Tufts student detained by ICE

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If we are curtailing political speech by foreigners, how about not having a Nazi salute at the inauguration?

The hypocrisy is astounding. This is the most egregious display of authoritarianism by Trump regime to date. And he is still actively working on sanctioning, dismantling the law firms who dare represent his enemies. That way there will be no one to stop him when he is clearly breaking the law.

Isn't it? each and every headline.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We coworker was born in Turkey. He said he is watching this country lose democracy the same as Turkey. So sad.

This! My DC’s close friend at college is Turkish and has noted the same thing. I am shattered by this and ashamed that foreigners come here to study in part because of our academic freedoms but are finding those freedoms are not what they once were. Students are protesting right now in Turkey against the authoritarian regime of Erdogan. What makes us different than Turkey when someone can be snatched off the street by masked individuals and spirited away to a prison with no due process? The similarities between Turkey and the US right now are particularly jarring.

[Anonymous]

This is the slipperiest of slopes. We are now the country where people are abducted off the streets. Don't kid yourself that it's "others." That's always how it starts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you havent seen the footage of how they took her its here. its giving Handmaids Tale.

CNN Surveillance Video From 3/25 posted 20hrs ago
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP82nF92S/

2m views 170k likes as of 3/28


Public Response: Crowds Chant “Stand Up, Fight Back” in MA
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP82nheDv/

Have you never seen someone taken into custody before? There isn't anything particularly unusual about this. It's not like they just rolled up, put a bag over her head, and threw her in the back of a van.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of students on it are US citizens. I know some of them. What are they going to do with the US citizens on the list? Arrest them? Or take their citizenship away and deport them to Panama?

Anti-semitism is a crime. Am I wrong about this?

Voicing opposition to Israel's policies and the ongoing genocide is not anti semitism. Calling it as such is simply there to silence peoples first amendment rights and dissent

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of students on it are US citizens. I know some of them. What are they going to do with the US citizens on the list? Arrest them? Or take their citizenship away and deport them to Panama?

Anti-semitism is a crime. Am I wrong about this?

Voicing opposition to Israel's policies and the ongoing genocide is not anti semitism. Calling it as such is simply there to silence peoples first amendment rights and dissent

It's also not a crime to hold or express undoubtedly antisemitic views, at least in America.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just can't imagine any poster on here getting a student visa to the UK or France (just for example) and then while there openly, loudly, and publicly complaining about their government.

Israel is our government? Yeah, you’re right, never mind. Israel and its powerful lobbies here in the US run this country. And if you speak out about it, you are immediately branded an “anti-Semite.” So convenient!

They weren't protesting just Israel. They were protesting US Government policy/support OF Israel.

And no I wouldn't expect France or the UK to enjoy my political commentary on how they run their own Foreign Policy.

These people are NOT US Citizens, no matter how much everyone tries to pretend that student visas and green cards are exactly the same thing. They aren't.

We know it’s not the same but it does not mean you can skip over due process. We are also telling you that it won’t stop at non-citizens.

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Anonymous wrote:The lesson here is that non-citizens express their politics at their own risk. They have no absolute rights to say whatever they want, and the government has the absolute right to revoke permission for them to be here. That conduct presently unacceptable to the government has been tolerated in the past has no bearing on whether it can, should, or will be tolerated in the future.

Turkish and Chinese students can go home and say whatever they want to about U.S. or their own country's foreign policies. Their home governments may or may not tolerate them doing so. I suspect they'd be much more circumspect at home than they have been here.

It's disgusting that you're trying to justify this. Everyone has absolute rights. That's what this country was founded on.

Non-citizens do not have absolute rights, simple legal reality.

They do have a right to due process and the same laws that apply to you and me have to be followed when dealing with immigrants. You don't just get to decide one day that you don't like they have protections under the 1st amendment and arrest everyone that you disagree with. what the hell is wrong with you???

These people—if not trolls-don’t know the very basics of civics and law. They are willing to trump on the constitution if it means they get to stick to certain people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you havent seen the footage of how they took her its here. its giving Handmaids Tale.

CNN Surveillance Video From 3/25 posted 20hrs ago
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP82nF92S/

2m views 170k likes as of 3/28


Public Response: Crowds Chant “Stand Up, Fight Back” in MA
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP82nheDv/

Have you never seen someone taken into custody before? There isn't anything particularly unusual about this. It's not like they just rolled up, put a bag over her head, and threw her in the back of a van.

Of course I’ve witnesses (virtually) someone being taken into custody. Do I take others into custody as a profession? Do you?

They were undercover unnecessarily. They wore masks covering distinguishing features and no identifying agency wear.

Are ICE raids conducted in this type of uniform in mass deportations? Where is the vest?

And why is she being taken into custody for writing a journalistic opinion piece?

Those are the questions I ponder.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of students on it are US citizens. I know some of them. What are they going to do with the US citizens on the list? Arrest them? Or take their citizenship away and deport them to Panama?

Anti-semitism is a crime. Am I wrong about this?

It’s only a crime if it leads someone to break specific laws. People can express antisemitic or Nazi or racist ideas—they just can’t act on them in a way that breaks a law.

You.cannot attend a.public institution paid for by taxpayer money and spout antisemetic, Nazi, or racist ideas. You may not be.a.criminal, but you can be.expelled or punished in some way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of students on it are US citizens. I know some of them. What are they going to do with the US citizens on the list? Arrest them? Or take their citizenship away and deport them to Panama?

Anti-semitism is a crime. Am I wrong about this?

Wow, where on earth are you from? I mean, it’s obviously not the U.S.

See, we have this ‘lil inconvenient 1st Amendment that thoroughly shits all over thought “crimes” or speech “crimes” like anti-semitism, Islamophobia, racism, etc. As it should.

[Anonymous]

At this point ANY student here on a student visa should immediately leave the country.

There is no rule of law here for them any longer. (or for any of us). There is no due process for them and no recourse.

We cannot keep them safe.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just can't imagine any poster on here getting a student visa to the UK or France (just for example) and then while there openly, loudly, and publicly complaining about their government.

My DC did while on a UK student visa.

When I was in college abroad my friends from the dorm were going to try to disrupt a fox hunt. It was a regular protest thing in the UK at the time. I didn't go for some reason but didn't hesitate thinking I would be in any more trouble than the UK kids if I did. It's inhumane and I'm an animal lover, why wouldn't I protest?

Because you are a guest of that country, and there by their grace. You are not entitled to be in their country.

Grow up

That's not how it works here

We remember
Not all of us are FOX News zombies

And not.all of.us are filled with feelings of self-importance and entitlement when we attend school or visit another country. How about being thankful for the opportunity and being focused on your studies?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At this point ANY student here on a student visa should immediately leave the country.

There is no rule of law here for them any longer. (or for any of us). There is no due process for them and no recourse.

We cannot keep them safe.

Sadly, if I was in their shoes or my child was, I would have to agree. These individuals are not even afforded an opportunity to leave voluntarily.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Lots of students on it are US citizens. I know some of them. What are they going to do with the US citizens on the list? Arrest them? Or take their citizenship away and deport them to Panama?

Anti-semitism is a crime. Am I wrong about this?

It’s only a crime if it leads someone to break specific laws. People can express antisemitic or Nazi or racist ideas—they just can’t act on them in a way that breaks a law.

You.cannot attend a.public institution paid for by taxpayer money and spout antisemetic, Nazi, or racist ideas. You may not be.a.criminal, but you can be.expelled or punished in some way.

That means anti-Palestinian too. Israeli students take note.