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As a lapsed Catholic now raising my own kids, I think about the reasons I left the church—hearing homilies about how girls should not aspire to anything other than motherhood, the concept that you could sin just by thinking about sex, and obviously the horrendous abuse scandals that affected people I knew personally—and I know it was the right thing to do. The one thing that gnaws at me is the emphasis on service. I did volunteer work of some kind on a weekly basis from age 10 through college graduation. I have found ways to teach my kids to give their time to others, but it’s not a part of their lives like it was when I was in Catholic school.
I was a high school debate champion and guys like JD Vance were a dime a dozen. “Intellectual” Catholics with little feel for the moral underpinnings of it all, and with unbridled ambition to use their intelligence and smooth talk to get to the top in law and conservative politics. More smart young people are liberal—being a brainy conservative is a savvy way to get ahead. |
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I don’t know JD Vance personally, but I read his book.
He grew up outside of an organized church. His father was a fundamentalist Christian. I can see why he settled on becoming Catholic once he was old enough to set his own path. It’s not a political choice. It’s personal. If it wasn’t, he wouldn’t have been Confirmed. |
I find it odd people think he converted to Catholicism for political reasons. I can't think of one thing a politician would gain by being a Catholic convert. |
OMG this is gobbleygook. His book has already been proven unfactual. He is not a Catholic or religious you fool. He knows approximately 27% of this country is Catholic it's about stupid Americans voting religion and not reality. |
I don't know what anyone would gain by converting to any religion. |
JFK was Catholic. When Vance runs for president in 2028, he can draw in the minds of Americans a picture that he is the next JFK. |
| There are a lot of Catholics in the Senate. I believe this year a few more Da than Rs, but it is pretty close. |
Not now that he killed the Pope he can’t. |
Imagine being so awful and yet so powerful that the Pope decides he needs to fit you in on his last full day on the planet, the day before Easter. |
And a Pope who knows he is dying. His doctors told him that they were sending him home to die, except that if he stayed in his room resting for months, he might make it. He knew he didn't want to do that. |
Are you kidding? Several current and former SCOTUS members are Catholics. His mentor, Peter Thiel, is Catholic. There are powerful conservative Catholics behind the political scenes like in The Family organization. It's always seemed like a political move to me. They are gaining political power as much or more than Evangelicals and it's a savvy move on his part. |
| Identifying as a conservative Catholic = less offputtingly Bible-thumpy than Evangelicals but still appealing to the ultra-religious, appealing to Latinos and white ethnics who are often swing voters. It’s a shrewd move. |
| Pope could not handle unctuous vibes coming of him and checked out. Sad! |
I hate the Pope had to meet with the scum that is JD/Usha while he was in his last days. I know the Pope chose his path, but I wish he hadn't had to interact with such hateful, evil filth before he died. |
Yep. |