RFK will require placebo controlled trials for vaccines

[Anonymous]

USA is absolutely doomed with unbelievable levels of stupidity:

https://www.foxnews.com/us/rfk-jr-require-all-new-vaccines-undergo-placebo-testing

[Anonymous]

I was shocked to find out that vaccines weren't double blind with placebos.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was shocked to find out that vaccines weren't double blind with placebos.

How in the F would you possibly administer placebo for horrific infectious disease in an ethical manner? How is science education m the US so bad?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was shocked to find out that vaccines weren't double blind with placebos.

How in the F would you possibly administer placebo for horrific infectious disease in an ethical manner? How is science education m the US so bad?

And what would even be the benefit? We are so cooked as society

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was shocked to find out that vaccines weren't double blind with placebos.

So you are volunteering?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was shocked to find out that vaccines weren't double blind with placebos.

How in the F would you possibly administer placebo for horrific infectious disease in an ethical manner? How is science education m the US so bad?

And what would even be the benefit? We are so cooked as society

Exactly, you cannot run a double blind placebo controlled trial without clinical equipoise. This administration doesn't understand clinical trials 101 and is going to make the US 10000x worse for infectious disease. MAGA, by making it virtually impossible to develop preventative therapies for the worst diseases known to man. Can you imagine if we had this dimwit alive while smallpox was around? Imagine giving placebos to people with smallpox. Utter madness.

[Anonymous]

Jesus wept

[Anonymous]

Vaccines are one of humankind's most incredible successes and achievements. A real testament to our ability to problem solve through science. Millions of lives saved and because of one corrupt study almost thirty years ago, Jenny McCarthy, and people butthurt over COVID vaccines, we are throwing it all away.

That short sightedness is one of humankind's greatest downsides.

[Anonymous]

Wow, so random kids will be given saline in place of real vaccines then marked "no autism" when they die from polio?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow, so random kids will be given saline in place of real vaccines then marked "no autism" when they die from polio?

Pro: no 'tism detected!!
Con: dead *whomp whomp*

[Anonymous]

I’m no scientist, but this seems highly unethical.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was shocked to find out that vaccines weren't double blind with placebos.

Most vaccines go through placebo testing already. Usually happens in Phase III for new vax. Something already cleared say chicken pox, new versions do not need to go through a placebo testing phase because they use the data from the first trial. Just more expense nothing new here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was shocked to find out that vaccines weren't double blind with placebos.

How in the F would you possibly administer placebo for horrific infectious disease in an ethical manner? How is science education m the US so bad?

And what would even be the benefit? We are so cooked as society

Exactly, you cannot run a double blind placebo controlled trial without clinical equipoise. This administration doesn't understand clinical trials 101 and is going to make the US 10000x worse for infectious disease. MAGA, by making it virtually impossible to develop preventative therapies for the worst diseases known to man. Can you imagine if we had this dimwit alive while smallpox was around? Imagine giving placebos to people with smallpox. Utter madness.

Actually, almost all vaccines in the US have gone through double blind placebo testing the only ones approved, not having done this, via the animal rule are: anthrax (three different ones I think) Ebola, and monkey pox/small pox. Education is useful. This just shows how dumber the administration is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was shocked to find out that vaccines weren't double blind with placebos.

How in the F would you possibly administer placebo for horrific infectious disease in an ethical manner? How is science education m the US so bad?

And what would even be the benefit? We are so cooked as society

Exactly, you cannot run a double blind placebo controlled trial without clinical equipoise. This administration doesn't understand clinical trials 101 and is going to make the US 10000x worse for infectious disease. MAGA, by making it virtually impossible to develop preventative therapies for the worst diseases known to man. Can you imagine if we had this dimwit alive while smallpox was around? Imagine giving placebos to people with smallpox. Utter madness.

Actually, almost all vaccines in the US have gone through double blind placebo testing the only ones approved, not having done this, via the animal rule are: anthrax (three different ones I think) Ebola, and monkey pox/small pox. Education is useful. This just shows how dumber the administration is.

But that's only when it is ethical. If the news is reporting correctly, RFK is saying it is for ALL.

Here's some placebo kiddies, now go out and play in some zika infested woods. Yay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I was shocked to find out that vaccines weren't double blind with placebos.

How in the F would you possibly administer placebo for horrific infectious disease in an ethical manner? How is science education m the US so bad?

And what would even be the benefit? We are so cooked as society

Exactly, you cannot run a double blind placebo controlled trial without clinical equipoise. This administration doesn't understand clinical trials 101 and is going to make the US 10000x worse for infectious disease. MAGA, by making it virtually impossible to develop preventative therapies for the worst diseases known to man. Can you imagine if we had this dimwit alive while smallpox was around? Imagine giving placebos to people with smallpox. Utter madness.

Actually, almost all vaccines in the US have gone through double blind placebo testing the only ones approved, not having done this, via the animal rule are: anthrax (three different ones I think) Ebola, and monkey pox/small pox. Education is useful. This just shows how dumber the administration is.

But that's only when it is ethical. If the news is reporting correctly, RFK is saying it is for ALL.

Here's some placebo kiddies, now go out and play in some zika infested woods. Yay.

And I’m saying that all approved vaccines already go through it in phase iii prior to their approval with the exception of the ones listed: anthrax, Ebola and monkey pox. This is not a new thing, it is already happening. There may be trials out there but anything deemed “approved” has already met these standards. The only thing I can think of is that he will make companies do them again (chicken pox or flu vaccine) where currently they are able to rely on the data of the placebo group from the original study.