for Langley last year was 2127.

So it was recently renovated and has room for 211 more students.

According to the 2020 boundary study the Spring Hill attendance island is around 275 students and growing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So to summarize:

Herndon/Great Falls parents zoned for Langley want to make sure they stay at Langley by filling up Herndon HS with kids from outside of Herndon.

Chantilly HS is overcrowded and can't be expanded but Chantilly HS parents do not want to be moved to any other HS.

Centreville HS is overcrowded and due for a renovation that hasn't begun yet.

Westfield HS is mediocre and no one wants their kids moved there, but the Westfield parents also don't want to add even more kids b/c it is already enormous (and I agree, 2700+ is beyond the size of a reasonable HS).

There are hundreds of extra seats at Langley (2100) and at Herndon HS (2300), but these schools are full to overcrowded: South Lakes (2450), Oakton (2600), Chantilly (3000), Centreville (2400), Westfield (2700).

Questions: Why does Langley have so few students? Is the building incredibly small?

Langley has almost 2200 students, not 2100. The building was recently expanded and has a program capacity of 2338.

It has a huge catchment area because the residential neighborhoods generally have large lots, the population trends older, and many people who do have school-age kids send them to privates.

Given its location in the northeastern corner of the county, it probably should be one of the smallest schools in the county, but it is not. When Jeff Platenberg was the head of facilities, he tried to expand every school coming up for renovation, including Langley. The benefit is that some schools got expanded when construction costs were lower. The downside is that filing up a school like Langley requires redistricting, kids commuting long distances and/or reliance on pupil placements.

They will probably move more of McLean there and then send Forestville to Herndon. That might not be required based simply on capacity, but they also seem committed to reducing commuting times and Forestville is much closer to Herndon than to Langley. Plus, redistricting part of Langley would underscore that every pyramid is being affected.

The official number of students for Langley last year was 2127.

So it was recently renovated and has room for 211 more students.

According to the 2020 boundary study the Spring Hill attendance island is around 275 students and growing.

Option C in the study would have assigned all of the island then at Spring Hill/Longfellow/McLean to Copper/Langley and projected 240 students would be moved. As it turned out, part of the island (the single family houses in Vienna) was moved and the apartments in Tysons were left at McLean. So unless you’re factoring in additional growth the 275 number seems high. I think the remaining island would be closer to 180 kids than 275.

If you move that island to Langley and eliminated the pupil placements to Langley it is probably around full capacity but not overcrowded.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So to summarize:

Herndon/Great Falls parents zoned for Langley want to make sure they stay at Langley by filling up Herndon HS with kids from outside of Herndon.

Chantilly HS is overcrowded and can't be expanded but Chantilly HS parents do not want to be moved to any other HS.

Centreville HS is overcrowded and due for a renovation that hasn't begun yet.

Westfield HS is mediocre and no one wants their kids moved there, but the Westfield parents also don't want to add even more kids b/c it is already enormous (and I agree, 2700+ is beyond the size of a reasonable HS).

There are hundreds of extra seats at Langley (2100) and at Herndon HS (2300), but these schools are full to overcrowded: South Lakes (2450), Oakton (2600), Chantilly (3000), Centreville (2400), Westfield (2700).

Questions: Why does Langley have so few students? Is the building incredibly small?

Langley has almost 2200 students, not 2100. The building was recently expanded and has a program capacity of 2338.

It has a huge catchment area because the residential neighborhoods generally have large lots, the population trends older, and many people who do have school-age kids send them to privates.

Given its location in the northeastern corner of the county, it probably should be one of the smallest schools in the county, but it is not. When Jeff Platenberg was the head of facilities, he tried to expand every school coming up for renovation, including Langley. The benefit is that some schools got expanded when construction costs were lower. The downside is that filing up a school like Langley requires redistricting, kids commuting long distances and/or reliance on pupil placements.

They will probably move more of McLean there and then send Forestville to Herndon. That might not be required based simply on capacity, but they also seem committed to reducing commuting times and Forestville is much closer to Herndon than to Langley. Plus, redistricting part of Langley would underscore that every pyramid is being affected.

The official number of students for Langley last year was 2127.

So it was recently renovated and has room for 211 more students.

According to the 2020 boundary study the Spring Hill attendance island is around 275 students and growing.

Option C in the study would have assigned all of the island then at Spring Hill/Longfellow/McLean to Copper/Langley and projected 240 students would be moved. As it turned out, part of the island (the single family houses in Vienna) was moved and the apartments in Tysons were left at McLean. So unless you’re factoring in additional growth the 275 number seems high. I think the remaining island would be closer to 180 kids than 275.

If you move that island to Langley and eliminated the pupil placements to Langley it is probably around full capacity but not overcrowded.

I calculate around 180 too. And i agree you can back into their exact number with the different options.

Not sure where that 275 inflated number is coming from, but it sure seems agenda-laden.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So to summarize:

Herndon/Great Falls parents zoned for Langley want to make sure they stay at Langley by filling up Herndon HS with kids from outside of Herndon.

Chantilly HS is overcrowded and can't be expanded but Chantilly HS parents do not want to be moved to any other HS.

Centreville HS is overcrowded and due for a renovation that hasn't begun yet.

Westfield HS is mediocre and no one wants their kids moved there, but the Westfield parents also don't want to add even more kids b/c it is already enormous (and I agree, 2700+ is beyond the size of a reasonable HS).

There are hundreds of extra seats at Langley (2100) and at Herndon HS (2300), but these schools are full to overcrowded: South Lakes (2450), Oakton (2600), Chantilly (3000), Centreville (2400), Westfield (2700).

Questions: Why does Langley have so few students? Is the building incredibly small?

Langley has almost 2200 students, not 2100. The building was recently expanded and has a program capacity of 2338.

It has a huge catchment area because the residential neighborhoods generally have large lots, the population trends older, and many people who do have school-age kids send them to privates.

Given its location in the northeastern corner of the county, it probably should be one of the smallest schools in the county, but it is not. When Jeff Platenberg was the head of facilities, he tried to expand every school coming up for renovation, including Langley. The benefit is that some schools got expanded when construction costs were lower. The downside is that filing up a school like Langley requires redistricting, kids commuting long distances and/or reliance on pupil placements.

They will probably move more of McLean there and then send Forestville to Herndon. That might not be required based simply on capacity, but they also seem committed to reducing commuting times and Forestville is much closer to Herndon than to Langley. Plus, redistricting part of Langley would underscore that every pyramid is being affected.

The official number of students for Langley last year was 2127.

So it was recently renovated and has room for 211 more students.

According to the 2020 boundary study the Spring Hill attendance island is around 275 students and growing.

Option C in the study would have assigned all of the island then at Spring Hill/Longfellow/McLean to Copper/Langley and projected 240 students would be moved. As it turned out, part of the island (the single family houses in Vienna) was moved and the apartments in Tysons were left at McLean. So unless you’re factoring in additional growth the 275 number seems high. I think the remaining island would be closer to 180 kids than 275.

If you move that island to Langley and eliminated the pupil placements to Langley it is probably around full capacity but not overcrowded.

I calculate around 180 too. And i agree you can back into their exact number with the different options.

Not sure where that 275 inflated number is coming from, but it sure seems agenda-laden.

PS, actually the membership came in lower than expected, so you don’t even need to get rid of pupil placements and Langley wouldn’t be overcrowded.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So to summarize:

Herndon/Great Falls parents zoned for Langley want to make sure they stay at Langley by filling up Herndon HS with kids from outside of Herndon.

Chantilly HS is overcrowded and can't be expanded but Chantilly HS parents do not want to be moved to any other HS.

Centreville HS is overcrowded and due for a renovation that hasn't begun yet.

Westfield HS is mediocre and no one wants their kids moved there, but the Westfield parents also don't want to add even more kids b/c it is already enormous (and I agree, 2700+ is beyond the size of a reasonable HS).

There are hundreds of extra seats at Langley (2100) and at Herndon HS (2300), but these schools are full to overcrowded: South Lakes (2450), Oakton (2600), Chantilly (3000), Centreville (2400), Westfield (2700).

Questions: Why does Langley have so few students? Is the building incredibly small?

Langley has almost 2200 students, not 2100. The building was recently expanded and has a program capacity of 2338.

It has a huge catchment area because the residential neighborhoods generally have large lots, the population trends older, and many people who do have school-age kids send them to privates.

Given its location in the northeastern corner of the county, it probably should be one of the smallest schools in the county, but it is not. When Jeff Platenberg was the head of facilities, he tried to expand every school coming up for renovation, including Langley. The benefit is that some schools got expanded when construction costs were lower. The downside is that filing up a school like Langley requires redistricting, kids commuting long distances and/or reliance on pupil placements.

They will probably move more of McLean there and then send Forestville to Herndon. That might not be required based simply on capacity, but they also seem committed to reducing commuting times and Forestville is much closer to Herndon than to Langley. Plus, redistricting part of Langley would underscore that every pyramid is being affected.

The official number of students for Langley last year was 2127.

So it was recently renovated and has room for 211 more students.

According to the 2020 boundary study the Spring Hill attendance island is around 275 students and growing.

Option C in the study would have assigned all of the island then at Spring Hill/Longfellow/McLean to Copper/Langley and projected 240 students would be moved. As it turned out, part of the island (the single family houses in Vienna) was moved and the apartments in Tysons were left at McLean. So unless you’re factoring in additional growth the 275 number seems high. I think the remaining island would be closer to 180 kids than 275.

If you move that island to Langley and eliminated the pupil placements to Langley it is probably around full capacity but not overcrowded.

I calculate around 180 too. And i agree you can back into their exact number with the different options.

Not sure where that 275 inflated number is coming from, but it sure seems agenda-laden.

I was using the 2024-25 projections column, which would have been preformed pre-Covid. My bad. Looks like Spring Hill enrollment is in closer to the 2019 enrollment, which would be closer to that 180 number.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Create middle school split feeders to alleviate the Chantilly overcrowding. It sucks, but FCPS has them all over the county. Keep the MS assignments the same and change the HS.

I think part of the point of the redistricting is to GET RID OF SPLIT FEEDERS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So to summarize:

Herndon/Great Falls parents zoned for Langley want to make sure they stay at Langley by filling up Herndon HS with kids from outside of Herndon.

Chantilly HS is overcrowded and can't be expanded but Chantilly HS parents do not want to be moved to any other HS.

Centreville HS is overcrowded and due for a renovation that hasn't begun yet.

Westfield HS is mediocre and no one wants their kids moved there, but the Westfield parents also don't want to add even more kids b/c it is already enormous (and I agree, 2700+ is beyond the size of a reasonable HS).

There are hundreds of extra seats at Langley (2100) and at Herndon HS (2300), but these schools are full to overcrowded: South Lakes (2450), Oakton (2600), Chantilly (3000), Centreville (2400), Westfield (2700).

Questions: Why does Langley have so few students? Is the building incredibly small?

Langley has almost 2200 students, not 2100. The building was recently expanded and has a program capacity of 2338.

It has a huge catchment area because the residential neighborhoods generally have large lots, the population trends older, and many people who do have school-age kids send them to privates.

Given its location in the northeastern corner of the county, it probably should be one of the smallest schools in the county, but it is not. When Jeff Platenberg was the head of facilities, he tried to expand every school coming up for renovation, including Langley. The benefit is that some schools got expanded when construction costs were lower. The downside is that filing up a school like Langley requires redistricting, kids commuting long distances and/or reliance on pupil placements.

They will probably move more of McLean there and then send Forestville to Herndon. That might not be required based simply on capacity, but they also seem committed to reducing commuting times and Forestville is much closer to Herndon than to Langley. Plus, redistricting part of Langley would underscore that every pyramid is being affected.

I really don’t think they’ll move all of Forestville to Herndon. At best, they’ll move those with Herndon and Reston addresses to Herndon and South Lakes to reduce redundant bus routes and put a big sticker on fulfilling their cause.

McLean and Marshall both have immediate neighbors to offload students, whereas the western half of the county can use all the high school seats they can get.

If Langley looses Forestville, it’ll need to pick up another elementary school. And I don’t see that happening until Tysons ES is built someday.

+1. The only way Forestville gets moved is if the board wants to punish certain residents for living in a particular zip code. There is room at Langley for the attendance island

I don’t think they see it as punishment to reassign kids to schools closer to their homes. Reid said these boundary changes will be “transformational” so prepare to be transformed.

What a bizarre thing to say.

When you say closer to home, you mean as the crow flies, not commute time, in which there is a negligible difference between the two schools.

No one buys your BS any longer, and the only thing that’s negligible is the impact it will have on FCPS’s decisions.

Such hatred for your neighbors. I understand you’re grasping at straws, but the commute time argument just isn’t compelling. For instance, at the Glasgow meeting yesterday, multiple tables said that it isn’t just commute time it’s also large roads that divide communities- rte 50 in their instance, 7 in the case of Forestville.

What pyramid are you in and why do you seethe about this and focus do much on moving other people’s kids?

Pretty gross.

+1
Notice, the PP (and others) will never, ever tell you where their own kids go to school. So transparent.

Oh my gosh, you're like a broken record. Shut up about this already.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't even live in that area but I can read a map.

The Virginia Run school zone is the closest residenial area to Westfield, which is located in a mostly non-walkable industrial area. It seems to be one of the only residential areas anywhere close to Westfield.

The Poplar Tree zone is literally walkable to Rocky Run Ms and Chantilly HS.

Why on earth would the SB move either of these areas?

Are some of you this dumb or do you have some ulterior motive in making these bizzare suggestions? Look at a map.

That came from a boundary adjustment. They added all those "transient" homes to Virginia Run not too long ago. It wasn't always like that. Maybe shift Virginia Run's boundaries and send them to Centreville. That would allow room at Westfield for Chantilly kids.

What MS are you moving to Westfields? Franklin or Rocky Run? Both are full of kids who literally walk to school. Why would the school start busing them elsewhere when there's a huge bus shortage? That makes zero sense. Use the existing buses and to move the kids who already bus, just drive 'em in the other direction. How is this hard?

Its Westfield. No s. Jesus people.

What?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So to summarize:

Herndon/Great Falls parents zoned for Langley want to make sure they stay at Langley by filling up Herndon HS with kids from outside of Herndon.

Chantilly HS is overcrowded and can't be expanded but Chantilly HS parents do not want to be moved to any other HS.

Centreville HS is overcrowded and due for a renovation that hasn't begun yet.

Westfield HS is mediocre and no one wants their kids moved there, but the Westfield parents also don't want to add even more kids b/c it is already enormous (and I agree, 2700+ is beyond the size of a reasonable HS).

There are hundreds of extra seats at Langley (2100) and at Herndon HS (2300), but these schools are full to overcrowded: South Lakes (2450), Oakton (2600), Chantilly (3000), Centreville (2400), Westfield (2700).

Questions: Why does Langley have so few students? Is the building incredibly small?

Langley has almost 2200 students, not 2100. The building was recently expanded and has a program capacity of 2338.

It has a huge catchment area because the residential neighborhoods generally have large lots, the population trends older, and many people who do have school-age kids send them to privates.

Given its location in the northeastern corner of the county, it probably should be one of the smallest schools in the county, but it is not. When Jeff Platenberg was the head of facilities, he tried to expand every school coming up for renovation, including Langley. The benefit is that some schools got expanded when construction costs were lower. The downside is that filing up a school like Langley requires redistricting, kids commuting long distances and/or reliance on pupil placements.

They will probably move more of McLean there and then send Forestville to Herndon. That might not be required based simply on capacity, but they also seem committed to reducing commuting times and Forestville is much closer to Herndon than to Langley. Plus, redistricting part of Langley would underscore that every pyramid is being affected.

I really don’t think they’ll move all of Forestville to Herndon. At best, they’ll move those with Herndon and Reston addresses to Herndon and South Lakes to reduce redundant bus routes and put a big sticker on fulfilling their cause.

McLean and Marshall both have immediate neighbors to offload students, whereas the western half of the county can use all the high school seats they can get.

If Langley looses Forestville, it’ll need to pick up another elementary school. And I don’t see that happening until Tysons ES is built someday.

+1. The only way Forestville gets moved is if the board wants to punish certain residents for living in a particular zip code. There is room at Langley for the attendance island

I don’t think they see it as punishment to reassign kids to schools closer to their homes. Reid said these boundary changes will be “transformational” so prepare to be transformed.

What a bizarre thing to say.

When you say closer to home, you mean as the crow flies, not commute time, in which there is a negligible difference between the two schools.

No one buys your BS any longer, and the only thing that’s negligible is the impact it will have on FCPS’s decisions.

Such hatred for your neighbors. I understand you’re grasping at straws, but the commute time argument just isn’t compelling. For instance, at the Glasgow meeting yesterday, multiple tables said that it isn’t just commute time it’s also large roads that divide communities- rte 50 in their instance, 7 in the case of Forestville.

What pyramid are you in and why do you seethe about this and focus do much on moving other people’s kids?

Pretty gross.

+1
Notice, the PP (and others) will never, ever tell you where their own kids go to school. So transparent.

Oh my gosh, you're like a broken record. Shut up about this already.

DP. Seems relevant. I like when she asks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't even live in that area but I can read a map.

The Virginia Run school zone is the closest residenial area to Westfield, which is located in a mostly non-walkable industrial area. It seems to be one of the only residential areas anywhere close to Westfield.

The Poplar Tree zone is literally walkable to Rocky Run Ms and Chantilly HS.

Why on earth would the SB move either of these areas?

Are some of you this dumb or do you have some ulterior motive in making these bizzare suggestions? Look at a map.

That came from a boundary adjustment. They added all those "transient" homes to Virginia Run not too long ago. It wasn't always like that. Maybe shift Virginia Run's boundaries and send them to Centreville. That would allow room at Westfield for Chantilly kids.

What MS are you moving to Westfields? Franklin or Rocky Run? Both are full of kids who literally walk to school. Why would the school start busing them elsewhere when there's a huge bus shortage? That makes zero sense. Use the existing buses and to move the kids who already bus, just drive 'em in the other direction. How is this hard?

Its Westfield. No s. Jesus people.

They can't WALK to Westfields like they WALK to Chantilly. No way they're making more kids ride a bus that A.) Doesn't exist. B.) Doesn't have a driver.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't even live in that area but I can read a map.

The Virginia Run school zone is the closest residenial area to Westfield, which is located in a mostly non-walkable industrial area. It seems to be one of the only residential areas anywhere close to Westfield.

The Poplar Tree zone is literally walkable to Rocky Run Ms and Chantilly HS.

Why on earth would the SB move either of these areas?

Are some of you this dumb or do you have some ulterior motive in making these bizzare suggestions? Look at a map.

That came from a boundary adjustment. They added all those "transient" homes to Virginia Run not too long ago. It wasn't always like that. Maybe shift Virginia Run's boundaries and send them to Centreville. That would allow room at Westfield for Chantilly kids.

What MS are you moving to Westfields? Franklin or Rocky Run? Both are full of kids who literally walk to school. Why would the school start busing them elsewhere when there's a huge bus shortage? That makes zero sense. Use the existing buses and to move the kids who already bus, just drive 'em in the other direction. How is this hard?

Its Westfield. No s. Jesus people.

What?

DP. One poster kept referring to Westfields when it’s Westfield (HS).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So to summarize:

Herndon/Great Falls parents zoned for Langley want to make sure they stay at Langley by filling up Herndon HS with kids from outside of Herndon.

Chantilly HS is overcrowded and can't be expanded but Chantilly HS parents do not want to be moved to any other HS.

Centreville HS is overcrowded and due for a renovation that hasn't begun yet.

Westfield HS is mediocre and no one wants their kids moved there, but the Westfield parents also don't want to add even more kids b/c it is already enormous (and I agree, 2700+ is beyond the size of a reasonable HS).

There are hundreds of extra seats at Langley (2100) and at Herndon HS (2300), but these schools are full to overcrowded: South Lakes (2450), Oakton (2600), Chantilly (3000), Centreville (2400), Westfield (2700).

Questions: Why does Langley have so few students? Is the building incredibly small?

Langley has almost 2200 students, not 2100. The building was recently expanded and has a program capacity of 2338.

It has a huge catchment area because the residential neighborhoods generally have large lots, the population trends older, and many people who do have school-age kids send them to privates.

Given its location in the northeastern corner of the county, it probably should be one of the smallest schools in the county, but it is not. When Jeff Platenberg was the head of facilities, he tried to expand every school coming up for renovation, including Langley. The benefit is that some schools got expanded when construction costs were lower. The downside is that filing up a school like Langley requires redistricting, kids commuting long distances and/or reliance on pupil placements.

They will probably move more of McLean there and then send Forestville to Herndon. That might not be required based simply on capacity, but they also seem committed to reducing commuting times and Forestville is much closer to Herndon than to Langley. Plus, redistricting part of Langley would underscore that every pyramid is being affected.

I really don’t think they’ll move all of Forestville to Herndon. At best, they’ll move those with Herndon and Reston addresses to Herndon and South Lakes to reduce redundant bus routes and put a big sticker on fulfilling their cause.

McLean and Marshall both have immediate neighbors to offload students, whereas the western half of the county can use all the high school seats they can get.

If Langley looses Forestville, it’ll need to pick up another elementary school. And I don’t see that happening until Tysons ES is built someday.

+1. The only way Forestville gets moved is if the board wants to punish certain residents for living in a particular zip code. There is room at Langley for the attendance island

I don’t think they see it as punishment to reassign kids to schools closer to their homes. Reid said these boundary changes will be “transformational” so prepare to be transformed.

What a bizarre thing to say.

When you say closer to home, you mean as the crow flies, not commute time, in which there is a negligible difference between the two schools.

No one buys your BS any longer, and the only thing that’s negligible is the impact it will have on FCPS’s decisions.

Such hatred for your neighbors. I understand you’re grasping at straws, but the commute time argument just isn’t compelling. For instance, at the Glasgow meeting yesterday, multiple tables said that it isn’t just commute time it’s also large roads that divide communities- rte 50 in their instance, 7 in the case of Forestville.

What pyramid are you in and why do you seethe about this and focus do much on moving other people’s kids?

Pretty gross.

+1
Notice, the PP (and others) will never, ever tell you where their own kids go to school. So transparent.

Oh my gosh, you're like a broken record. Shut up about this already.

+1. No one owes that shrew any information.

[Anonymous]

Our friends live near Penderbrook and the kids go to Waples Mill Elementary. Their middle school is Franklin (7 miles), but their high school is Fairfax (5 miles in the other direction). How does that make sense?

Send the Franklin kids who go to Chantilly now to Westfields. There's no way to fix that split feeder MS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So to summarize:

Herndon/Great Falls parents zoned for Langley want to make sure they stay at Langley by filling up Herndon HS with kids from outside of Herndon.

Chantilly HS is overcrowded and can't be expanded but Chantilly HS parents do not want to be moved to any other HS.

Centreville HS is overcrowded and due for a renovation that hasn't begun yet.

Westfield HS is mediocre and no one wants their kids moved there, but the Westfield parents also don't want to add even more kids b/c it is already enormous (and I agree, 2700+ is beyond the size of a reasonable HS).

There are hundreds of extra seats at Langley (2100) and at Herndon HS (2300), but these schools are full to overcrowded: South Lakes (2450), Oakton (2600), Chantilly (3000), Centreville (2400), Westfield (2700).

Questions: Why does Langley have so few students? Is the building incredibly small?

Langley has almost 2200 students, not 2100. The building was recently expanded and has a program capacity of 2338.

It has a huge catchment area because the residential neighborhoods generally have large lots, the population trends older, and many people who do have school-age kids send them to privates.

Given its location in the northeastern corner of the county, it probably should be one of the smallest schools in the county, but it is not. When Jeff Platenberg was the head of facilities, he tried to expand every school coming up for renovation, including Langley. The benefit is that some schools got expanded when construction costs were lower. The downside is that filing up a school like Langley requires redistricting, kids commuting long distances and/or reliance on pupil placements.

They will probably move more of McLean there and then send Forestville to Herndon. That might not be required based simply on capacity, but they also seem committed to reducing commuting times and Forestville is much closer to Herndon than to Langley. Plus, redistricting part of Langley would underscore that every pyramid is being affected.

I really don’t think they’ll move all of Forestville to Herndon. At best, they’ll move those with Herndon and Reston addresses to Herndon and South Lakes to reduce redundant bus routes and put a big sticker on fulfilling their cause.

McLean and Marshall both have immediate neighbors to offload students, whereas the western half of the county can use all the high school seats they can get.

If Langley looses Forestville, it’ll need to pick up another elementary school. And I don’t see that happening until Tysons ES is built someday.

+1. The only way Forestville gets moved is if the board wants to punish certain residents for living in a particular zip code. There is room at Langley for the attendance island

I don’t think they see it as punishment to reassign kids to schools closer to their homes. Reid said these boundary changes will be “transformational” so prepare to be transformed.

What a bizarre thing to say.

When you say closer to home, you mean as the crow flies, not commute time, in which there is a negligible difference between the two schools.

No one buys your BS any longer, and the only thing that’s negligible is the impact it will have on FCPS’s decisions.

Such hatred for your neighbors. I understand you’re grasping at straws, but the commute time argument just isn’t compelling. For instance, at the Glasgow meeting yesterday, multiple tables said that it isn’t just commute time it’s also large roads that divide communities- rte 50 in their instance, 7 in the case of Forestville.

What pyramid are you in and why do you seethe about this and focus do much on moving other people’s kids?

Pretty gross.

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Notice, the PP (and others) will never, ever tell you where their own kids go to school. So transparent.

Oh my gosh, you're like a broken record. Shut up about this already.

+1. No one owes that shrew any information.

I’m not the shrew you reference, but I will say that it’s a relevant question when people attack her kids’ school.

You don’t owe her anything, but you certainly lose credibility when you don’t answer.