Teachers with over 10 absences

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Anonymous wrote:Never saw a teacher contract that said teachers had to provide work for students who vacation at the whim of their families.

It’s a courtesy for which you should be grateful.

When you ask for work on something that wasn’t taught yet, the teacher has to scaffold it to be doable for the kid.

Can’t tell you how many times I’ve watched teachers scurry to put together a packet that is never touched.


Teachers have to provide work for excused absences. Whether that absence is excused is at the discretion of the parent.


Nope. You are not correct there.
But you can dream it.

In fact, parents who take their kids to visit in other countries over a period of months not only cannot expect to take a prepared curriculum with them, they can be disenrolled after an extended absence. The parent does not have the authority to excuse the student. They do have the right to home school, but that will not be supported by the school they are not attending.

Don’t worry, soon the robots can travel with you. No need for teachers or parents.


HIPAA says you have absolutely no right to knowledge of why my child is absent.


HIPAA has nothing to do with what you tell schools. Schools are not covered entitities under HIPAA.


Wrong again. If we provide information to the nurse of the administration, they are not permitted to share it with you.


What is the nurse of the administration? That has not been a position in any school I have spent time at.


Nurse Or Administration. They may not share information with you without a parent’s ok without violating HIPPA. So don’t worry, the absence is excused. Now it’s no extra work to reissue the exam.


I’m leaving this farce of a conversation. This parent comes across as manipulative, entitled, disrespectful, and unreasonable.

As if this parent has any idea what “extra work” he/she is gleefully creating for a parent after manipulating the “nurse or administration.”

Sickening, really. If people want to see what teachers deal with, look no further than this thread.


All because you have to do your job. No one feels bad for you.


Clearly I haven’t left yet. We all make bad decisions.

Oh, I’m not afraid of doing my job. I do it very well.

But you have established that you will manipulate admin and the health suite to excuse your child at, as you said, your discretion.

I have no respect for people who manipulate the system, and in doing so create extra work. No apology or sense of understanding, just a “you work for me” mentality. My contract doesn’t state I have to respect that, and I don’t.


It’s not manipulating the system. It’s following the exact rules. Now you can feel better about staying later to give that test knowing the rules have been followed to the letter.


You lost me with your “at parent’s discretion” comment. I have respect for someone who thinks they are above the rules.

I’ll help your child because I care about my students. (You’re welcome.) It’s not their fault this is how you choose to operate.
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Anonymous wrote:Never saw a teacher contract that said teachers had to provide work for students who vacation at the whim of their families.

It’s a courtesy for which you should be grateful.

When you ask for work on something that wasn’t taught yet, the teacher has to scaffold it to be doable for the kid.

Can’t tell you how many times I’ve watched teachers scurry to put together a packet that is never touched.


Teachers have to provide work for excused absences. Whether that absence is excused is at the discretion of the parent.


Nope. You are not correct there.
But you can dream it.

In fact, parents who take their kids to visit in other countries over a period of months not only cannot expect to take a prepared curriculum with them, they can be disenrolled after an extended absence. The parent does not have the authority to excuse the student. They do have the right to home school, but that will not be supported by the school they are not attending.

Don’t worry, soon the robots can travel with you. No need for teachers or parents.


HIPAA says you have absolutely no right to knowledge of why my child is absent.


HIPAA has nothing to do with what you tell schools. Schools are not covered entitities under HIPAA.


Wrong again. If we provide information to the nurse of the administration, they are not permitted to share it with you.


What is the nurse of the administration? That has not been a position in any school I have spent time at.


Nurse Or Administration. They may not share information with you without a parent’s ok without violating HIPPA. So don’t worry, the absence is excused. Now it’s no extra work to reissue the exam.


Again, that’s not what HIPPA is


Cool. You won’t get more information than the absence is excused.


No one is asking for information, no one cares.


A teacher on a power trip trying to get out of doing their job— giving makeup work to students who are absent— will not be given information to support that weird flex.


Nobody on this thread has done that. There’s no “weird flex” other than your strange desire to create conflict.

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Anonymous wrote:Never saw a teacher contract that said teachers had to provide work for students who vacation at the whim of their families.

It’s a courtesy for which you should be grateful.

When you ask for work on something that wasn’t taught yet, the teacher has to scaffold it to be doable for the kid.

Can’t tell you how many times I’ve watched teachers scurry to put together a packet that is never touched.


Teachers have to provide work for excused absences. Whether that absence is excused is at the discretion of the parent.


Nope. You are not correct there.
But you can dream it.

In fact, parents who take their kids to visit in other countries over a period of months not only cannot expect to take a prepared curriculum with them, they can be disenrolled after an extended absence. The parent does not have the authority to excuse the student. They do have the right to home school, but that will not be supported by the school they are not attending.

Don’t worry, soon the robots can travel with you. No need for teachers or parents.


HIPAA says you have absolutely no right to knowledge of why my child is absent.


HIPAA has nothing to do with what you tell schools. Schools are not covered entitities under HIPAA.


Wrong again. If we provide information to the nurse of the administration, they are not permitted to share it with you.


What is the nurse of the administration? That has not been a position in any school I have spent time at.


Nurse Or Administration. They may not share information with you without a parent’s ok without violating HIPPA. So don’t worry, the absence is excused. Now it’s no extra work to reissue the exam.


I’m leaving this farce of a conversation. This parent comes across as manipulative, entitled, disrespectful, and unreasonable.

As if this parent has any idea what “extra work” he/she is gleefully creating for a parent after manipulating the “nurse or administration.”

Sickening, really. If people want to see what teachers deal with, look no further than this thread.


All because you have to do your job. No one feels bad for you.


Clearly I haven’t left yet. We all make bad decisions.

Oh, I’m not afraid of doing my job. I do it very well.

But you have established that you will manipulate admin and the health suite to excuse your child at, as you said, your discretion.

I have no respect for people who manipulate the system, and in doing so create extra work. No apology or sense of understanding, just a “you work for me” mentality. My contract doesn’t state I have to respect that, and I don’t.


It’s not manipulating the system. It’s following the exact rules. Now you can feel better about staying later to give that test knowing the rules have been followed to the letter.


You lost me with your “at parent’s discretion” comment. I have respect for someone who thinks they are above the rules.

I’ll help your child because I care about my students. (You’re welcome.) It’s not their fault this is how you choose to operate.


It follows the rules. Parents and their chosen professionals determine the best interest of students. Not a teacher who thinks doing her job needs a “your welcome”
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Anonymous wrote:Never saw a teacher contract that said teachers had to provide work for students who vacation at the whim of their families.

It’s a courtesy for which you should be grateful.

When you ask for work on something that wasn’t taught yet, the teacher has to scaffold it to be doable for the kid.

Can’t tell you how many times I’ve watched teachers scurry to put together a packet that is never touched.


Teachers have to provide work for excused absences. Whether that absence is excused is at the discretion of the parent.


Nope. You are not correct there.
But you can dream it.

In fact, parents who take their kids to visit in other countries over a period of months not only cannot expect to take a prepared curriculum with them, they can be disenrolled after an extended absence. The parent does not have the authority to excuse the student. They do have the right to home school, but that will not be supported by the school they are not attending.

Don’t worry, soon the robots can travel with you. No need for teachers or parents.


HIPAA says you have absolutely no right to knowledge of why my child is absent.


HIPAA has nothing to do with what you tell schools. Schools are not covered entitities under HIPAA.


Wrong again. If we provide information to the nurse of the administration, they are not permitted to share it with you.


What is the nurse of the administration? That has not been a position in any school I have spent time at.


Nurse Or Administration. They may not share information with you without a parent’s ok without violating HIPPA. So don’t worry, the absence is excused. Now it’s no extra work to reissue the exam.


I’m leaving this farce of a conversation. This parent comes across as manipulative, entitled, disrespectful, and unreasonable.

As if this parent has any idea what “extra work” he/she is gleefully creating for a parent after manipulating the “nurse or administration.”

Sickening, really. If people want to see what teachers deal with, look no further than this thread.


All because you have to do your job. No one feels bad for you.


Clearly I haven’t left yet. We all make bad decisions.

Oh, I’m not afraid of doing my job. I do it very well.

But you have established that you will manipulate admin and the health suite to excuse your child at, as you said, your discretion.

I have no respect for people who manipulate the system, and in doing so create extra work. No apology or sense of understanding, just a “you work for me” mentality. My contract doesn’t state I have to respect that, and I don’t.


It’s not manipulating the system. It’s following the exact rules. Now you can feel better about staying later to give that test knowing the rules have been followed to the letter.


You lost me with your “at parent’s discretion” comment. I have respect for someone who thinks they are above the rules.

I’ll help your child because I care about my students. (You’re welcome.) It’s not their fault this is how you choose to operate.


It follows the rules. Parents and their chosen professionals determine the best interest of students. Not a teacher who thinks doing her job needs a “your welcome”


No, the “you’re welcome” is that I will help your child regardless of your disrespect for the system. It is not your child’s fault that you approach education professionals with so much disrespect. You’ve lost any footing with me.
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Anonymous wrote:Never saw a teacher contract that said teachers had to provide work for students who vacation at the whim of their families.

It’s a courtesy for which you should be grateful.

When you ask for work on something that wasn’t taught yet, the teacher has to scaffold it to be doable for the kid.

Can’t tell you how many times I’ve watched teachers scurry to put together a packet that is never touched.


Teachers have to provide work for excused absences. Whether that absence is excused is at the discretion of the parent.


Nope. You are not correct there.
But you can dream it.

In fact, parents who take their kids to visit in other countries over a period of months not only cannot expect to take a prepared curriculum with them, they can be disenrolled after an extended absence. The parent does not have the authority to excuse the student. They do have the right to home school, but that will not be supported by the school they are not attending.

Don’t worry, soon the robots can travel with you. No need for teachers or parents.


HIPAA says you have absolutely no right to knowledge of why my child is absent.


HIPAA has nothing to do with what you tell schools. Schools are not covered entitities under HIPAA.


Wrong again. If we provide information to the nurse of the administration, they are not permitted to share it with you.


What is the nurse of the administration? That has not been a position in any school I have spent time at.


Nurse Or Administration. They may not share information with you without a parent’s ok without violating HIPPA. So don’t worry, the absence is excused. Now it’s no extra work to reissue the exam.


I’m leaving this farce of a conversation. This parent comes across as manipulative, entitled, disrespectful, and unreasonable.

As if this parent has any idea what “extra work” he/she is gleefully creating for a parent after manipulating the “nurse or administration.”

Sickening, really. If people want to see what teachers deal with, look no further than this thread.


All because you have to do your job. No one feels bad for you.


Clearly I haven’t left yet. We all make bad decisions.

Oh, I’m not afraid of doing my job. I do it very well.

But you have established that you will manipulate admin and the health suite to excuse your child at, as you said, your discretion.

I have no respect for people who manipulate the system, and in doing so create extra work. No apology or sense of understanding, just a “you work for me” mentality. My contract doesn’t state I have to respect that, and I don’t.


It’s not manipulating the system. It’s following the exact rules. Now you can feel better about staying later to give that test knowing the rules have been followed to the letter.


You lost me with your “at parent’s discretion” comment. I have respect for someone who thinks they are above the rules.

I’ll help your child because I care about my students. (You’re welcome.) It’s not their fault this is how you choose to operate.


It follows the rules. Parents and their chosen professionals determine the best interest of students. Not a teacher who thinks doing her job needs a “your welcome”


No, the “you’re welcome” is that I will help your child regardless of your disrespect for the system. It is not your child’s fault that you approach education professionals with so much disrespect. You’ve lost any footing with me.


Your problem is you think this matters or should matter.

If you don’t want to do “extra” meaning the work FCPS regulations clearly stipulated is your job, go somewhere else. Don’t pretend make up work is anomalous— its not— or that it’s harder based on your perception of why a student was out.

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Anonymous wrote:Never saw a teacher contract that said teachers had to provide work for students who vacation at the whim of their families.

It’s a courtesy for which you should be grateful.

When you ask for work on something that wasn’t taught yet, the teacher has to scaffold it to be doable for the kid.

Can’t tell you how many times I’ve watched teachers scurry to put together a packet that is never touched.


Teachers have to provide work for excused absences. Whether that absence is excused is at the discretion of the parent.


Nope. You are not correct there.
But you can dream it.

In fact, parents who take their kids to visit in other countries over a period of months not only cannot expect to take a prepared curriculum with them, they can be disenrolled after an extended absence. The parent does not have the authority to excuse the student. They do have the right to home school, but that will not be supported by the school they are not attending.

Don’t worry, soon the robots can travel with you. No need for teachers or parents.


HIPAA says you have absolutely no right to knowledge of why my child is absent.


HIPAA has nothing to do with what you tell schools. Schools are not covered entitities under HIPAA.


Wrong again. If we provide information to the nurse of the administration, they are not permitted to share it with you.


What is the nurse of the administration? That has not been a position in any school I have spent time at.


Nurse Or Administration. They may not share information with you without a parent’s ok without violating HIPPA. So don’t worry, the absence is excused. Now it’s no extra work to reissue the exam.


I’m leaving this farce of a conversation. This parent comes across as manipulative, entitled, disrespectful, and unreasonable.

As if this parent has any idea what “extra work” he/she is gleefully creating for a parent after manipulating the “nurse or administration.”

Sickening, really. If people want to see what teachers deal with, look no further than this thread.


All because you have to do your job. No one feels bad for you.


Clearly I haven’t left yet. We all make bad decisions.

Oh, I’m not afraid of doing my job. I do it very well.

But you have established that you will manipulate admin and the health suite to excuse your child at, as you said, your discretion.

I have no respect for people who manipulate the system, and in doing so create extra work. No apology or sense of understanding, just a “you work for me” mentality. My contract doesn’t state I have to respect that, and I don’t.


It’s not manipulating the system. It’s following the exact rules. Now you can feel better about staying later to give that test knowing the rules have been followed to the letter.


You lost me with your “at parent’s discretion” comment. I have respect for someone who thinks they are above the rules.

I’ll help your child because I care about my students. (You’re welcome.) It’s not their fault this is how you choose to operate.


It follows the rules. Parents and their chosen professionals determine the best interest of students. Not a teacher who thinks doing her job needs a “your welcome”


No, the “you’re welcome” is that I will help your child regardless of your disrespect for the system. It is not your child’s fault that you approach education professionals with so much disrespect. You’ve lost any footing with me.


Your problem is you think this matters or should matter.

If you don’t want to do “extra” meaning the work FCPS regulations clearly stipulated is your job, go somewhere else. Don’t pretend make up work is anomalous— its not— or that it’s harder based on your perception of why a student was out.



You have no understanding of my job, nor do you respect it. You’ve been rude, dismissive, and entitled. I feel sorry for the teachers and administrators who have to deal with you in real life, as you have clearly established who you are on this thread.
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Anonymous wrote:Never saw a teacher contract that said teachers had to provide work for students who vacation at the whim of their families.

It’s a courtesy for which you should be grateful.

When you ask for work on something that wasn’t taught yet, the teacher has to scaffold it to be doable for the kid.

Can’t tell you how many times I’ve watched teachers scurry to put together a packet that is never touched.


Teachers have to provide work for excused absences. Whether that absence is excused is at the discretion of the parent.


Nope. You are not correct there.
But you can dream it.

In fact, parents who take their kids to visit in other countries over a period of months not only cannot expect to take a prepared curriculum with them, they can be disenrolled after an extended absence. The parent does not have the authority to excuse the student. They do have the right to home school, but that will not be supported by the school they are not attending.

Don’t worry, soon the robots can travel with you. No need for teachers or parents.


HIPAA says you have absolutely no right to knowledge of why my child is absent.


HIPAA has nothing to do with what you tell schools. Schools are not covered entitities under HIPAA.


Wrong again. If we provide information to the nurse of the administration, they are not permitted to share it with you.


What is the nurse of the administration? That has not been a position in any school I have spent time at.


Nurse Or Administration. They may not share information with you without a parent’s ok without violating HIPPA. So don’t worry, the absence is excused. Now it’s no extra work to reissue the exam.


I’m leaving this farce of a conversation. This parent comes across as manipulative, entitled, disrespectful, and unreasonable.

As if this parent has any idea what “extra work” he/she is gleefully creating for a parent after manipulating the “nurse or administration.”

Sickening, really. If people want to see what teachers deal with, look no further than this thread.


All because you have to do your job. No one feels bad for you.


Clearly I haven’t left yet. We all make bad decisions.

Oh, I’m not afraid of doing my job. I do it very well.

But you have established that you will manipulate admin and the health suite to excuse your child at, as you said, your discretion.

I have no respect for people who manipulate the system, and in doing so create extra work. No apology or sense of understanding, just a “you work for me” mentality. My contract doesn’t state I have to respect that, and I don’t.


It’s not manipulating the system. It’s following the exact rules. Now you can feel better about staying later to give that test knowing the rules have been followed to the letter.


You lost me with your “at parent’s discretion” comment. I have respect for someone who thinks they are above the rules.

I’ll help your child because I care about my students. (You’re welcome.) It’s not their fault this is how you choose to operate.


It follows the rules. Parents and their chosen professionals determine the best interest of students. Not a teacher who thinks doing her job needs a “your welcome”


No, the “you’re welcome” is that I will help your child regardless of your disrespect for the system. It is not your child’s fault that you approach education professionals with so much disrespect. You’ve lost any footing with me.


Your problem is you think this matters or should matter.

If you don’t want to do “extra” meaning the work FCPS regulations clearly stipulated is your job, go somewhere else. Don’t pretend make up work is anomalous— its not— or that it’s harder based on your perception of why a student was out.



You have no understanding of my job, nor do you respect it. You’ve been rude, dismissive, and entitled. I feel sorry for the teachers and administrators who have to deal with you in real life, as you have clearly established who you are on this thread.


Your perception that it is rude to point out that you are required by contract to provide make up work says a lot about entitlement.

I respect many teachers, but no, I do not respect you, or anyone else who acts as though doing the job for which they are hired and for which they accept public pay is some remarkable favor they are doing the world. You make good teachers look bad— always wanting extra, always wanting sympathy, always wanting a gold star.

You, by the way, or why parents take note of teachers with so many absences and don’t provide the benefit of the doubt anymore.
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Anonymous wrote:Never saw a teacher contract that said teachers had to provide work for students who vacation at the whim of their families.

It’s a courtesy for which you should be grateful.

When you ask for work on something that wasn’t taught yet, the teacher has to scaffold it to be doable for the kid.

Can’t tell you how many times I’ve watched teachers scurry to put together a packet that is never touched.


Teachers have to provide work for excused absences. Whether that absence is excused is at the discretion of the parent.


Nope. You are not correct there.
But you can dream it.

In fact, parents who take their kids to visit in other countries over a period of months not only cannot expect to take a prepared curriculum with them, they can be disenrolled after an extended absence. The parent does not have the authority to excuse the student. They do have the right to home school, but that will not be supported by the school they are not attending.

Don’t worry, soon the robots can travel with you. No need for teachers or parents.


HIPAA says you have absolutely no right to knowledge of why my child is absent.


HIPAA has nothing to do with what you tell schools. Schools are not covered entitities under HIPAA.


Wrong again. If we provide information to the nurse of the administration, they are not permitted to share it with you.


What is the nurse of the administration? That has not been a position in any school I have spent time at.


Nurse Or Administration. They may not share information with you without a parent’s ok without violating HIPPA. So don’t worry, the absence is excused. Now it’s no extra work to reissue the exam.


I’m leaving this farce of a conversation. This parent comes across as manipulative, entitled, disrespectful, and unreasonable.

As if this parent has any idea what “extra work” he/she is gleefully creating for a parent after manipulating the “nurse or administration.”

Sickening, really. If people want to see what teachers deal with, look no further than this thread.


All because you have to do your job. No one feels bad for you.


Clearly I haven’t left yet. We all make bad decisions.

Oh, I’m not afraid of doing my job. I do it very well.

But you have established that you will manipulate admin and the health suite to excuse your child at, as you said, your discretion.

I have no respect for people who manipulate the system, and in doing so create extra work. No apology or sense of understanding, just a “you work for me” mentality. My contract doesn’t state I have to respect that, and I don’t.


It’s not manipulating the system. It’s following the exact rules. Now you can feel better about staying later to give that test knowing the rules have been followed to the letter.


You lost me with your “at parent’s discretion” comment. I have respect for someone who thinks they are above the rules.

I’ll help your child because I care about my students. (You’re welcome.) It’s not their fault this is how you choose to operate.


It follows the rules. Parents and their chosen professionals determine the best interest of students. Not a teacher who thinks doing her job needs a “your welcome”


No, the “you’re welcome” is that I will help your child regardless of your disrespect for the system. It is not your child’s fault that you approach education professionals with so much disrespect. You’ve lost any footing with me.


Your problem is you think this matters or should matter.

If you don’t want to do “extra” meaning the work FCPS regulations clearly stipulated is your job, go somewhere else. Don’t pretend make up work is anomalous— its not— or that it’s harder based on your perception of why a student was out.



You have no understanding of my job, nor do you respect it. You’ve been rude, dismissive, and entitled. I feel sorry for the teachers and administrators who have to deal with you in real life, as you have clearly established who you are on this thread.


Your perception that it is rude to point out that you are required by contract to provide make up work says a lot about entitlement.

I respect many teachers, but no, I do not respect you, or anyone else who acts as though doing the job for which they are hired and for which they accept public pay is some remarkable favor they are doing the world. You make good teachers look bad— always wanting extra, always wanting sympathy, always wanting a gold star.

You, by the way, or why parents take note of teachers with so many absences and don’t provide the benefit of the doubt anymore.


NP: nowhere does it state in my contract I must provide makeup work to kids with unexcused (vacation) absences. If you have information that states otherwise, please share!

Official grading policy is actually that any vacation is unexcused and unexcused absences result in zeros. If a teacher is offering makeup work for a vacation, they are going above and beyond for your child.
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Anonymous wrote:Never saw a teacher contract that said teachers had to provide work for students who vacation at the whim of their families.

It’s a courtesy for which you should be grateful.

When you ask for work on something that wasn’t taught yet, the teacher has to scaffold it to be doable for the kid.

Can’t tell you how many times I’ve watched teachers scurry to put together a packet that is never touched.


Teachers have to provide work for excused absences. Whether that absence is excused is at the discretion of the parent.


Nope. You are not correct there.
But you can dream it.

In fact, parents who take their kids to visit in other countries over a period of months not only cannot expect to take a prepared curriculum with them, they can be disenrolled after an extended absence. The parent does not have the authority to excuse the student. They do have the right to home school, but that will not be supported by the school they are not attending.

Don’t worry, soon the robots can travel with you. No need for teachers or parents.


HIPAA says you have absolutely no right to knowledge of why my child is absent.


HIPAA has nothing to do with what you tell schools. Schools are not covered entitities under HIPAA.


Wrong again. If we provide information to the nurse of the administration, they are not permitted to share it with you.


What is the nurse of the administration? That has not been a position in any school I have spent time at.


Nurse Or Administration. They may not share information with you without a parent’s ok without violating HIPPA. So don’t worry, the absence is excused. Now it’s no extra work to reissue the exam.


I’m leaving this farce of a conversation. This parent comes across as manipulative, entitled, disrespectful, and unreasonable.

As if this parent has any idea what “extra work” he/she is gleefully creating for a parent after manipulating the “nurse or administration.”

Sickening, really. If people want to see what teachers deal with, look no further than this thread.


All because you have to do your job. No one feels bad for you.


Clearly I haven’t left yet. We all make bad decisions.

Oh, I’m not afraid of doing my job. I do it very well.

But you have established that you will manipulate admin and the health suite to excuse your child at, as you said, your discretion.

I have no respect for people who manipulate the system, and in doing so create extra work. No apology or sense of understanding, just a “you work for me” mentality. My contract doesn’t state I have to respect that, and I don’t.


It’s not manipulating the system. It’s following the exact rules. Now you can feel better about staying later to give that test knowing the rules have been followed to the letter.


You lost me with your “at parent’s discretion” comment. I have respect for someone who thinks they are above the rules.

I’ll help your child because I care about my students. (You’re welcome.) It’s not their fault this is how you choose to operate.


It follows the rules. Parents and their chosen professionals determine the best interest of students. Not a teacher who thinks doing her job needs a “your welcome”


No, the “you’re welcome” is that I will help your child regardless of your disrespect for the system. It is not your child’s fault that you approach education professionals with so much disrespect. You’ve lost any footing with me.


Your problem is you think this matters or should matter.

If you don’t want to do “extra” meaning the work FCPS regulations clearly stipulated is your job, go somewhere else. Don’t pretend make up work is anomalous— its not— or that it’s harder based on your perception of why a student was out.



You have no understanding of my job, nor do you respect it. You’ve been rude, dismissive, and entitled. I feel sorry for the teachers and administrators who have to deal with you in real life, as you have clearly established who you are on this thread.


Your perception that it is rude to point out that you are required by contract to provide make up work says a lot about entitlement.

I respect many teachers, but no, I do not respect you, or anyone else who acts as though doing the job for which they are hired and for which they accept public pay is some remarkable favor they are doing the world. You make good teachers look bad— always wanting extra, always wanting sympathy, always wanting a gold star.

You, by the way, or why parents take note of teachers with so many absences and don’t provide the benefit of the doubt anymore.


NP: nowhere does it state in my contract I must provide makeup work to kids with unexcused (vacation) absences. If you have information that states otherwise, please share!

Official grading policy is actually that any vacation is unexcused and unexcused absences result in zeros. If a teacher is offering makeup work for a vacation, they are going above and beyond for your child.


I’m the PP to which that poster was responding. You are correct, of course, and this has been pointed out multiple times. However, that poster continues to demand that make-up work is always required as absences are excused at “parent’s discretion.” There’s no way to reason with that poster, who will continue to morph our job description into whatever he/she wants it to be.

I wouldn’t take any insults hurled by that poster seriously, either.
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Anonymous wrote:Never saw a teacher contract that said teachers had to provide work for students who vacation at the whim of their families.

It’s a courtesy for which you should be grateful.

When you ask for work on something that wasn’t taught yet, the teacher has to scaffold it to be doable for the kid.

Can’t tell you how many times I’ve watched teachers scurry to put together a packet that is never touched.


Teachers have to provide work for excused absences. Whether that absence is excused is at the discretion of the parent.


Nope. You are not correct there.
But you can dream it.

In fact, parents who take their kids to visit in other countries over a period of months not only cannot expect to take a prepared curriculum with them, they can be disenrolled after an extended absence. The parent does not have the authority to excuse the student. They do have the right to home school, but that will not be supported by the school they are not attending.

Don’t worry, soon the robots can travel with you. No need for teachers or parents.


HIPAA says you have absolutely no right to knowledge of why my child is absent.


HIPAA has nothing to do with what you tell schools. Schools are not covered entitities under HIPAA.


Wrong again. If we provide information to the nurse of the administration, they are not permitted to share it with you.


What is the nurse of the administration? That has not been a position in any school I have spent time at.


Nurse Or Administration. They may not share information with you without a parent’s ok without violating HIPPA. So don’t worry, the absence is excused. Now it’s no extra work to reissue the exam.


I’m leaving this farce of a conversation. This parent comes across as manipulative, entitled, disrespectful, and unreasonable.

As if this parent has any idea what “extra work” he/she is gleefully creating for a parent after manipulating the “nurse or administration.”

Sickening, really. If people want to see what teachers deal with, look no further than this thread.


All because you have to do your job. No one feels bad for you.


Clearly I haven’t left yet. We all make bad decisions.

Oh, I’m not afraid of doing my job. I do it very well.

But you have established that you will manipulate admin and the health suite to excuse your child at, as you said, your discretion.

I have no respect for people who manipulate the system, and in doing so create extra work. No apology or sense of understanding, just a “you work for me” mentality. My contract doesn’t state I have to respect that, and I don’t.


It’s not manipulating the system. It’s following the exact rules. Now you can feel better about staying later to give that test knowing the rules have been followed to the letter.


You lost me with your “at parent’s discretion” comment. I have respect for someone who thinks they are above the rules.

I’ll help your child because I care about my students. (You’re welcome.) It’s not their fault this is how you choose to operate.


It follows the rules. Parents and their chosen professionals determine the best interest of students. Not a teacher who thinks doing her job needs a “your welcome”


No, the “you’re welcome” is that I will help your child regardless of your disrespect for the system. It is not your child’s fault that you approach education professionals with so much disrespect. You’ve lost any footing with me.


Your problem is you think this matters or should matter.

If you don’t want to do “extra” meaning the work FCPS regulations clearly stipulated is your job, go somewhere else. Don’t pretend make up work is anomalous— its not— or that it’s harder based on your perception of why a student was out.



You have no understanding of my job, nor do you respect it. You’ve been rude, dismissive, and entitled. I feel sorry for the teachers and administrators who have to deal with you in real life, as you have clearly established who you are on this thread.


Your perception that it is rude to point out that you are required by contract to provide make up work says a lot about entitlement.

I respect many teachers, but no, I do not respect you, or anyone else who acts as though doing the job for which they are hired and for which they accept public pay is some remarkable favor they are doing the world. You make good teachers look bad— always wanting extra, always wanting sympathy, always wanting a gold star.

You, by the way, or why parents take note of teachers with so many absences and don’t provide the benefit of the doubt anymore.


NP: nowhere does it state in my contract I must provide makeup work to kids with unexcused (vacation) absences. If you have information that states otherwise, please share!

Official grading policy is actually that any vacation is unexcused and unexcused absences result in zeros. If a teacher is offering makeup work for a vacation, they are going above and beyond for your child.


It’s not your business whether a kid is on vacation just like you think it’s not a parents business if a teacher is. If vacation is in the best interests of the kid, it’s excused. A teacher who seems like they don’t understand it’s part of the job to provide makeup work will be informed by the admin that the student had a note.
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An absence is excused if a parent says it is. The parent is who calls the school. If the Admin (not the teacher) wants to request additional information they’re provided a note from the professional the parent selects to say the date the student will return to school. I don’t know where you get this idea that vacations are always unexcused absence.
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Anonymous wrote:An absence is excused if a parent says it is. The parent is who calls the school. If the Admin (not the teacher) wants to request additional information they’re provided a note from the professional the parent selects to say the date the student will return to school. I don’t know where you get this idea that vacations are always unexcused absence.


Well, the school system doesn’t agree with your “the parent calls all the shots” interpretation of the rules. I’m not seeing “vacation” below:

“Legitimate reasons may include: illness (including
mental health challenges), injury, legal obligations, medical procedures, death in the family, a doctor or dental appointment, religious or cultural observance, military obligation, deployment of a military family member or visit from a family member who has immediately returned from deployment, civic engagement (one school day per year for middle and high school) suspension except for certain violations as provided in the current version of Regulation 2601: Student Rights and Responsibilities, or another reason acceptable to the principal or their designee. Parents or guardians and students are encouraged to prearrange excused absences when possible.”

Sure, as I stated upthread, you are welcome to LIE. And we’ll give your child the work, of course. But that’s on you and your conscience as you teach disrespect of rules and others to your child.

But you won’t get us to agree with your “I am LORD” attitude. Your interpretation is simply wrong, no matter what twist you try to put on it.
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Anonymous wrote:An absence is excused if a parent says it is. The parent is who calls the school. If the Admin (not the teacher) wants to request additional information they’re provided a note from the professional the parent selects to say the date the student will return to school. I don’t know where you get this idea that vacations are always unexcused absence.


Well, the school system doesn’t agree with your “the parent calls all the shots” interpretation of the rules. I’m not seeing “vacation” below:

“Legitimate reasons may include: illness (including
mental health challenges), injury, legal obligations, medical procedures, death in the family, a doctor or dental appointment, religious or cultural observance, military obligation, deployment of a military family member or visit from a family member who has immediately returned from deployment, civic engagement (one school day per year for middle and high school) suspension except for certain violations as provided in the current version of Regulation 2601: Student Rights and Responsibilities, or another reason acceptable to the principal or their designee. Parents or guardians and students are encouraged to prearrange excused absences when possible.”

Sure, as I stated upthread, you are welcome to LIE. And we’ll give your child the work, of course. But that’s on you and your conscience as you teach disrespect of rules and others to your child.

But you won’t get us to agree with your “I am LORD” attitude. Your interpretation is simply wrong, no matter what twist you try to put on it.


Zero of the things you list require a geographical location. If I decide my child will visit a relative returning from the armed forces in the Caribbean, that’s none of your concern. Cultural observation takes place where the parents say it does, including Europe.


And even if all of the above wasn’t true, the person who has to agree is still not the teacher.

So now that we agree, it is part of your job. We can agree it is not extra work.
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Anonymous wrote:An absence is excused if a parent says it is. The parent is who calls the school. If the Admin (not the teacher) wants to request additional information they’re provided a note from the professional the parent selects to say the date the student will return to school. I don’t know where you get this idea that vacations are always unexcused absence.


Well, the school system doesn’t agree with your “the parent calls all the shots” interpretation of the rules. I’m not seeing “vacation” below:

“Legitimate reasons may include: illness (including
mental health challenges), injury, legal obligations, medical procedures, death in the family, a doctor or dental appointment, religious or cultural observance, military obligation, deployment of a military family member or visit from a family member who has immediately returned from deployment, civic engagement (one school day per year for middle and high school) suspension except for certain violations as provided in the current version of Regulation 2601: Student Rights and Responsibilities, or another reason acceptable to the principal or their designee. Parents or guardians and students are encouraged to prearrange excused absences when possible.”

Sure, as I stated upthread, you are welcome to LIE. And we’ll give your child the work, of course. But that’s on you and your conscience as you teach disrespect of rules and others to your child.

But you won’t get us to agree with your “I am LORD” attitude. Your interpretation is simply wrong, no matter what twist you try to put on it.


Zero of the things you list require a geographical location. If I decide my child will visit a relative returning from the armed forces in the Caribbean, that’s none of your concern. Cultural observation takes place where the parents say it does, including Europe.


And even if all of the above wasn’t true, the person who has to agree is still not the teacher.

So now that we agree, it is part of your job. We can agree it is not extra work.


It’s like addressing an obstinate child.

You bolded the part about the principal finding your excuse acceptable. Um… principals aren’t going to fake data for you simply because who throw a tantrum. They’ve seen it before, and they can handle you quite easily.

Scream “it’s your job to placate me” all you want. It doesn’t make it true. You go on a vacation? Great. I’ll help your kid because your kid isn’t the pain. You are. But it’ll never be “my job,”
no matter how big of a tantrum you throw.

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Anonymous wrote:An absence is excused if a parent says it is. The parent is who calls the school. If the Admin (not the teacher) wants to request additional information they’re provided a note from the professional the parent selects to say the date the student will return to school. I don’t know where you get this idea that vacations are always unexcused absence.


Well, the school system doesn’t agree with your “the parent calls all the shots” interpretation of the rules. I’m not seeing “vacation” below:

“Legitimate reasons may include: illness (including
mental health challenges), injury, legal obligations, medical procedures, death in the family, a doctor or dental appointment, religious or cultural observance, military obligation, deployment of a military family member or visit from a family member who has immediately returned from deployment, civic engagement (one school day per year for middle and high school) suspension except for certain violations as provided in the current version of Regulation 2601: Student Rights and Responsibilities, or another reason acceptable to the principal or their designee. Parents or guardians and students are encouraged to prearrange excused absences when possible.”

Sure, as I stated upthread, you are welcome to LIE. And we’ll give your child the work, of course. But that’s on you and your conscience as you teach disrespect of rules and others to your child.

But you won’t get us to agree with your “I am LORD” attitude. Your interpretation is simply wrong, no matter what twist you try to put on it.


Zero of the things you list require a geographical location. If I decide my child will visit a relative returning from the armed forces in the Caribbean, that’s none of your concern. Cultural observation takes place where the parents say it does, including Europe.


And even if all of the above wasn’t true, the person who has to agree is still not the teacher.

So now that we agree, it is part of your job. We can agree it is not extra work.


SO you want to creatively obscure the reason for a trip and don’t want a teacher to do extra work and create a packet ahead of time for your child’s trip?

Cool- Lexia and ST math 30 minutes of each a day and check Schoology. No extra work involved at all. Have a great time on your “emergency trip!”
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