I see tons of posts by atheists that state atheists also don’t think there is any world beyond the natural world, ie, the supernatural.
Is that a core tenet of atheism? It’s confusing because many atheists have posted here that atheism just means no belief in a God or gods. |
It’s confusing to you, clearly. The rest of us realize an atheist can think more than one thing. |
So some atheists don’t believe in the supernatural, and some do? |
Atheism does not have core tenets because it is not a religion or a school of thought. It is a simple lack of belief in God, as you state above. it is "a-thiesm" lack of belief in God, like "asymptomatic" means a lack of symptoms. |
That's not at all what pp said, which I think and hope that you understand. No atheist believes in the supernatural. |
By the definition of the term, it would seem to mean simply only failure to believe in god(s). Studies of belief on non-religious people reveals a fair amount of beliefs in things that are supernatural. For instance you get 23% of atheists believing in god or a higher power, a slightly higher percentages believing in souls (and a majority of agnostics): https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2024/01/24/are-all-nones-nonbelievers/. You also get small number of atheists who believe in astrology or psychics: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2018/10/01/new-age-beliefs-common-among-both-religious-and-nonreligious-americans/.
This also varies a lot by country: https://www.stmarys.ac.uk/research/centres/benedict-xvi/docs/benedict-centre-understanding-unbelief-report.pdf shows some countries with decently high numbers of atheists who believe in, for example, reincarnation or supernatural beings. Never a majority, but more than a handful. I'm just focusing on atheists here, agnostics and other "nones" tend to have higher rates of supernatural belief, but even within the atheist community there's some supernatural beliefs. |
Please read what has been typed. You are correct that atheism is a position on only one proposition. But you can be an atheist and think other things. Stop trying to gish gallop past the points that have been clearly made. |
Then atheism is more than just no belief in God/gods, because God/gods are not the total of the supernatural world. So atheism-despite protestations-is no belief in God/gods, and no belief in the supernatural world. Supernatural weans anything beyond the natural world. Why the confusion? Are atheists not allowed to admit they don’t believe in the supernatural? |
Why the confusion? Great question. Since YOU are the confused one, maybe you could enlighten? |
That's not at all what pp said, which I think and hope that you understand. No atheist believes in the supernatural.
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9:28 says no atheist believes in the supernatural
9:19 says atheists can think more than one thing? So it’s not uniform in the atheist community, because those are two atheists with different views about the supernatural. |
I think the term is agnostic. They're not sure what God is the real GOD. |
The entire point of being an atheist is that I am not following any "core tenets" laid out by some one else. I do what I think is right and moral and ethical. So I don't have a strong opinion on the supernatural and I also don't care if that bothers you. |
I hear you saying that atheists can really be agnostic and believe that there is a real God, but they are unsure which God is the real God? That really is confusing. |
I am not bothered by it; just trying to learn. There are atheists who say that no atheist believes in the supernatural, and others (like you) who don’t have a strong opinion about the supernatural world. Then another atheist posted statistics and data that shows some atheists do have some supernatural beliefs. |