Teachers with over 10 absences

[Anonymous]

An absence is excused if a parent says it is. The parent is who calls the school. If the Admin (not the teacher) wants to request additional information they’re provided a note from the professional the parent selects to say the date the student will return to school. I don’t know where you get this idea that vacations are always unexcused absence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:An absence is excused if a parent says it is. The parent is who calls the school. If the Admin (not the teacher) wants to request additional information they’re provided a note from the professional the parent selects to say the date the student will return to school. I don’t know where you get this idea that vacations are always unexcused absence.

Well, the school system doesn’t agree with your “the parent calls all the shots” interpretation of the rules. I’m not seeing “vacation” below:

“Legitimate reasons may include: illness (including
mental health challenges), injury, legal obligations, medical procedures, death in the family, a doctor or dental appointment, religious or cultural observance, military obligation, deployment of a military family member or visit from a family member who has immediately returned from deployment, civic engagement (one school day per year for middle and high school) suspension except for certain violations as provided in the current version of Regulation 2601: Student Rights and Responsibilities, or another reason acceptable to the principal or their designee. Parents or guardians and students are encouraged to prearrange excused absences when possible.”

Sure, as I stated upthread, you are welcome to LIE. And we’ll give your child the work, of course. But that’s on you and your conscience as you teach disrespect of rules and others to your child.

But you won’t get us to agree with your “I am LORD” attitude. Your interpretation is simply wrong, no matter what twist you try to put on it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:An absence is excused if a parent says it is. The parent is who calls the school. If the Admin (not the teacher) wants to request additional information they’re provided a note from the professional the parent selects to say the date the student will return to school. I don’t know where you get this idea that vacations are always unexcused absence.

Well, the school system doesn’t agree with your “the parent calls all the shots” interpretation of the rules. I’m not seeing “vacation” below:

“Legitimate reasons may include: illness (including
mental health challenges), injury, legal obligations, medical procedures, death in the family, a doctor or dental appointment, religious or cultural observance, military obligation, deployment of a military family member or visit from a family member who has immediately returned from deployment, civic engagement (one school day per year for middle and high school) suspension except for certain violations as provided in the current version of Regulation 2601: Student Rights and Responsibilities, or another reason acceptable to the principal or their designee. Parents or guardians and students are encouraged to prearrange excused absences when possible.”

Sure, as I stated upthread, you are welcome to LIE. And we’ll give your child the work, of course. But that’s on you and your conscience as you teach disrespect of rules and others to your child.

But you won’t get us to agree with your “I am LORD” attitude. Your interpretation is simply wrong, no matter what twist you try to put on it.

Zero of the things you list require a geographical location. If I decide my child will visit a relative returning from the armed forces in the Caribbean, that’s none of your concern. Cultural observation takes place where the parents say it does, including Europe.


And even if all of the above wasn’t true, the person who has to agree is still not the teacher.

So now that we agree, it is part of your job. We can agree it is not extra work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:An absence is excused if a parent says it is. The parent is who calls the school. If the Admin (not the teacher) wants to request additional information they’re provided a note from the professional the parent selects to say the date the student will return to school. I don’t know where you get this idea that vacations are always unexcused absence.

Well, the school system doesn’t agree with your “the parent calls all the shots” interpretation of the rules. I’m not seeing “vacation” below:

“Legitimate reasons may include: illness (including
mental health challenges), injury, legal obligations, medical procedures, death in the family, a doctor or dental appointment, religious or cultural observance, military obligation, deployment of a military family member or visit from a family member who has immediately returned from deployment, civic engagement (one school day per year for middle and high school) suspension except for certain violations as provided in the current version of Regulation 2601: Student Rights and Responsibilities, or another reason acceptable to the principal or their designee. Parents or guardians and students are encouraged to prearrange excused absences when possible.”

Sure, as I stated upthread, you are welcome to LIE. And we’ll give your child the work, of course. But that’s on you and your conscience as you teach disrespect of rules and others to your child.

But you won’t get us to agree with your “I am LORD” attitude. Your interpretation is simply wrong, no matter what twist you try to put on it.

Zero of the things you list require a geographical location. If I decide my child will visit a relative returning from the armed forces in the Caribbean, that’s none of your concern. Cultural observation takes place where the parents say it does, including Europe.


And even if all of the above wasn’t true, the person who has to agree is still not the teacher.

So now that we agree, it is part of your job. We can agree it is not extra work.

It’s like addressing an obstinate child.

You bolded the part about the principal finding your excuse acceptable. Um… principals aren’t going to fake data for you simply because who throw a tantrum. They’ve seen it before, and they can handle you quite easily.

Scream “it’s your job to placate me” all you want. It doesn’t make it true. You go on a vacation? Great. I’ll help your kid because your kid isn’t the pain. You are. But it’ll never be “my job,”
no matter how big of a tantrum you throw.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:An absence is excused if a parent says it is. The parent is who calls the school. If the Admin (not the teacher) wants to request additional information they’re provided a note from the professional the parent selects to say the date the student will return to school. I don’t know where you get this idea that vacations are always unexcused absence.

Well, the school system doesn’t agree with your “the parent calls all the shots” interpretation of the rules. I’m not seeing “vacation” below:

“Legitimate reasons may include: illness (including
mental health challenges), injury, legal obligations, medical procedures, death in the family, a doctor or dental appointment, religious or cultural observance, military obligation, deployment of a military family member or visit from a family member who has immediately returned from deployment, civic engagement (one school day per year for middle and high school) suspension except for certain violations as provided in the current version of Regulation 2601: Student Rights and Responsibilities, or another reason acceptable to the principal or their designee. Parents or guardians and students are encouraged to prearrange excused absences when possible.”

Sure, as I stated upthread, you are welcome to LIE. And we’ll give your child the work, of course. But that’s on you and your conscience as you teach disrespect of rules and others to your child.

But you won’t get us to agree with your “I am LORD” attitude. Your interpretation is simply wrong, no matter what twist you try to put on it.

Zero of the things you list require a geographical location. If I decide my child will visit a relative returning from the armed forces in the Caribbean, that’s none of your concern. Cultural observation takes place where the parents say it does, including Europe.


And even if all of the above wasn’t true, the person who has to agree is still not the teacher.

So now that we agree, it is part of your job. We can agree it is not extra work.

SO you want to creatively obscure the reason for a trip and don’t want a teacher to do extra work and create a packet ahead of time for your child’s trip?

Cool- Lexia and ST math 30 minutes of each a day and check Schoology. No extra work involved at all. Have a great time on your “emergency trip!”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Never saw a teacher contract that said teachers had to provide work for students who vacation at the whim of their families.

It’s a courtesy for which you should be grateful.

When you ask for work on something that wasn’t taught yet, the teacher has to scaffold it to be doable for the kid.

Can’t tell you how many times I’ve watched teachers scurry to put together a packet that is never touched.

Teachers have to provide work for excused absences. Whether that absence is excused is at the discretion of the parent.

Nope. You are not correct there.
But you can dream it.

In fact, parents who take their kids to visit in other countries over a period of months not only cannot expect to take a prepared curriculum with them, they can be disenrolled after an extended absence. The parent does not have[i] the authority to excuse the student[/i]. They do have the right to home school, but that will not be supported by the school they are not attending.

Don’t worry, soon the robots can travel with you. No need for teachers or parents.

Incorrect. If I decided as my child psychological best interest to be out, the absence is excused. Your administrators may choose to ask for a note which is easily provided, but teachers have no say.

No one said teachers determine this.

Usually if a kid is sick, a parent confirms that with the school. Extended absence might need a doctor’s note.

Who needs HIPPA dragged in? Either the doctor says legit or not. If you’re. Asking for work in advance, are you planning to get your kid sick?
If you choose to lie, that’s your prerogative. When the lie becomes obvious don’t expect grace or extra help, or a teacher’s after school time.

If your kid is going in for major surgery or treatment (nope, you do not have to provide the diagnosis the only point on which you are correct) most teachers will do what they can to support your child.

When your kid returns from two weeks on the slopes in Switzerland with goggle shaped white surrounded by sunburn, go ahead, tell me all about your determination that they were sick.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:An absence is excused if a parent says it is. The parent is who calls the school. If the Admin (not the teacher) wants to request additional information they’re provided a note from the professional the parent selects to say the date the student will return to school. I don’t know where you get this idea that vacations are always unexcused absence.

Well, the school system doesn’t agree with your “the parent calls all the shots” interpretation of the rules. I’m not seeing “vacation” below:

“Legitimate reasons may include: illness (including
mental health challenges), injury, legal obligations, medical procedures, death in the family, a doctor or dental appointment, religious or cultural observance, military obligation, deployment of a military family member or visit from a family member who has immediately returned from deployment, civic engagement (one school day per year for middle and high school) suspension except for certain violations as provided in the current version of Regulation 2601: Student Rights and Responsibilities, or another reason acceptable to the principal or their designee. Parents or guardians and students are encouraged to prearrange excused absences when possible.”

Sure, as I stated upthread, you are welcome to LIE. And we’ll give your child the work, of course. But that’s on you and your conscience as you teach disrespect of rules and others to your child.

But you won’t get us to agree with your “I am LORD” attitude. Your interpretation is simply wrong, no matter what twist you try to put on it.

Zero of the things you list require a geographical location. If I decide my child will visit a relative returning from the armed forces in the Caribbean, that’s none of your concern. Cultural observation takes place where the parents say it does, including Europe.


And even if all of the above wasn’t true, the person who has to agree is still not the teacher.

So now that we agree, it is part of your job. We can agree it is not extra work.

Do you include the location in your note? Or conveniently choose to leave that part off?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve never made a work packet for any student going on vacation. I wouldn’t even consider it. It’s an unexcused absence. I did make something basic when one of my students went to her grandmother’s funeral in China.

100%, I made them my first 2 years and then didn’t for the next 13 years. They can figure it out when they return.

Our ES’s parent handbook says that we should not request work in advance of a planned absence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:An absence is excused if a parent says it is. The parent is who calls the school. If the Admin (not the teacher) wants to request additional information they’re provided a note from the professional the parent selects to say the date the student will return to school. I don’t know where you get this idea that vacations are always unexcused absence.

Well, the school system doesn’t agree with your “the parent calls all the shots” interpretation of the rules. I’m not seeing “vacation” below:

“Legitimate reasons may include: illness (including
mental health challenges), injury, legal obligations, medical procedures, death in the family, a doctor or dental appointment, religious or cultural observance, military obligation, deployment of a military family member or visit from a family member who has immediately returned from deployment, civic engagement (one school day per year for middle and high school) suspension except for certain violations as provided in the current version of Regulation 2601: Student Rights and Responsibilities, or another reason acceptable to the principal or their designee. Parents or guardians and students are encouraged to prearrange excused absences when possible.”

Sure, as I stated upthread, you are welcome to LIE. And we’ll give your child the work, of course. But that’s on you and your conscience as you teach disrespect of rules and others to your child.

But you won’t get us to agree with your “I am LORD” attitude. Your interpretation is simply wrong, no matter what twist you try to put on it.

Zero of the things you list require a geographical location. If I decide my child will visit a relative returning from the armed forces in the Caribbean, that’s none of your concern. Cultural observation takes place where the parents say it does, including Europe.


And even if all of the above wasn’t true, the person who has to agree is still not the teacher.

So now that we agree, it is part of your job. We can agree it is not extra work.

SO you want to creatively obscure the reason for a trip and don’t want a teacher to do extra work and create a packet ahead of time for your child’s trip?

Cool- Lexia and ST math 30 minutes of each a day and check Schoology. No extra work involved at all. Have a great time on your “emergency trip!”

No need for a packet, my kid will be learning more at Carnival. Any exams they miss will be made up following the school rules for makeup exams. I’m glad we’ve all agreed this isn’t some sort of extra special work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Never saw a teacher contract that said teachers had to provide work for students who vacation at the whim of their families.

It’s a courtesy for which you should be grateful.

When you ask for work on something that wasn’t taught yet, the teacher has to scaffold it to be doable for the kid.

Can’t tell you how many times I’ve watched teachers scurry to put together a packet that is never touched.

Teachers have to provide work for excused absences. Whether that absence is excused is at the discretion of the parent.

Nope. You are not correct there.
But you can dream it.

In fact, parents who take their kids to visit in other countries over a period of months not only cannot expect to take a prepared curriculum with them, they can be disenrolled after an extended absence. The parent does not have[i] the authority to excuse the student[/i]. They do have the right to home school, but that will not be supported by the school they are not attending.

Don’t worry, soon the robots can travel with you. No need for teachers or parents.

Incorrect. If I decided as my child psychological best interest to be out, the absence is excused. Your administrators may choose to ask for a note which is easily provided, but teachers have no say.

No one said teachers determine this.

Usually if a kid is sick, a parent confirms that with the school. Extended absence might need a doctor’s note.

Who needs HIPPA dragged in? Either the doctor says legit or not. If you’re. Asking for work in advance, are you planning to get your kid sick?
If you choose to lie, that’s your prerogative. When the lie becomes obvious don’t expect grace or extra help, or a teacher’s after school time.

If your kid is going in for major surgery or treatment (nope, you do not have to provide the diagnosis the only point on which you are correct) most teachers will do what they can to support your child.

When your kid returns from two weeks on the slopes in Switzerland with goggle shaped white surrounded by sunburn, go ahead, tell me all about your determination that they were sick.

Makeup exams at our school are given after school by policy. If that’s such a burden on your “time” feel free to discuss it with your employer. You don’t get to decide because you don’t like that a kid went to Switzerland for religious or cultural observance that you won’t do it. Sorry to burst the power trip bubble.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Never saw a teacher contract that said teachers had to provide work for students who vacation at the whim of their families.

It’s a courtesy for which you should be grateful.

When you ask for work on something that wasn’t taught yet, the teacher has to scaffold it to be doable for the kid.

Can’t tell you how many times I’ve watched teachers scurry to put together a packet that is never touched.

Teachers have to provide work for excused absences. Whether that absence is excused is at the discretion of the parent.

Nope. You are not correct there.
But you can dream it.

In fact, parents who take their kids to visit in other countries over a period of months not only cannot expect to take a prepared curriculum with them, they can be disenrolled after an extended absence. The parent does not have[i] the authority to excuse the student[/i]. They do have the right to home school, but that will not be supported by the school they are not attending.

Don’t worry, soon the robots can travel with you. No need for teachers or parents.

Incorrect. If I decided as my child psychological best interest to be out, the absence is excused. Your administrators may choose to ask for a note which is easily provided, but teachers have no say.

No one said teachers determine this.

Usually if a kid is sick, a parent confirms that with the school. Extended absence might need a doctor’s note.

Who needs HIPPA dragged in? Either the doctor says legit or not. If you’re. Asking for work in advance, are you planning to get your kid sick?
If you choose to lie, that’s your prerogative. When the lie becomes obvious don’t expect grace or extra help, or a teacher’s after school time.

If your kid is going in for major surgery or treatment (nope, you do not have to provide the diagnosis the only point on which you are correct) most teachers will do what they can to support your child.

When your kid returns from two weeks on the slopes in Switzerland with goggle shaped white surrounded by sunburn, go ahead, tell me all about your determination that they were sick.

Again, there is no need to lie. Doctors note says what day the kid is coming back. Absence is fully excused and within policy. Where the absence takes place has nothing to do with policy. I’m sorry this bothers you so much.

[Anonymous]

Hey, teachers… it really isn’t worth it. This poster is practically gleeful about the opportunity to bypass policies while simultaneously convincing himself that it’s “excused.”

We know it’s extra work. We know we do the work in support of the child, not because “King Parent” decrees it’s a requirement in our contract (which it isn’t).

And that’s all that matters. Let this parent continue making up stories. It changes nothing in how we respond in the classroom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:An absence is excused if a parent says it is. The parent is who calls the school. If the Admin (not the teacher) wants to request additional information they’re provided a note from the professional the parent selects to say the date the student will return to school. I don’t know where you get this idea that vacations are always unexcused absence.

Well, the school system doesn’t agree with your “the parent calls all the shots” interpretation of the rules. I’m not seeing “vacation” below:

“Legitimate reasons may include: illness (including
mental health challenges), injury, legal obligations, medical procedures, death in the family, a doctor or dental appointment, religious or cultural observance, military obligation, deployment of a military family member or visit from a family member who has immediately returned from deployment, civic engagement (one school day per year for middle and high school) suspension except for certain violations as provided in the current version of Regulation 2601: Student Rights and Responsibilities, or another reason acceptable to the principal or their designee. Parents or guardians and students are encouraged to prearrange excused absences when possible.”

Sure, as I stated upthread, you are welcome to LIE. And we’ll give your child the work, of course. But that’s on you and your conscience as you teach disrespect of rules and others to your child.

But you won’t get us to agree with your “I am LORD” attitude. Your interpretation is simply wrong, no matter what twist you try to put on it.

Zero of the things you list require a geographical location. If I decide my child will visit a relative returning from the armed forces in the Caribbean, that’s none of your concern. Cultural observation takes place where the parents say it does, including Europe.


And even if all of the above wasn’t true, the person who has to agree is still not the teacher.

So now that we agree, it is part of your job. We can agree it is not extra work.

SO you want to creatively obscure the reason for a trip and don’t want a teacher to do extra work and create a packet ahead of time for your child’s trip?

Cool- Lexia and ST math 30 minutes of each a day and check Schoology. No extra work involved at all. Have a great time on your “emergency trip!”

No need for a packet, my kid will be learning more at Carnival. Any exams they miss will be made up following the school rules for makeup exams. I’m glad we’ve all agreed this isn’t some sort of extra special work.

You are funny because you think every person is just like you and therefore you and your situation are the policy. I guess you haven’t passed out of the egocentric stage of development.


Again have a great time! Enjoy your emergency carnival!

[Anonymous]

Ps please make sure your trip is longer than15 business days! It makes it easier for kids to make up work then…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:An absence is excused if a parent says it is. The parent is who calls the school. If the Admin (not the teacher) wants to request additional information they’re provided a note from the professional the parent selects to say the date the student will return to school. I don’t know where you get this idea that vacations are always unexcused absence.

Well, the school system doesn’t agree with your “the parent calls all the shots” interpretation of the rules. I’m not seeing “vacation” below:

“Legitimate reasons may include: illness (including
mental health challenges), injury, legal obligations, medical procedures, death in the family, a doctor or dental appointment, religious or cultural observance, military obligation, deployment of a military family member or visit from a family member who has immediately returned from deployment, civic engagement (one school day per year for middle and high school) suspension except for certain violations as provided in the current version of Regulation 2601: Student Rights and Responsibilities, or another reason acceptable to the principal or their designee. Parents or guardians and students are encouraged to prearrange excused absences when possible.”

Sure, as I stated upthread, you are welcome to LIE. And we’ll give your child the work, of course. But that’s on you and your conscience as you teach disrespect of rules and others to your child.

But you won’t get us to agree with your “I am LORD” attitude. Your interpretation is simply wrong, no matter what twist you try to put on it.

Zero of the things you list require a geographical location. If I decide my child will visit a relative returning from the armed forces in the Caribbean, that’s none of your concern. Cultural observation takes place where the parents say it does, including Europe.


And even if all of the above wasn’t true, the person who has to agree is still not the teacher.

So now that we agree, it is part of your job. We can agree it is not extra work.

SO you want to creatively obscure the reason for a trip and don’t want a teacher to do extra work and create a packet ahead of time for your child’s trip?

Cool- Lexia and ST math 30 minutes of each a day and check Schoology. No extra work involved at all. Have a great time on your “emergency trip!”

No need for a packet, my kid will be learning more at Carnival. Any exams they miss will be made up following the school rules for makeup exams. I’m glad we’ve all agreed this isn’t some sort of extra special work.

You are funny because you think every person is just like you and therefore you and your situation are the policy. I guess you haven’t passed out of the egocentric stage of development.


Again have a great time! Enjoy your emergency carnival!

The person using the word “emergency” is only you and Carnival is a cultural observance in much of Europe in early spring. I hope you don’t teach any kind of European history.