Another gunman, another elementary school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
My office building has an armed guard at the entrance.

Why doesn’t my kid’s school have an armed guard at the entrance?

OMG really? Do you understand the $$ it takes to run a school? Who will pay for that?

The basic safety of our school children is my priority. Why isn’t it yours?

[Anonymous]

I am sick reading this

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/05/26/us/texas-elementary-school-shooting/a-texas-town-grieves-its-lost-children-as-details-of-the-gunmans-rampage-emerge?smid=url-share

From the link :

Parents of students who were trapped inside furiously urged the police to storm the school sooner, according to witness accounts. “They were just angry,” said Derek Sotelo, 26, who heard gunfire from his tire shop nearby and followed it to the school. “We were wondering, ‘What the heck is going on? Are they going in?’ The dads were saying, ‘Give me the vest, I’ll go in there!’”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One parent should release the images of their child riddled with bullets. People should not be afraid to see the result of their voting actions.

The image should be displayed as vehicle wraps and large signs that you hold on street corners. If the "crazies" can do it to advocate against abortion, so can concerned citizens.

Americans should eat, sleep, breathe their choices and lack of action.

I agree 100%, PP.

Actually, I’ve been saying this for months…I almost thought I wrote your post.

Show it all. Show the dead children in school. Show the dead senior citizens shopping for strawberries. Show the dead young woman at a music festival.

Show it all.

Make people uncomfortable. Make them face the consequences of their votes (or inaction).

It’s the only way people will be motivated to take action.

[NP]

I am another that agrees with this. The world needs to see what we are allowing to happen here in the United States. That may be the only way we can see change. What a gun can do to a body May actually wake some of these people up

[Anonymous]

Perhaps cops “standing down” is a bad idea after all. I’d consider making it illegal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
My office building has an armed guard at the entrance.

Why doesn’t my kid’s school have an armed guard at the entrance?

OMG really? Do you understand the $$ it takes to run a school? Who will pay for that?

The basic safety of our school children is my priority. Why isn’t it yours?

Because you cannot arm your way to safety. We need to react to mass murder the way Australia and New Zealand and Scotland and you get the point (or if you don't, you're hopeless) did.

The gun manufacturers don't care about freedom. They're running a business, and if the profit were gone, they'd do something else.

The Republicans and DINOs aren't defending freedom -- they just want those campaign contributions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What law would stop killings?

No one?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am sick reading this

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/05/26/us/texas-elementary-school-shooting/a-texas-town-grieves-its-lost-children-as-details-of-the-gunmans-rampage-emerge?smid=url-share

From the link :

Parents of students who were trapped inside furiously urged the police to storm the school sooner, according to witness accounts. “They were just angry,” said Derek Sotelo, 26, who heard gunfire from his tire shop nearby and followed it to the school. “We were wondering, ‘What the heck is going on? Are they going in?’ The dads were saying, ‘Give me the vest, I’ll go in there!’”

Up to an hour. They negotiated for up to an hour while kids and teachers bled to death.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am sick reading this

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/05/26/us/texas-elementary-school-shooting/a-texas-town-grieves-its-lost-children-as-details-of-the-gunmans-rampage-emerge?smid=url-share

From the link :

Parents of students who were trapped inside furiously urged the police to storm the school sooner, according to witness accounts. “They were just angry,” said Derek Sotelo, 26, who heard gunfire from his tire shop nearby and followed it to the school. “We were wondering, ‘What the heck is going on? Are they going in?’ The dads were saying, ‘Give me the vest, I’ll go in there!’”

Up to an hour. They negotiated for up to an hour while kids and teachers bled to death.

Would you agree that “standing down” should be illegal?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What law would stop killings?

No one?

Background checks, waiting periods, banning high capacity magazines, extremely high sales tax on guns (like cigarettes), liability of manufacturers and owners of guns used in crimes.

Guns will never be gone from the US, but we can greatly increase the process of getting one, limiting what is available, assigning liability and taxing them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am sick reading this

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/05/26/us/texas-elementary-school-shooting/a-texas-town-grieves-its-lost-children-as-details-of-the-gunmans-rampage-emerge?smid=url-share

From the link :

Parents of students who were trapped inside furiously urged the police to storm the school sooner, according to witness accounts. “They were just angry,” said Derek Sotelo, 26, who heard gunfire from his tire shop nearby and followed it to the school. “We were wondering, ‘What the heck is going on? Are they going in?’ The dads were saying, ‘Give me the vest, I’ll go in there!’”

Up to an hour. They negotiated for up to an hour while kids and teachers bled to death.

What the hell were they negotiating?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What law would stop killings?

No one?

Background checks, waiting periods, banning high capacity magazines, extremely high sales tax on guns (like cigarettes), liability of manufacturers and owners of guns used in crimes.

Guns will never be gone from the US, but we can greatly increase the process of getting one, limiting what is available, assigning liability and taxing them.

Sounds like you want guns available only to the elites. Why not allow schools to have a highly trained armed guard at the entrance, like I have at my office building? Isn’t the safety of school children as important as my workplace safety?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What law would stop killings?

No one?

Background checks, waiting periods, banning high capacity magazines, extremely high sales tax on guns (like cigarettes), liability of manufacturers and owners of guns used in crimes.

Guns will never be gone from the US, but we can greatly increase the process of getting one, limiting what is available, assigning liability and taxing them.

Banning semi-automatic assault weapons would make a big difference in the death toll. ER doctors have been arguing this for years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am sick reading this

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/05/26/us/texas-elementary-school-shooting/a-texas-town-grieves-its-lost-children-as-details-of-the-gunmans-rampage-emerge?smid=url-share

From the link :

Parents of students who were trapped inside furiously urged the police to storm the school sooner, according to witness accounts. “They were just angry,” said Derek Sotelo, 26, who heard gunfire from his tire shop nearby and followed it to the school. “We were wondering, ‘What the heck is going on? Are they going in?’ The dads were saying, ‘Give me the vest, I’ll go in there!’”

Up to an hour. They negotiated for up to an hour while kids and teachers bled to death.

What the hell were they negotiating?

More from the Washington post. Every time you think this incident cannot become more horrific in the levels of human awfulness and callousness, or does:

“ The new details of how 18-year-old Salvador Ramos was able to kill 19 children and two teachers at Robb Elementary in Uvalde, Tex., on Tuesday, together with cellphone videos and witness accounts of police outside tackling or handcuffing desperate parents who tried to rush into the building, called into question earlier claims by Gov. Greg Abbott (R) that a “quick response” by law enforcement had saved lives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am sick reading this

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/05/26/us/texas-elementary-school-shooting/a-texas-town-grieves-its-lost-children-as-details-of-the-gunmans-rampage-emerge?smid=url-share

From the link :

Parents of students who were trapped inside furiously urged the police to storm the school sooner, according to witness accounts. “They were just angry,” said Derek Sotelo, 26, who heard gunfire from his tire shop nearby and followed it to the school. “We were wondering, ‘What the heck is going on? Are they going in?’ The dads were saying, ‘Give me the vest, I’ll go in there!’”

Up to an hour. They negotiated for up to an hour while kids and teachers bled to death.

What the hell were they negotiating?

More from the Washington post. Every time you think this incident cannot become more horrific in the levels of human awfulness and callousness, or does:

“ The new details of how 18-year-old Salvador Ramos was able to kill 19 children and two teachers at Robb Elementary in Uvalde, Tex., on Tuesday, together with cellphone videos and witness accounts of police outside tackling or handcuffing desperate parents who tried to rush into the building, called into question earlier claims by Gov. Greg Abbott (R) that a “quick response” by law enforcement had saved lives.

Again, shouldn’t “standing down” be illegal?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What law would stop killings?

No one?

Background checks, waiting periods, banning high capacity magazines, extremely high sales tax on guns (like cigarettes), liability of manufacturers and owners of guns used in crimes.

Guns will never be gone from the US, but we can greatly increase the process of getting one, limiting what is available, assigning liability and taxing them.

+1

These are all reasonable and will cut down significantly on deaths.

Plus ban AR-15 and similar.