Teachers with over 10 absences

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Anonymous wrote:An absence is excused if a parent says it is. The parent is who calls the school. If the Admin (not the teacher) wants to request additional information they’re provided a note from the professional the parent selects to say the date the student will return to school. I don’t know where you get this idea that vacations are always unexcused absence.


Well, the school system doesn’t agree with your “the parent calls all the shots” interpretation of the rules. I’m not seeing “vacation” below:

“Legitimate reasons may include: illness (including
mental health challenges), injury, legal obligations, medical procedures, death in the family, a doctor or dental appointment, religious or cultural observance, military obligation, deployment of a military family member or visit from a family member who has immediately returned from deployment, civic engagement (one school day per year for middle and high school) suspension except for certain violations as provided in the current version of Regulation 2601: Student Rights and Responsibilities, or another reason acceptable to the principal or their designee. Parents or guardians and students are encouraged to prearrange excused absences when possible.”

Sure, as I stated upthread, you are welcome to LIE. And we’ll give your child the work, of course. But that’s on you and your conscience as you teach disrespect of rules and others to your child.

But you won’t get us to agree with your “I am LORD” attitude. Your interpretation is simply wrong, no matter what twist you try to put on it.


Zero of the things you list require a geographical location. If I decide my child will visit a relative returning from the armed forces in the Caribbean, that’s none of your concern. Cultural observation takes place where the parents say it does, including Europe.


And even if all of the above wasn’t true, the person who has to agree is still not the teacher.

So now that we agree, it is part of your job. We can agree it is not extra work.


SO you want to creatively obscure the reason for a trip and don’t want a teacher to do extra work and create a packet ahead of time for your child’s trip?

Cool- Lexia and ST math 30 minutes of each a day and check Schoology. No extra work involved at all. Have a great time on your “emergency trip!”


No need for a packet, my kid will be learning more at Carnival. Any exams they miss will be made up following the school rules for makeup exams. I’m glad we’ve all agreed this isn’t some sort of extra special work.


You are funny because you think every person is just like you and therefore you and your situation are the policy. I guess you haven’t passed out of the egocentric stage of development.


Again have a great time! Enjoy your emergency carnival!


The person using the word “emergency” is only you and Carnival is a cultural observance in much of Europe in early spring. I hope you don’t teach any kind of European history.


DP and I had no problem understanding the point. Attending Carnival would be considered a vacation in logical people’s eyes. So we are able to assume you manipulated attendance policy to make it happen.

Again. Enjoy. Just don’t expect us not to see right through it. You can go. We’ll provide the work (at our expense.) But we won’t fall for your lies.

So you win? I guess? I don’t know… you care more than I do.
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Anonymous wrote:An absence is excused if a parent says it is. The parent is who calls the school. If the Admin (not the teacher) wants to request additional information they’re provided a note from the professional the parent selects to say the date the student will return to school. I don’t know where you get this idea that vacations are always unexcused absence.


Well, the school system doesn’t agree with your “the parent calls all the shots” interpretation of the rules. I’m not seeing “vacation” below:

“Legitimate reasons may include: illness (including
mental health challenges), injury, legal obligations, medical procedures, death in the family, a doctor or dental appointment, religious or cultural observance, military obligation, deployment of a military family member or visit from a family member who has immediately returned from deployment, civic engagement (one school day per year for middle and high school) suspension except for certain violations as provided in the current version of Regulation 2601: Student Rights and Responsibilities, or another reason acceptable to the principal or their designee. Parents or guardians and students are encouraged to prearrange excused absences when possible.”

Sure, as I stated upthread, you are welcome to LIE. And we’ll give your child the work, of course. But that’s on you and your conscience as you teach disrespect of rules and others to your child.

But you won’t get us to agree with your “I am LORD” attitude. Your interpretation is simply wrong, no matter what twist you try to put on it.


Zero of the things you list require a geographical location. If I decide my child will visit a relative returning from the armed forces in the Caribbean, that’s none of your concern. Cultural observation takes place where the parents say it does, including Europe.


And even if all of the above wasn’t true, the person who has to agree is still not the teacher.

So now that we agree, it is part of your job. We can agree it is not extra work.


SO you want to creatively obscure the reason for a trip and don’t want a teacher to do extra work and create a packet ahead of time for your child’s trip?

Cool- Lexia and ST math 30 minutes of each a day and check Schoology. No extra work involved at all. Have a great time on your “emergency trip!”


No need for a packet, my kid will be learning more at Carnival. Any exams they miss will be made up following the school rules for makeup exams. I’m glad we’ve all agreed this isn’t some sort of extra special work.


You are funny because you think every person is just like you and therefore you and your situation are the policy. I guess you haven’t passed out of the egocentric stage of development.


Again have a great time! Enjoy your emergency carnival!


The person using the word “emergency” is only you and Carnival is a cultural observance in much of Europe in early spring. I hope you don’t teach any kind of European history.


DP and I had no problem understanding the point. Attending Carnival would be considered a vacation in logical people’s eyes. So we are able to assume you manipulated attendance policy to make it happen.

Again. Enjoy. Just don’t expect us not to see right through it. You can go. We’ll provide the work (at our expense.) But we won’t fall for your lies.

So you win? I guess? I don’t know… you care more than I do.


An attendance policy which allows cultural observance…being used to cultural observance. Yeah that’s some high-end manipulation right there. No one cares about you “seeing through” anything, because it’s nothing to do with you. You’re just the ones complaining about doing your jobs.
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Anonymous wrote:An absence is excused if a parent says it is. The parent is who calls the school. If the Admin (not the teacher) wants to request additional information they’re provided a note from the professional the parent selects to say the date the student will return to school. I don’t know where you get this idea that vacations are always unexcused absence.


Well, the school system doesn’t agree with your “the parent calls all the shots” interpretation of the rules. I’m not seeing “vacation” below:

“Legitimate reasons may include: illness (including
mental health challenges), injury, legal obligations, medical procedures, death in the family, a doctor or dental appointment, religious or cultural observance, military obligation, deployment of a military family member or visit from a family member who has immediately returned from deployment, civic engagement (one school day per year for middle and high school) suspension except for certain violations as provided in the current version of Regulation 2601: Student Rights and Responsibilities, or another reason acceptable to the principal or their designee. Parents or guardians and students are encouraged to prearrange excused absences when possible.”

Sure, as I stated upthread, you are welcome to LIE. And we’ll give your child the work, of course. But that’s on you and your conscience as you teach disrespect of rules and others to your child.

But you won’t get us to agree with your “I am LORD” attitude. Your interpretation is simply wrong, no matter what twist you try to put on it.


Zero of the things you list require a geographical location. If I decide my child will visit a relative returning from the armed forces in the Caribbean, that’s none of your concern. Cultural observation takes place where the parents say it does, including Europe.


And even if all of the above wasn’t true, the person who has to agree is still not the teacher.

So now that we agree, it is part of your job. We can agree it is not extra work.


SO you want to creatively obscure the reason for a trip and don’t want a teacher to do extra work and create a packet ahead of time for your child’s trip?

Cool- Lexia and ST math 30 minutes of each a day and check Schoology. No extra work involved at all. Have a great time on your “emergency trip!”


No need for a packet, my kid will be learning more at Carnival. Any exams they miss will be made up following the school rules for makeup exams. I’m glad we’ve all agreed this isn’t some sort of extra special work.


You are funny because you think every person is just like you and therefore you and your situation are the policy. I guess you haven’t passed out of the egocentric stage of development.


Again have a great time! Enjoy your emergency carnival!


The person using the word “emergency” is only you and Carnival is a cultural observance in much of Europe in early spring. I hope you don’t teach any kind of European history.


DP and I had no problem understanding the point. Attending Carnival would be considered a vacation in logical people’s eyes. So we are able to assume you manipulated attendance policy to make it happen.

Again. Enjoy. Just don’t expect us not to see right through it. You can go. We’ll provide the work (at our expense.) But we won’t fall for your lies.

So you win? I guess? I don’t know… you care more than I do.


An attendance policy which allows cultural observance…being used to cultural observance. Yeah that’s some high-end manipulation right there. No one cares about you “seeing through” anything, because it’s nothing to do with you. You’re just the ones complaining about doing your jobs.


Um, you may want to work on grammar before writing the excuse note…”being used to cultural observance” isn’t really understandable.
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Anonymous wrote:An absence is excused if a parent says it is. The parent is who calls the school. If the Admin (not the teacher) wants to request additional information they’re provided a note from the professional the parent selects to say the date the student will return to school. I don’t know where you get this idea that vacations are always unexcused absence.


Well, the school system doesn’t agree with your “the parent calls all the shots” interpretation of the rules. I’m not seeing “vacation” below:

“Legitimate reasons may include: illness (including
mental health challenges), injury, legal obligations, medical procedures, death in the family, a doctor or dental appointment, religious or cultural observance, military obligation, deployment of a military family member or visit from a family member who has immediately returned from deployment, civic engagement (one school day per year for middle and high school) suspension except for certain violations as provided in the current version of Regulation 2601: Student Rights and Responsibilities, or another reason acceptable to the principal or their designee. Parents or guardians and students are encouraged to prearrange excused absences when possible.”

Sure, as I stated upthread, you are welcome to LIE. And we’ll give your child the work, of course. But that’s on you and your conscience as you teach disrespect of rules and others to your child.

But you won’t get us to agree with your “I am LORD” attitude. Your interpretation is simply wrong, no matter what twist you try to put on it.


Zero of the things you list require a geographical location. If I decide my child will visit a relative returning from the armed forces in the Caribbean, that’s none of your concern. Cultural observation takes place where the parents say it does, including Europe.


And even if all of the above wasn’t true, the person who has to agree is still not the teacher.

So now that we agree, it is part of your job. We can agree it is not extra work.


SO you want to creatively obscure the reason for a trip and don’t want a teacher to do extra work and create a packet ahead of time for your child’s trip?

Cool- Lexia and ST math 30 minutes of each a day and check Schoology. No extra work involved at all. Have a great time on your “emergency trip!”


No need for a packet, my kid will be learning more at Carnival. Any exams they miss will be made up following the school rules for makeup exams. I’m glad we’ve all agreed this isn’t some sort of extra special work.


You are funny because you think every person is just like you and therefore you and your situation are the policy. I guess you haven’t passed out of the egocentric stage of development.


Again have a great time! Enjoy your emergency carnival!


The person using the word “emergency” is only you and Carnival is a cultural observance in much of Europe in early spring. I hope you don’t teach any kind of European history.


DP and I had no problem understanding the point. Attending Carnival would be considered a vacation in logical people’s eyes. So we are able to assume you manipulated attendance policy to make it happen.

Again. Enjoy. Just don’t expect us not to see right through it. You can go. We’ll provide the work (at our expense.) But we won’t fall for your lies.

So you win? I guess? I don’t know… you care more than I do.


An attendance policy which allows cultural observance…being used to cultural observance. Yeah that’s some high-end manipulation right there. No one cares about you “seeing through” anything, because it’s nothing to do with you. You’re just the ones complaining about doing your jobs.


Um, you may want to work on grammar before writing the excuse note…”being used to cultural observance” isn’t really understandable.


Well, let’s be fair. This parent wants to claim “cultural observance” means “visiting another country”… you know, like a vacation. It’s manipulating and in poor taste.

I doubt grammar is at the top of the to-do list.
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Anonymous wrote:An absence is excused if a parent says it is. The parent is who calls the school. If the Admin (not the teacher) wants to request additional information they’re provided a note from the professional the parent selects to say the date the student will return to school. I don’t know where you get this idea that vacations are always unexcused absence.


Well, the school system doesn’t agree with your “the parent calls all the shots” interpretation of the rules. I’m not seeing “vacation” below:

“Legitimate reasons may include: illness (including
mental health challenges), injury, legal obligations, medical procedures, death in the family, a doctor or dental appointment, religious or cultural observance, military obligation, deployment of a military family member or visit from a family member who has immediately returned from deployment, civic engagement (one school day per year for middle and high school) suspension except for certain violations as provided in the current version of Regulation 2601: Student Rights and Responsibilities, or another reason acceptable to the principal or their designee. Parents or guardians and students are encouraged to prearrange excused absences when possible.”

Sure, as I stated upthread, you are welcome to LIE. And we’ll give your child the work, of course. But that’s on you and your conscience as you teach disrespect of rules and others to your child.

But you won’t get us to agree with your “I am LORD” attitude. Your interpretation is simply wrong, no matter what twist you try to put on it.


Zero of the things you list require a geographical location. If I decide my child will visit a relative returning from the armed forces in the Caribbean, that’s none of your concern. Cultural observation takes place where the parents say it does, including Europe.


And even if all of the above wasn’t true, the person who has to agree is still not the teacher.

So now that we agree, it is part of your job. We can agree it is not extra work.


SO you want to creatively obscure the reason for a trip and don’t want a teacher to do extra work and create a packet ahead of time for your child’s trip?

Cool- Lexia and ST math 30 minutes of each a day and check Schoology. No extra work involved at all. Have a great time on your “emergency trip!”


No need for a packet, my kid will be learning more at Carnival. Any exams they miss will be made up following the school rules for makeup exams. I’m glad we’ve all agreed this isn’t some sort of extra special work.


You are funny because you think every person is just like you and therefore you and your situation are the policy. I guess you haven’t passed out of the egocentric stage of development.


Again have a great time! Enjoy your emergency carnival!


The person using the word “emergency” is only you and Carnival is a cultural observance in much of Europe in early spring. I hope you don’t teach any kind of European history.


DP and I had no problem understanding the point. Attending Carnival would be considered a vacation in logical people’s eyes. So we are able to assume you manipulated attendance policy to make it happen.

Again. Enjoy. Just don’t expect us not to see right through it. You can go. We’ll provide the work (at our expense.) But we won’t fall for your lies.

So you win? I guess? I don’t know… you care more than I do.


An attendance policy which allows cultural observance…being used to cultural observance. Yeah that’s some high-end manipulation right there. No one cares about you “seeing through” anything, because it’s nothing to do with you. You’re just the ones complaining about doing your jobs.


Um, you may want to work on grammar before writing the excuse note…”being used to cultural observance” isn’t really understandable.


Well, let’s be fair. This parent wants to claim “cultural observance” means “visiting another country”… you know, like a vacation. It’s manipulating and in poor taste.

I doubt grammar is at the top of the to-do list.


You’re incredibly insular if you think that cultural observances don’t require travel to other countries. Is it just envy? Or do you really not have any knowledge of the world around you?
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Anonymous wrote:An absence is excused if a parent says it is. The parent is who calls the school. If the Admin (not the teacher) wants to request additional information they’re provided a note from the professional the parent selects to say the date the student will return to school. I don’t know where you get this idea that vacations are always unexcused absence.


Well, the school system doesn’t agree with your “the parent calls all the shots” interpretation of the rules. I’m not seeing “vacation” below:

“Legitimate reasons may include: illness (including
mental health challenges), injury, legal obligations, medical procedures, death in the family, a doctor or dental appointment, religious or cultural observance, military obligation, deployment of a military family member or visit from a family member who has immediately returned from deployment, civic engagement (one school day per year for middle and high school) suspension except for certain violations as provided in the current version of Regulation 2601: Student Rights and Responsibilities, or another reason acceptable to the principal or their designee. Parents or guardians and students are encouraged to prearrange excused absences when possible.”

Sure, as I stated upthread, you are welcome to LIE. And we’ll give your child the work, of course. But that’s on you and your conscience as you teach disrespect of rules and others to your child.

But you won’t get us to agree with your “I am LORD” attitude. Your interpretation is simply wrong, no matter what twist you try to put on it.


Zero of the things you list require a geographical location. If I decide my child will visit a relative returning from the armed forces in the Caribbean, that’s none of your concern. Cultural observation takes place where the parents say it does, including Europe.


And even if all of the above wasn’t true, the person who has to agree is still not the teacher.

So now that we agree, it is part of your job. We can agree it is not extra work.


SO you want to creatively obscure the reason for a trip and don’t want a teacher to do extra work and create a packet ahead of time for your child’s trip?

Cool- Lexia and ST math 30 minutes of each a day and check Schoology. No extra work involved at all. Have a great time on your “emergency trip!”


No need for a packet, my kid will be learning more at Carnival. Any exams they miss will be made up following the school rules for makeup exams. I’m glad we’ve all agreed this isn’t some sort of extra special work.


You are funny because you think every person is just like you and therefore you and your situation are the policy. I guess you haven’t passed out of the egocentric stage of development.


Again have a great time! Enjoy your emergency carnival!


The person using the word “emergency” is only you and Carnival is a cultural observance in much of Europe in early spring. I hope you don’t teach any kind of European history.


DP and I had no problem understanding the point. Attending Carnival would be considered a vacation in logical people’s eyes. So we are able to assume you manipulated attendance policy to make it happen.

Again. Enjoy. Just don’t expect us not to see right through it. You can go. We’ll provide the work (at our expense.) But we won’t fall for your lies.

So you win? I guess? I don’t know… you care more than I do.


An attendance policy which allows cultural observance…being used to cultural observance. Yeah that’s some high-end manipulation right there. No one cares about you “seeing through” anything, because it’s nothing to do with you. You’re just the ones complaining about doing your jobs.


Um, you may want to work on grammar before writing the excuse note…”being used to cultural observance” isn’t really understandable.


Well, let’s be fair. This parent wants to claim “cultural observance” means “visiting another country”… you know, like a vacation. It’s manipulating and in poor taste.

I doubt grammar is at the top of the to-do list.


You’re incredibly insular if you think that cultural observances don’t require travel to other countries. Is it just envy? Or do you really not have any knowledge of the world around you?


I’m not going to pretend for you. It’s a vacation and we both know it.

As you have established, this isn’t about child’s needs anyway. This is about your absurd desire to “own” the teacher and “demand” that the work for vacations is part of our contract. It’s not. Move on. Have your vacation and enjoy it. We’ll do the EXTRA work because we care about your kid, but not because of some contract clause that isn’t there.
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Anonymous wrote:An absence is excused if a parent says it is. The parent is who calls the school. If the Admin (not the teacher) wants to request additional information they’re provided a note from the professional the parent selects to say the date the student will return to school. I don’t know where you get this idea that vacations are always unexcused absence.


Well, the school system doesn’t agree with your “the parent calls all the shots” interpretation of the rules. I’m not seeing “vacation” below:

“Legitimate reasons may include: illness (including
mental health challenges), injury, legal obligations, medical procedures, death in the family, a doctor or dental appointment, religious or cultural observance, military obligation, deployment of a military family member or visit from a family member who has immediately returned from deployment, civic engagement (one school day per year for middle and high school) suspension except for certain violations as provided in the current version of Regulation 2601: Student Rights and Responsibilities, or another reason acceptable to the principal or their designee. Parents or guardians and students are encouraged to prearrange excused absences when possible.”

Sure, as I stated upthread, you are welcome to LIE. And we’ll give your child the work, of course. But that’s on you and your conscience as you teach disrespect of rules and others to your child.

But you won’t get us to agree with your “I am LORD” attitude. Your interpretation is simply wrong, no matter what twist you try to put on it.


Zero of the things you list require a geographical location. If I decide my child will visit a relative returning from the armed forces in the Caribbean, that’s none of your concern. Cultural observation takes place where the parents say it does, including Europe.


And even if all of the above wasn’t true, the person who has to agree is still not the teacher.

So now that we agree, it is part of your job. We can agree it is not extra work.


SO you want to creatively obscure the reason for a trip and don’t want a teacher to do extra work and create a packet ahead of time for your child’s trip?

Cool- Lexia and ST math 30 minutes of each a day and check Schoology. No extra work involved at all. Have a great time on your “emergency trip!”


No need for a packet, my kid will be learning more at Carnival. Any exams they miss will be made up following the school rules for makeup exams. I’m glad we’ve all agreed this isn’t some sort of extra special work.


You are funny because you think every person is just like you and therefore you and your situation are the policy. I guess you haven’t passed out of the egocentric stage of development.


Again have a great time! Enjoy your emergency carnival!


The person using the word “emergency” is only you and Carnival is a cultural observance in much of Europe in early spring. I hope you don’t teach any kind of European history.


It definitely is not. Some of us would dress up on Mardi Gras some years in elementary the way kids do here for Halloween, but that was about it. But maybe it is a village tradition in the boondocks you come from.

--teacher raised in a large European country.
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Anonymous wrote:Have you ever thought about what might happen to teachers who miss more than 10 days of work?



This was argued about last year. It's none of your business is it?
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do you ever wonder what happens when parents check out their kids for a day like every week in the school year?
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Anonymous wrote:Never saw a teacher contract that said teachers had to provide work for students who vacation at the whim of their families.

It’s a courtesy for which you should be grateful.

When you ask for work on something that wasn’t taught yet, the teacher has to scaffold it to be doable for the kid.

Can’t tell you how many times I’ve watched teachers scurry to put together a packet that is never touched.


Teachers have to provide work for excused absences. Whether that absence is excused is at the discretion of the parent.


Nope. You are not correct there.
But you can dream it.

In fact, parents who take their kids to visit in other countries over a period of months not only cannot expect to take a prepared curriculum with them, they can be disenrolled after an extended absence. The parent does not have the authority to excuse the student. They do have the right to home school, but that will not be supported by the school they are not attending.

Don’t worry, soon the robots can travel with you. No need for teachers or parents.


HIPAA says you have absolutely no right to knowledge of why my child is absent.


HIPAA has nothing to do with what you tell schools. Schools are not covered entitities under HIPAA.


Wrong again. If we provide information to the nurse of the administration, they are not permitted to share it with you.

That would be FERPA, not HIPAA.
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OP, why do you care? I rarely take leave from my job — I’ve been this way for years; however, I took off nearly 5 weeks last year because both parents were dying and I had a health issue. I was thankful I was able to spend time with my parents during their final days, as well as attend their funerals.

Have some grace.
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Anonymous wrote:Do you ever think about the teachers who don’t visit the doctor because they want to be present everyday?

Do they die earlier because of lack of medical care?

Would it matter to OP if it meant her kid had more consistency?


I’m not OP but do you get the impression doctors only work 185 days per year?


DP. My doctor works 3 days a week and has canceled two of my appointments this year last minute, making it ridiculously hard to reschedule since I’m limited to the last appointment of the day due to my teaching schedule.

The work flexibility she enjoys makes my life harder and keeps me from medical care.

But I’m not on here screaming about how “all doctors” create convenient schedules for themselves at the expense of their patients. You know… kind of like a poster here is screaming that teachers are enjoying vacations, etc., instead of using leave for more serious purposes.


I mean a poster is literally suggesting that OP wants teachers to die for lack of medical care, as though even if they taught all 195 days of their contract, there would not be plenty of days for medical care. Seems a little hysterical.


No, the PP “literally” didn’t say that. Don’t be ridiculous.

But it is true that it’s difficult for teachers to schedule medical appointments without missing class. Sorry, it just is. “No, that won’t work. What about next month? Anything after 4:30 is great. The month after that?”

Guess when doctors’ offices are open? On school days. And those holidays you love to point out? If the office is open, that is 100% the day I try to get. But I usually can’t because they are closed or booked solid.

I schedule the big things (colonoscopies, etc) for the summer. But you know what? Sometimes my medical needs don’t coincide with summer.


No doctors office in this area closes for 39 days between August and June please be serious. Nor are they booked solid for Eid. You are making teachers look entitled and yourself look absurd by trying to suggest a profession with incredible amounts of time off on weekdays is unable to access medical care.


I get frustrated when people who are outside of the profession speak as if they are experts. I snorted at your notion of “incredible amounts of time off on weekdays.” You are laughably ignorant of a teacher’s true schedule.

If saying it’s hard to make appointments after 4:30 makes me “entitled,” then I’ll happily own it. This just ventured into silliness.


Please don't feed the troll. If this profession was as flexible and privileged as this poster keeps arguing that it is, it wouldn't be such a struggle to staff classrooms with qualified teachers.


Fairfax doesn’t have a teacher shortage and isn’t taking sub applications. Your talking point belongs in another forum, or another year.



LOL yes it does. Reid cut positions and it makes it look good for the county but schools are way understaffed. Don't worry though everyone in Gatehouse is sitting comfy.
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Anonymous wrote:OP, why do you care? I rarely take leave from my job — I’ve been this way for years; however, I took off nearly 5 weeks last year because both parents were dying and I had a health issue. I was thankful I was able to spend time with my parents during their final days, as well as attend their funerals.

Have some grace.


OP are you the same parent constantly bashing teachers. Here is a suggestion....HOMESCHOOL!
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Anonymous wrote:An absence is excused if a parent says it is. The parent is who calls the school. If the Admin (not the teacher) wants to request additional information they’re provided a note from the professional the parent selects to say the date the student will return to school. I don’t know where you get this idea that vacations are always unexcused absence.


Well, the school system doesn’t agree with your “the parent calls all the shots” interpretation of the rules. I’m not seeing “vacation” below:

“Legitimate reasons may include: illness (including
mental health challenges), injury, legal obligations, medical procedures, death in the family, a doctor or dental appointment, religious or cultural observance, military obligation, deployment of a military family member or visit from a family member who has immediately returned from deployment, civic engagement (one school day per year for middle and high school) suspension except for certain violations as provided in the current version of Regulation 2601: Student Rights and Responsibilities, or another reason acceptable to the principal or their designee. Parents or guardians and students are encouraged to prearrange excused absences when possible.”

Sure, as I stated upthread, you are welcome to LIE. And we’ll give your child the work, of course. But that’s on you and your conscience as you teach disrespect of rules and others to your child.

But you won’t get us to agree with your “I am LORD” attitude. Your interpretation is simply wrong, no matter what twist you try to put on it.


Zero of the things you list require a geographical location. If I decide my child will visit a relative returning from the armed forces in the Caribbean, that’s none of your concern. Cultural observation takes place where the parents say it does, including Europe.


And even if all of the above wasn’t true, the person who has to agree is still not the teacher.

So now that we agree, it is part of your job. We can agree it is not extra work.


SO you want to creatively obscure the reason for a trip and don’t want a teacher to do extra work and create a packet ahead of time for your child’s trip?

Cool- Lexia and ST math 30 minutes of each a day and check Schoology. No extra work involved at all. Have a great time on your “emergency trip!”


No need for a packet, my kid will be learning more at Carnival. Any exams they miss will be made up following the school rules for makeup exams. I’m glad we’ve all agreed this isn’t some sort of extra special work.


You are funny because you think every person is just like you and therefore you and your situation are the policy. I guess you haven’t passed out of the egocentric stage of development.


Again have a great time! Enjoy your emergency carnival!


The person using the word “emergency” is only you and Carnival is a cultural observance in much of Europe in early spring. I hope you don’t teach any kind of European history.


DP and I had no problem understanding the point. Attending Carnival would be considered a vacation in logical people’s eyes. So we are able to assume you manipulated attendance policy to make it happen.

Again. Enjoy. Just don’t expect us not to see right through it. You can go. We’ll provide the work (at our expense.) But we won’t fall for your lies.

So you win? I guess? I don’t know… you care more than I do.


An attendance policy which allows cultural observance…being used to cultural observance. Yeah that’s some high-end manipulation right there. No one cares about you “seeing through” anything, because it’s nothing to do with you. You’re just the ones complaining about doing your jobs.


Um, you may want to work on grammar before writing the excuse note…”being used to cultural observance” isn’t really understandable.


Well, let’s be fair. This parent wants to claim “cultural observance” means “visiting another country”… you know, like a vacation. It’s manipulating and in poor taste.

I doubt grammar is at the top of the to-do list.


You’re incredibly insular if you think that cultural observances don’t require travel to other countries. Is it just envy? Or do you really not have any knowledge of the world around you?


I’m not going to pretend for you. It’s a vacation and we both know it.

As you have established, this isn’t about child’s needs anyway. This is about your absurd desire to “own” the teacher and “demand” that the work for vacations is part of our contract. It’s not. Move on. Have your vacation and enjoy it. We’ll do the EXTRA work because we care about your kid, but not because of some contract clause that isn’t there.


LOL honey thats what the money’s for. Sorry you don’t like your contracted job.
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I love my admin. If a kid is missing class for vacation, they fully support me putting in 0s and moving on. Kid can take the retake exam the day they return, but all the missed classwork stays 0s. I teach juniors and seniors, if you haven’t figured out the rules by now, that’s your problem.

On the flip side, I will bend over backwards for a true emergency. I’ve zoomed kids who couldn’t come to school for excused absences and taught them private mini lessons on Saturdays, I’ve written completely new assessments so they still were able to have multiple attempts, I’ve stayed until 7 pm on Fridays to catch up kids before they leave the next week for a family emergency.

But not for vacation. If you choose not to take advantage of my initial lesson because something else is more appealing, you can pay a tutor to get it on your own time.
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