Lifting or dragging students

[Anonymous]

I work at a school at the kinder level where there is a very immature child in my class. He pushes all of your buttons and the other long term sub in my class gets upset with him frequently. It has escalated to her lifting him up and carrying him out of the class. Is this okay or should she be reported?

[Anonymous]

I think it’s fine. Better to remove him from the class than have all the other students affected. Assuming she can do it safely.

[Anonymous]

Does the child have a current behavior plan (BIP) signed by the parent that allows physical escort? Is the teacher following that plan correctly? If no BIP are these emergency situations that occur very infrequently and are harmful to self or others and thus require removal? If they’re emergency situations are they being properly documented and followed up with the parent and proper authorities within and outside your school? Has the teacher been trained on crisis intervention techniques? Have you?

If the answer to any of these is no (or you don’t know) then you need to document, report it, request an FBA, and ask for proper training in case there is an emergency and it needs to be done. Do all of this in writing. If they don’t address it within a week, ask again. If they refuse to address it then I’d personally refuse to work in any classroom where this is happening and would not return to that school district next year. It’s a huge liability and you’re putting yourself at risk by working there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it’s fine. Better to remove him from the class than have all the other students affected. Assuming she can do it safely.

It's not fine at all. It should be reported. This is not a small thing. Op and the teacher in question shouldn't be working with children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I work at a school at the kinder level where there is a very immature child in my class. He pushes all of your buttons and the other long term sub in my class gets upset with him frequently. It has escalated to her lifting him up and carrying him out of the class. Is this okay or should she be reported?

Report it. No one should be lifting or transporting a child due to behavior unless they've been specially trained and even then only under very specific circumstances. If the child is in crisis, you need to either clear the room or call the office and insist/demand an administrator come down to the classroom. Document every single occurrence.
You mention this woman is the other long term sub. If there are two long term subs in a K room and no teacher, that is a problem. Your administration is at fault here.

[Anonymous]

There are no teachers. We have long term subs in many grade levels.

[Anonymous]

This is a form of restraint. By law, it's only allowed when there is imminent danger (not just an adult getting frustrated). It also needs to be done by someone trained in proper restraint techniques so no one gets hurt. And documented, with notice to the parent.

Report it.

[Anonymous]

Is he being physical or putting others in danger in anyway or just being annoying?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is he being physical or putting others in danger in anyway or just being annoying?

He is being very annoying, tantrums, screaming, throwing things and not listening at all. She doesn't like his behavior and will pick him up and take him out of the classroom while he is kicking and screaming.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is he being physical or putting others in danger in anyway or just being annoying?

He is being very annoying, tantrums, screaming, throwing things and not listening at all. She doesn't like his behavior and will pick him up and take him out of the classroom while he is kicking and screaming.

Where are you located? This is a huge liability in most local public school systems.

[Anonymous]

This entire thread makes me so thankful I moved my kids out of public school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I work at a school at the kinder level where there is a very immature child in my class. He pushes all of your buttons and the other long term sub in my class gets upset with him frequently. It has escalated to her lifting him up and carrying him out of the class. Is this okay or should she be reported?

I would talk to her first. Tell her your concerns

[Anonymous]

Wow. And this is a key part of what is wrong in schools now. A kid acting like that belongs in the principal’s office or sent home. Not disturbing all the other kids every day. The fact that it is not legal for the teacher to pick the child up and carry them out of the room when that’s happening is just nuts.

[Anonymous]

Have you told her it’s not ok?
I’d talk to her first personally assumimg she’s otherwise good at her job.
Are you a para?

[Anonymous]

Talk to her - framing it like you don't want her to get in trouble for it and you think she might. Also bring in some other support person - hopefully there is someone guiding you guys. They will know exactly whats allowed. If she is doing that, then it can easily escalate in to yanking the kids arm out of frustration, etc. I one time reported a kindergarten para because I saw her yank a kid out of line. I felt really guilty reporting her, but I knew I had to.