What is the endgame for current attack on elite unis + international students?

[Anonymous]

Have seen a Singaporean friend of our undergrad at a T20 get deported because of caught with fake ID 6 weeks ago & the uni is telling all international students to not leave for the summer because the school does not know if they will be allowed back. Where it happened there are reports of over 60 intl. kids having their visa status being in play (we talking speeding tickets getting them flagged (we are not talking about protesters here)).

We also have family friends whose research has been stopped (told not to come to the lab anymore).

Removal of Dept. of Ed. & attack on tax-exempt status presumably mean 'need-blind' institutions will become endangered species.

What are the ramifications for the upcoming grad years? I would think merit pay, financial aid, intl students all going to take a major hit (top institutions pivot back more towards socioeconomic elitism). Any views?

[Anonymous]

I think the attacks are pretty catastrophic for graduate programs, but it's unclear what the impact will be on undergrad except that apps from international students will fall off a cliff. The best and brightest will be heading to Canada, the UK, and Europe.

[Anonymous]

Less educated population. Less critical thinking. Fewer places for people to pursue intellectual and liberal ideas. All leads to better control of the population and easier for authoritarians. Taking international students away takes their $$ away and makes universities more susceptible to having to comply with things for $

[Anonymous]

Of the 4 undergrad international students my kid knows, 4 are transferring to schools outside the US.

[Anonymous]

Anyone else think it's to make a more white, Christian homeland by starting with people with fewer protections, who Americans are less likely to be excited about leaving? In other words, is it the construction of a slippy slope?

[Anonymous]

The endgame is unwavering loyalty to one man.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone else think it's to make a more white, Christian homeland by starting with people with fewer protections, who Americans are less likely to be excited about leaving? In other words, is it the construction of a slippy slope?

Of course it is. From the Atlantic:

In his meeting with Bukele, Trump stated that he wants to expand deportations to El Salvador to American citizens. (“Homegrowns are next,” he said to Bukele. “The homegrowns. You gotta build about five more places. It’s not big enough.”) Asked if his deportation plan includes American citizens, he replied, “Yeah, that includes them—you think they’re a special type of people or something?” He reaffirmed the position on Fox News the following day.

[Anonymous]

A Singaporean certainly should know better than to have a fake ID. Laws in Singapore are always very strictly enforced. Jay-walking there can get one caned.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Less educated population. Less critical thinking. Fewer places for people to pursue intellectual and liberal ideas. All leads to better control of the population and easier for authoritarians. Taking international students away takes their $$ away and makes universities more susceptible to having to comply with things for $

Elite universities have so diminished themselves, they are little more than ridiculous indoctrination centers for the left.

Start here:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudine_Gay

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A Singaporean certainly should know better than to have a fake ID. Laws in Singapore are always very strictly enforced. Jay-walking there can get one caned.

And a Singaporean kid who has been told "you don't get how much more lenient than the US" may also be particularly prone to lacking judgement between

- yeah you aren't supposed to have candles in your dowm room but everyone does
- yeah you are supposed to come to a full stop at the light but no one does
- yeah you aren't supposed to have a fake ID but everyone does

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Less educated population. Less critical thinking. Fewer places for people to pursue intellectual and liberal ideas. All leads to better control of the population and easier for authoritarians. Taking international students away takes their $$ away and makes universities more susceptible to having to comply with things for $

Elite universities have so diminished themselves, they are little more than ridiculous indoctrination centers for the left.

Start here:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudine_Gay

Harvard claimed it elevated Ms. Gay solely on the basis of her achievement, and her race and gender were “merely incidental.”

Ms. Gay has only a paltry 11 published works throughout her career and most of those works were plagiarized. Worse still, most of the topics in “her” published works involved topics such as critical race theory, DEIA, systemic white racism, etc.

She is but one small but obvious example of a massive bias problem in our universities.

[Anonymous]

Between the learning loss during Covid and the clear attempts to de-emphasize education, both at the K-12 level and universities, we are seeing the dumbing down of America. It is scary. We are increasingly having rule of the idiot class.

Praying that we can survive as a nation until future elections and that we will have fair elections.

Were things perfect before? Heck no. But this is an extreme pivot in the opposite direction and an extreme over-reaction. But MAGA nation does not believe in incrementalism. They exist only to "stick it to the libs." And to "win."

Well, they are winning. And they will pay the price.

And no, I'm not over-reacting. I actually care about the total well-being of other people. They don't.

Awaiting an attack in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1...

[Anonymous]

Control and forced compliance

[Anonymous]

I mean, part of the end goal for these people is to create a white nationalist government and country. So, they want all the nation’s institutions (from the Kennedy Center to higher education universities) to mirror that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Less educated population. Less critical thinking. Fewer places for people to pursue intellectual and liberal ideas. All leads to better control of the population and easier for authoritarians. Taking international students away takes their $$ away and makes universities more susceptible to having to comply with things for $

Elite universities have so diminished themselves, they are little more than ridiculous indoctrination centers for the left.

Start here:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claudine_Gay

Or a wealthy hedge fund with a side gig of having a racist indoctrination center.