Why don’t schools have stronger policies about redshirting?

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Anonymous wrote:Same we know everyone’s but we socialize with most of the families.

Uh, huh. Right. There's literally 900 kids at Lafayette. There's 700 kids at Murch. These schools are big. You don't know the ages of everyone. And the desire to explain every little thing by whether someone's birthday is four months before someone else's is just strange.

People won't know for all 700 kids. But they will know for the 100 kids in their child's grade.

They for sure can’t know that unless they are being inappropriate.

I had kids invited to literally every birthday party in elementary, we socialized widely, and I could not have known the birthdays of 100 of them the way anti-redshirters have them memorized. You can only do that if you are inappropriately memorizing and studying kids.

I think that’s a privilege of not having to worry about it because you have an older kid and things come easier- school, making teams, etc

PP here. No, you are wrong. My kids are either mid-pack or young for grade.

But is your area one that it has any impact? Mine is.

I actually like the red shirted kids better for social for my kid. It’s made him more mature but we have basketball cuts and only 25% of the kids make it, and he’s the youngest one and 15 months younger than some of the kids so situations like that can be annoying, especially when he’s on the bubble/line for sports. Very good for his age but hard to compete with kids who are a year older and very good for their age.

There will always be someone smarter, richer, better, faster, etc. Prepare your kid for the road.

Yah, we do. So far they have always made the cut but they have to put in more effort and practice than other kids due to the age gap. I know it will benefit him in the long run though.

And what? It’s a cake walk for everyone else? What faulty logic.

12 month gap for sports= cake walk typically

Which sport can you show up and just be the oldest? What age?

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Anonymous wrote:Same we know everyone’s but we socialize with most of the families.

Uh, huh. Right. There's literally 900 kids at Lafayette. There's 700 kids at Murch. These schools are big. You don't know the ages of everyone. And the desire to explain every little thing by whether someone's birthday is four months before someone else's is just strange.

People won't know for all 700 kids. But they will know for the 100 kids in their child's grade.

They for sure can’t know that unless they are being inappropriate.

I had kids invited to literally every birthday party in elementary, we socialized widely, and I could not have known the birthdays of 100 of them the way anti-redshirters have them memorized. You can only do that if you are inappropriately memorizing and studying kids.

I think that’s a privilege of not having to worry about it because you have an older kid and things come easier- school, making teams, etc

PP here. No, you are wrong. My kids are either mid-pack or young for grade.

But is your area one that it has any impact? Mine is.

I actually like the red shirted kids better for social for my kid. It’s made him more mature but we have basketball cuts and only 25% of the kids make it, and he’s the youngest one and 15 months younger than some of the kids so situations like that can be annoying, especially when he’s on the bubble/line for sports. Very good for his age but hard to compete with kids who are a year older and very good for their age.

There will always be someone smarter, richer, better, faster, etc. Prepare your kid for the road.

Yah, we do. So far they have always made the cut but they have to put in more effort and practice than other kids due to the age gap. I know it will benefit him in the long run though.

And what? It’s a cake walk for everyone else? What faulty logic.

12 month gap for sports= cake walk typically

Ok but why should a school, whose purpose is to educate, care about this? Milo reading better by being six when he starts kindergarten is relevant to their educational goals in a way that Milo being better than your son at baseball isn’t.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not tracking, it’s just a know fact like a kid’s name, their siblings name, what street they live. We socialize, carpool, hang out and know the families. I think you’re isolated.

DP but I think you’re way overestimating how much normal parents keep track of this. My daughter’s classmate this year was redshirted— I found out casually chatting to her mom at a party months after school ended. I think you care a lot more than other parents and suggest PP might be right about untreated anxiety. [/]

Of course people don’t care when it has no impact on them. The ones whose kids are impacted by it will care more. Pretty normal. You’re not in a situation like this.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not tracking, it’s just a know fact like a kid’s name, their siblings name, what street they live. We socialize, carpool, hang out and know the families. I think you’re isolated.

Honey, we all know you keep creepy spreadsheets of kids and sports rosters. Your hard drive is probably appalling. What you do is not normal, despite your desperate attempts to justify it.

I would question why you’re so defensive about it? Maybe you feel silly watching your kid compete knowing the advantage.

None of my kids were redshirted. I am just calling out obviously creepy behavior on behalf of all the normal parents.

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Anonymous wrote:Same we know everyone’s but we socialize with most of the families.

Uh, huh. Right. There's literally 900 kids at Lafayette. There's 700 kids at Murch. These schools are big. You don't know the ages of everyone. And the desire to explain every little thing by whether someone's birthday is four months before someone else's is just strange.

People won't know for all 700 kids. But they will know for the 100 kids in their child's grade.

They for sure can’t know that unless they are being inappropriate.

I had kids invited to literally every birthday party in elementary, we socialized widely, and I could not have known the birthdays of 100 of them the way anti-redshirters have them memorized. You can only do that if you are inappropriately memorizing and studying kids.

I think that’s a privilege of not having to worry about it because you have an older kid and things come easier- school, making teams, etc

PP here. No, you are wrong. My kids are either mid-pack or young for grade.

But is your area one that it has any impact? Mine is.

I actually like the red shirted kids better for social for my kid. It’s made him more mature but we have basketball cuts and only 25% of the kids make it, and he’s the youngest one and 15 months younger than some of the kids so situations like that can be annoying, especially when he’s on the bubble/line for sports. Very good for his age but hard to compete with kids who are a year older and very good for their age.

There will always be someone smarter, richer, better, faster, etc. Prepare your kid for the road.

Yah, we do. So far they have always made the cut but they have to put in more effort and practice than other kids due to the age gap. I know it will benefit him in the long run though.

And what? It’s a cake walk for everyone else? What faulty logic.

12 month gap for sports= cake walk typically

Which sport can you show up and just be the oldest? What age?

Any sport in elementary school!

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not tracking, it’s just a know fact like a kid’s name, their siblings name, what street they live. We socialize, carpool, hang out and know the families. I think you’re isolated.

DP but I think you’re way overestimating how much normal parents keep track of this. My daughter’s classmate this year was redshirted— I found out casually chatting to her mom at a party months after school ended. I think you care a lot more than other parents and suggest PP might be right about untreated anxiety.

+1

That PP has serious, serious issues.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not tracking, it’s just a know fact like a kid’s name, their siblings name, what street they live. We socialize, carpool, hang out and know the families. I think you’re isolated.

Honey, we all know you keep creepy spreadsheets of kids and sports rosters. Your hard drive is probably appalling. What you do is not normal, despite your desperate attempts to justify it.

I would question why you’re so defensive about it? Maybe you feel silly watching your kid compete knowing the advantage.

None of my kids were redshirted. I am just calling out obviously creepy behavior on behalf of all the normal parents.

Or better yet why don’t you put some effort and energy into making friends and socializing with actual parents in your community instead of acting like a know it all on an internet board. Live an actual life in the real world. This doesn’t count.

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Anonymous wrote:Same we know everyone’s but we socialize with most of the families.

Uh, huh. Right. There's literally 900 kids at Lafayette. There's 700 kids at Murch. These schools are big. You don't know the ages of everyone. And the desire to explain every little thing by whether someone's birthday is four months before someone else's is just strange.

People won't know for all 700 kids. But they will know for the 100 kids in their child's grade.

They for sure can’t know that unless they are being inappropriate.

I had kids invited to literally every birthday party in elementary, we socialized widely, and I could not have known the birthdays of 100 of them the way anti-redshirters have them memorized. You can only do that if you are inappropriately memorizing and studying kids.

I think that’s a privilege of not having to worry about it because you have an older kid and things come easier- school, making teams, etc

PP here. No, you are wrong. My kids are either mid-pack or young for grade.

But is your area one that it has any impact? Mine is.

I actually like the red shirted kids better for social for my kid. It’s made him more mature but we have basketball cuts and only 25% of the kids make it, and he’s the youngest one and 15 months younger than some of the kids so situations like that can be annoying, especially when he’s on the bubble/line for sports. Very good for his age but hard to compete with kids who are a year older and very good for their age.

There will always be someone smarter, richer, better, faster, etc. Prepare your kid for the road.

Yah, we do. So far they have always made the cut but they have to put in more effort and practice than other kids due to the age gap. I know it will benefit him in the long run though.

And what? It’s a cake walk for everyone else? What faulty logic.

12 month gap for sports= cake walk typically

Which sport can you show up and just be the oldest? What age?

Any sport in elementary school!

Not where i live. Baseball used a birth certificate. Gymnastics is by age and so is swim. Why should schools control this so your kid has a better shot at sports?

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Anonymous wrote:Same we know everyone’s but we socialize with most of the families.

Uh, huh. Right. There's literally 900 kids at Lafayette. There's 700 kids at Murch. These schools are big. You don't know the ages of everyone. And the desire to explain every little thing by whether someone's birthday is four months before someone else's is just strange.

People won't know for all 700 kids. But they will know for the 100 kids in their child's grade.

They for sure can’t know that unless they are being inappropriate.

I had kids invited to literally every birthday party in elementary, we socialized widely, and I could not have known the birthdays of 100 of them the way anti-redshirters have them memorized. You can only do that if you are inappropriately memorizing and studying kids.

I think that’s a privilege of not having to worry about it because you have an older kid and things come easier- school, making teams, etc

PP here. No, you are wrong. My kids are either mid-pack or young for grade.

But is your area one that it has any impact? Mine is.

I actually like the red shirted kids better for social for my kid. It’s made him more mature but we have basketball cuts and only 25% of the kids make it, and he’s the youngest one and 15 months younger than some of the kids so situations like that can be annoying, especially when he’s on the bubble/line for sports. Very good for his age but hard to compete with kids who are a year older and very good for their age.

There will always be someone smarter, richer, better, faster, etc. Prepare your kid for the road.

Yah, we do. So far they have always made the cut but they have to put in more effort and practice than other kids due to the age gap. I know it will benefit him in the long run though.

And what? It’s a cake walk for everyone else? What faulty logic.

12 month gap for sports= cake walk typically

Ok but why should a school, whose purpose is to educate, care about this? Milo reading better by being six when he starts kindergarten is relevant to their educational goals in a way that Milo being better than your son at baseball isn’t.

Holding back because your kid is average is dumb. Someone has to be average. You get one year where you’re ahead and they you likely drop back to average. It’s pointless

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not tracking, it’s just a know fact like a kid’s name, their siblings name, what street they live. We socialize, carpool, hang out and know the families. I think you’re isolated.

DP but I think you’re way overestimating how much normal parents keep track of this. My daughter’s classmate this year was redshirted— I found out casually chatting to her mom at a party months after school ended. I think you care a lot more than other parents and suggest PP might be right about untreated anxiety. [/]

Of course people don’t care when it has no impact on them. The ones whose kids are impacted by it will care more. Pretty normal. You’re not in a situation like this.

I mean…in theory I was impacted? This girl probably did better on tests than my daughter did. But then again someone younger than my kid might also have done better. Or maybe my kid a secret genius and did the best in the class on everything and I’m just a super inattentive parent? I really don’t think the impact of a few older kids is really significant on anyone…

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Anonymous wrote:Same we know everyone’s but we socialize with most of the families.

Uh, huh. Right. There's literally 900 kids at Lafayette. There's 700 kids at Murch. These schools are big. You don't know the ages of everyone. And the desire to explain every little thing by whether someone's birthday is four months before someone else's is just strange.

People won't know for all 700 kids. But they will know for the 100 kids in their child's grade.

They for sure can’t know that unless they are being inappropriate.

I had kids invited to literally every birthday party in elementary, we socialized widely, and I could not have known the birthdays of 100 of them the way anti-redshirters have them memorized. You can only do that if you are inappropriately memorizing and studying kids.

I think that’s a privilege of not having to worry about it because you have an older kid and things come easier- school, making teams, etc

PP here. No, you are wrong. My kids are either mid-pack or young for grade.

But is your area one that it has any impact? Mine is.

I actually like the red shirted kids better for social for my kid. It’s made him more mature but we have basketball cuts and only 25% of the kids make it, and he’s the youngest one and 15 months younger than some of the kids so situations like that can be annoying, especially when he’s on the bubble/line for sports. Very good for his age but hard to compete with kids who are a year older and very good for their age.

There will always be someone smarter, richer, better, faster, etc. Prepare your kid for the road.

Yah, we do. So far they have always made the cut but they have to put in more effort and practice than other kids due to the age gap. I know it will benefit him in the long run though.

And what? It’s a cake walk for everyone else? What faulty logic.

12 month gap for sports= cake walk typically

Which sport can you show up and just be the oldest? What age?

Any sport in elementary school!

Not where i live. Baseball used a birth certificate. Gymnastics is by age and so is swim. Why should schools control this so your kid has a better shot at sports?

My child is fine. It’s a few years. It is annoying to watch though. Most of the oldest kids start dropping out when they aren’t the stars in 3/4 because they aren’t used to not being at the top. I’ve seen this play out with my daughter in competitive sports. (volleyball)

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Anonymous wrote:Same we know everyone’s but we socialize with most of the families.

Uh, huh. Right. There's literally 900 kids at Lafayette. There's 700 kids at Murch. These schools are big. You don't know the ages of everyone. And the desire to explain every little thing by whether someone's birthday is four months before someone else's is just strange.

People won't know for all 700 kids. But they will know for the 100 kids in their child's grade.

They for sure can’t know that unless they are being inappropriate.

I had kids invited to literally every birthday party in elementary, we socialized widely, and I could not have known the birthdays of 100 of them the way anti-redshirters have them memorized. You can only do that if you are inappropriately memorizing and studying kids.

I think that’s a privilege of not having to worry about it because you have an older kid and things come easier- school, making teams, etc

PP here. No, you are wrong. My kids are either mid-pack or young for grade.

But is your area one that it has any impact? Mine is.

I actually like the red shirted kids better for social for my kid. It’s made him more mature but we have basketball cuts and only 25% of the kids make it, and he’s the youngest one and 15 months younger than some of the kids so situations like that can be annoying, especially when he’s on the bubble/line for sports. Very good for his age but hard to compete with kids who are a year older and very good for their age.

There will always be someone smarter, richer, better, faster, etc. Prepare your kid for the road.

Yah, we do. So far they have always made the cut but they have to put in more effort and practice than other kids due to the age gap. I know it will benefit him in the long run though.

And what? It’s a cake walk for everyone else? What faulty logic.

12 month gap for sports= cake walk typically

Ok but why should a school, whose purpose is to educate, care about this? Milo reading better by being six when he starts kindergarten is relevant to their educational goals in a way that Milo being better than your son at baseball isn’t.

Holding back because your kid is average is dumb. Someone has to be average. You get one year where you’re ahead and they you likely drop back to average. It’s pointless

Ok, but that still doesn’t answer the question of why a school should police it?If it’s so pointless all these parents will be here wringing their hands in a few years anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:Same we know everyone’s but we socialize with most of the families.

Uh, huh. Right. There's literally 900 kids at Lafayette. There's 700 kids at Murch. These schools are big. You don't know the ages of everyone. And the desire to explain every little thing by whether someone's birthday is four months before someone else's is just strange.

People won't know for all 700 kids. But they will know for the 100 kids in their child's grade.

They for sure can’t know that unless they are being inappropriate.

I had kids invited to literally every birthday party in elementary, we socialized widely, and I could not have known the birthdays of 100 of them the way anti-redshirters have them memorized. You can only do that if you are inappropriately memorizing and studying kids.

I think that’s a privilege of not having to worry about it because you have an older kid and things come easier- school, making teams, etc

PP here. No, you are wrong. My kids are either mid-pack or young for grade.

But is your area one that it has any impact? Mine is.

I actually like the red shirted kids better for social for my kid. It’s made him more mature but we have basketball cuts and only 25% of the kids make it, and he’s the youngest one and 15 months younger than some of the kids so situations like that can be annoying, especially when he’s on the bubble/line for sports. Very good for his age but hard to compete with kids who are a year older and very good for their age.

There will always be someone smarter, richer, better, faster, etc. Prepare your kid for the road.

Yah, we do. So far they have always made the cut but they have to put in more effort and practice than other kids due to the age gap. I know it will benefit him in the long run though.

And what? It’s a cake walk for everyone else? What faulty logic.

12 month gap for sports= cake walk typically

Which sport can you show up and just be the oldest? What age?

Any sport in elementary school!

Not where i live. Baseball used a birth certificate. Gymnastics is by age and so is swim. Why should schools control this so your kid has a better shot at sports?

My child is fine. It’s a few years. It is annoying to watch though. Most of the oldest kids start dropping out when they aren’t the stars in 3/4 because they aren’t used to not being at the top. I’ve seen this play out with my daughter in competitive sports. (volleyball)

So why do you care? You do you.

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Anonymous wrote:Same we know everyone’s but we socialize with most of the families.

Uh, huh. Right. There's literally 900 kids at Lafayette. There's 700 kids at Murch. These schools are big. You don't know the ages of everyone. And the desire to explain every little thing by whether someone's birthday is four months before someone else's is just strange.

People won't know for all 700 kids. But they will know for the 100 kids in their child's grade.

They for sure can’t know that unless they are being inappropriate.

I had kids invited to literally every birthday party in elementary, we socialized widely, and I could not have known the birthdays of 100 of them the way anti-redshirters have them memorized. You can only do that if you are inappropriately memorizing and studying kids.

I think that’s a privilege of not having to worry about it because you have an older kid and things come easier- school, making teams, etc

PP here. No, you are wrong. My kids are either mid-pack or young for grade.

But is your area one that it has any impact? Mine is.

I actually like the red shirted kids better for social for my kid. It’s made him more mature but we have basketball cuts and only 25% of the kids make it, and he’s the youngest one and 15 months younger than some of the kids so situations like that can be annoying, especially when he’s on the bubble/line for sports. Very good for his age but hard to compete with kids who are a year older and very good for their age.

There will always be someone smarter, richer, better, faster, etc. Prepare your kid for the road.

Yah, we do. So far they have always made the cut but they have to put in more effort and practice than other kids due to the age gap. I know it will benefit him in the long run though.

And what? It’s a cake walk for everyone else? What faulty logic.

12 month gap for sports= cake walk typically

Ok but why should a school, whose purpose is to educate, care about this? Milo reading better by being six when he starts kindergarten is relevant to their educational goals in a way that Milo being better than your son at baseball isn’t.

Holding back because your kid is average is dumb. Someone has to be average. You get one year where you’re ahead and they you likely drop back to average. It’s pointless

Ok, but that still doesn’t answer the question of why a school should police it?If it’s so pointless all these parents will be here wringing their hands in a few years anyway.

Because there should be a line for everything to
create some equity and order. February is seven months before the start date.

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For sports it’s often a safety thing. My 7 year old is 110 lbs and 5’ tall. I would feel uncomfortable with him playing sports with much younger kids.