APS ending block scheduling?

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Anonymous wrote:There are many kids at HB who come not knowing English at all. The big difference in my experience (have 1 at HB, 1 at a countywide) is that the teachers care more. A lot of teachers at countywide don’t care or are overworked and checked out.

Sure, but they don’t enter HB in February of 10th/11th/12th grade. What part of that don’t you understand?

Yes they do! What part of this don't YOU understand?

They do not. In the event a spot opens up it goes to someone on the waitlist

You just don't know what you don't know. Keep spewing your ignorance.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is in college now and found that the block scheduling prepared them well for the long twice a week classes. Their friends who never had block have more of an adjustment. The 50 minute 3x a week classes actually felt like breeze in college.

+1. My kids loved block scheduling too. It prepared them well for college and also helped them figure out how to manage their time regarding homework and assignments.

But it’s nothing like college. That’s a fake equivalency. College classes are not as long, you can get up and go the bathroom easily or go get a breath of fresh air, you don’t have 4 classes a day.

Who gets up to go to the bathroom or for fresh air in college outside of an actual break? Is that some new zoomer thing because most of the profs I had would've been a bit peeved with the frequent interruptions.

Oh I went to an Ivy, and we had a lot of autonomy and they treated us like adults. Was it really different at other schools?

+1 this was my experience too, not sure who this person is or where they went to college.

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Anonymous wrote:There was another thread talking about how outcomes at HB are better, more NMSFs at HB, etc. Could it be that HB has regular length class periods instead of long blocks? APS should look at this. Most kids can't pay attention for 90 minutes of math, so much wasted time in blocks.

The parent population at HB is different than the other schools. They have 100% parental GAF.

Compare behavioral issues and absenteeism between the schools. HB’s success has nothing to do with length of classes.

But how do you know this? You don't. This is just your opinion, which is uninformed. The length of classes might have something to do with it. It's worth looking it, not just dismissing outright.

I am no fan of block schedules but the differences in outcomes between HB and the other schools do not prove that block schedules are worse. They have a very different population, don't have to deal with overcrowding or students starting half way through high school after moving from another country (and not speaking the language).

It's something to look at. We won't know if they prove something or not without even looking at it. APS has a school without block scheduling and schools with it. So they have the data and they should look at it. Also, it is false that HB does not have students who moved from another county and don't know the language. Clearly you don't know what you're talking about.

PP said they don’t have anyone starting halfway through HS after moving from another country and not knowing the language. Which is true.

You keep spewing untruths.
HB has a lot of English learners.

HB really doesn’t have anyone starting mid year or mid -HS career. The waitlist doesn’t really move, and won’t have ANYONE who just moved from another country, because they would be at bottom of waitlist.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid is in college now and found that the block scheduling prepared them well for the long twice a week classes. Their friends who never had block have more of an adjustment. The 50 minute 3x a week classes actually felt like breeze in college.

+1. My kids loved block scheduling too. It prepared them well for college and also helped them figure out how to manage their time regarding homework and assignments.

But it’s nothing like college. That’s a fake equivalency. College classes are not as long, you can get up and go the bathroom easily or go get a breath of fresh air, you don’t have 4 classes a day.

Who gets up to go to the bathroom or for fresh air in college outside of an actual break? Is that some new zoomer thing because most of the profs I had would've been a bit peeved with the frequent interruptions.

Oh I went to an Ivy, and we had a lot of autonomy and they treated us like adults. Was it really different at other schools?

Literally the antithesis of adult if you don't know the difference between can and should. It's literally only 50-80 mins of sitting. Are you really that pathetic?

Gosh, you can't have a conversation without hurling insults. What is wrong with you?

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Anonymous wrote:There are many kids at HB who come not knowing English at all. The big difference in my experience (have 1 at HB, 1 at a countywide) is that the teachers care more. A lot of teachers at countywide don’t care or are overworked and checked out.

Sure, but they don’t enter HB in February of 10th/11th/12th grade. What part of that don’t you understand?

Yes they do! What part of this don't YOU understand?

They do not. In the event a spot opens up it goes to someone on the waitlist

You just don't know what you don't know. Keep spewing your ignorance.

So you are suggesting a family moves to the US and into APS, and they transfer to HBW by bypassing the hundreds long waitlist?? So there are HBW back doors, which has been hinted at before?

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Anonymous wrote:There are many kids at HB who come not knowing English at all. The big difference in my experience (have 1 at HB, 1 at a countywide) is that the teachers care more. A lot of teachers at countywide don’t care or are overworked and checked out.

Sure, but they don’t enter HB in February of 10th/11th/12th grade. What part of that don’t you understand?

Yes they do! What part of this don't YOU understand?

They do not. In the event a spot opens up it goes to someone on the waitlist

You just don't know what you don't know. Keep spewing your ignorance.

So you are suggesting a family moves to the US and into APS, and they transfer to HBW by bypassing the hundreds long waitlist?? So there are HBW back doors, which has been hinted at before?

Not a backdoor at all, there is a program for English learners. Unless you consider that a backdoor, I don't.

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Anonymous wrote:There are many kids at HB who come not knowing English at all. The big difference in my experience (have 1 at HB, 1 at a countywide) is that the teachers care more. A lot of teachers at countywide don’t care or are overworked and checked out.

Sure, but they don’t enter HB in February of 10th/11th/12th grade. What part of that don’t you understand?

Yes they do! What part of this don't YOU understand?

They do not. In the event a spot opens up it goes to someone on the waitlist

You just don't know what you don't know. Keep spewing your ignorance.

So you are suggesting a family moves to the US and into APS, and they transfer to HBW by bypassing the hundreds long waitlist?? So there are HBW back doors, which has been hinted at before?

there is a program for English learners but if a new refugee family moves here in March, those kids are not going to show up at the doorstep of HB in March and get a seat.

Not a backdoor at all, there is a program for English learners. Unless you consider that a backdoor, I don't.

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Anonymous wrote:There are many kids at HB who come not knowing English at all. The big difference in my experience (have 1 at HB, 1 at a countywide) is that the teachers care more. A lot of teachers at countywide don’t care or are overworked and checked out.

Sure, but they don’t enter HB in February of 10th/11th/12th grade. What part of that don’t you understand?

Yes they do! What part of this don't YOU understand?

They do not. In the event a spot opens up it goes to someone on the waitlist

You just don't know what you don't know. Keep spewing your ignorance.

So you are suggesting a family moves to the US and into APS, and they transfer to HBW by bypassing the hundreds long waitlist?? So there are HBW back doors, which has been hinted at before?

there is a program for English learners but if a new refugee family moves here in March, those kids are not going to show up at the doorstep of HB in March and get a seat.

Not a backdoor at all, there is a program for English learners. Unless you consider that a backdoor, I don't.

Oh so a moment ago you didn't even know this program exists and now you're an expert on what they don't do? Give me a break! Go have a seat and let the adults who have a clue talk.

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I’m a teacher. Learning to teach blocks was hard. Takes a lot of creativity to keep them engaged and keep it moving, and it’s important to do so- 90 minutes is long. As a parent, there are advantages and disadvantages to both. Would love math and language every day. Also like that my kid can focus on homework and prep for 3-4 classes a day instead of 7. I think I could go back, but I do wish we’d pick a lane.

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Anonymous wrote:There are many kids at HB who come not knowing English at all. The big difference in my experience (have 1 at HB, 1 at a countywide) is that the teachers care more. A lot of teachers at countywide don’t care or are overworked and checked out.

Sure, but they don’t enter HB in February of 10th/11th/12th grade. What part of that don’t you understand?

Yes they do! What part of this don't YOU understand?

They do not. In the event a spot opens up it goes to someone on the waitlist

You just don't know what you don't know. Keep spewing your ignorance.

So you are suggesting a family moves to the US and into APS, and they transfer to HBW by bypassing the hundreds long waitlist?? So there are HBW back doors, which has been hinted at before?

there is a program for English learners but if a new refugee family moves here in March, those kids are not going to show up at the doorstep of HB in March and get a seat.

Not a backdoor at all, there is a program for English learners. Unless you consider that a backdoor, I don't.

Oh so a moment ago you didn't even know this program exists and now you're an expert on what they don't do? Give me a break! Go have a seat and let the adults who have a clue talk.

That is a different poster. So the scenario you describe is someone leaves HBW who is part of this programs and that same month, a new family immigrates and takes their spot and there is no waitlist for English language learners? Can you link to this program? I actually have trouble with my English too all of a sudden.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher. Learning to teach blocks was hard. Takes a lot of creativity to keep them engaged and keep it moving, and it’s important to do so- 90 minutes is long. As a parent, there are advantages and disadvantages to both. Would love math and language every day. Also like that my kid can focus on homework and prep for 3-4 classes a day instead of 7. I think I could go back, but I do wish we’d pick a lane.

You supposed to give them time to do class work so there is no homework.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher. Learning to teach blocks was hard. Takes a lot of creativity to keep them engaged and keep it moving, and it’s important to do so- 90 minutes is long. As a parent, there are advantages and disadvantages to both. Would love math and language every day. Also like that my kid can focus on homework and prep for 3-4 classes a day instead of 7. I think I could go back, but I do wish we’d pick a lane.

You supposed to give them time to do class work so there is no homework.

In my experience this seems to result in kids doing a lot more self teaching. I had daily 45 minute classes and the teachers would instruct for pretty much all of every class. We then did practice at home as homework. With block scheduling, it seems that teachers only offer instruction for the same 45 minutes or so every class, even with a 90 minute block, because that's as long as kids can focus. So then kids use the second half of the block to do homework. But since classes are only every other day, kids then end up learning missed content from YouTube or other videos and websites. It seems like a really flawed model. My kid has come home so many times with math that she says the teacher never showed them how to do. That never happened when I was a kid. The homework matched the lesson.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher. Learning to teach blocks was hard. Takes a lot of creativity to keep them engaged and keep it moving, and it’s important to do so- 90 minutes is long. As a parent, there are advantages and disadvantages to both. Would love math and language every day. Also like that my kid can focus on homework and prep for 3-4 classes a day instead of 7. I think I could go back, but I do wish we’d pick a lane.

You supposed to give them time to do class work so there is no homework.

In my experience this seems to result in kids doing a lot more self teaching. I had daily 45 minute classes and the teachers would instruct for pretty much all of every class. We then did practice at home as homework. With block scheduling, it seems that teachers only offer instruction for the same 45 minutes or so every class, even with a 90 minute block, because that's as long as kids can focus. So then kids use the second half of the block to do homework. But since classes are only every other day, kids then end up learning missed content from YouTube or other videos and websites. It seems like a really flawed model. My kid has come home so many times with math that she says the teacher never showed them how to do. That never happened when I was a kid. The homework matched the lesson.

This starts in kindergarten all the way to 12th grade. If you're not sped, you get a fraction of time with the teacher, which means it's up to the student to be mature enough to study by themselves. A lot of good students end up becoming slackers through no fault of their own.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a teacher. Learning to teach blocks was hard. Takes a lot of creativity to keep them engaged and keep it moving, and it’s important to do so- 90 minutes is long. As a parent, there are advantages and disadvantages to both. Would love math and language every day. Also like that my kid can focus on homework and prep for 3-4 classes a day instead of 7. I think I could go back, but I do wish we’d pick a lane.

You supposed to give them time to do class work so there is no homework.

In my experience this seems to result in kids doing a lot more self teaching. I had daily 45 minute classes and the teachers would instruct for pretty much all of every class. We then did practice at home as homework. With block scheduling, it seems that teachers only offer instruction for the same 45 minutes or so every class, even with a 90 minute block, because that's as long as kids can focus. So then kids use the second half of the block to do homework. But since classes are only every other day, kids then end up learning missed content from YouTube or other videos and websites. It seems like a really flawed model. My kid has come home so many times with math that she says the teacher never showed them how to do. That never happened when I was a kid. The homework matched the lesson.

Word to the wise, poke around a bit more. When my kid says things like this to me, I say wow the teacher never taught you the material, I am going to email them and ask what is going on. (Because if this is true, you in fact should say something and advocate for your child.) Then my kid backpedals. A lot of the time, the real story is your kid is screwing around in class and not paying attention. Your kid zoned out. Or your kid didn't get it and then what they need to do is advocate for themselves and follow up with the teacher or yes, follow up at home on their own.

Do you really think teachers are in the habit of handing out homework that they never showed the kids how to do? That would be gross incompetence. If that's what is going on, do something about it.

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Anonymous wrote:There are many kids at HB who come not knowing English at all. The big difference in my experience (have 1 at HB, 1 at a countywide) is that the teachers care more. A lot of teachers at countywide don’t care or are overworked and checked out.

Sure, but they don’t enter HB in February of 10th/11th/12th grade. What part of that don’t you understand?

Yes they do! What part of this don't YOU understand?

They do not. In the event a spot opens up it goes to someone on the waitlist

You just don't know what you don't know. Keep spewing your ignorance.

So you are suggesting a family moves to the US and into APS, and they transfer to HBW by bypassing the hundreds long waitlist?? So there are HBW back doors, which has been hinted at before?

there is a program for English learners but if a new refugee family moves here in March, those kids are not going to show up at the doorstep of HB in March and get a seat.

Not a backdoor at all, there is a program for English learners. Unless you consider that a backdoor, I don't.

Oh so a moment ago you didn't even know this program exists and now you're an expert on what they don't do? Give me a break! Go have a seat and let the adults who have a clue talk.

That is a different poster. So the scenario you describe is someone leaves HBW who is part of this programs and that same month, a new family immigrates and takes their spot and there is no waitlist for English language learners? Can you link to this program? I actually have trouble with my English too all of a sudden.

NP and this is also fascinating to me. Please provide more info. I did a search of APS website and this is mentioned nowhere.