Travel Soccer teams around NOVA let's discuss Part II

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Anonymous wrote:Completely transparent is a bit much. If you have the inside scoop, then perhaps you could make that case. The NCSL described to parents was not about all age groups and all teams which is what that link to new ncsl teams appears to show. And other pertinent info about that has yet to appear in these discussions.


This was about bryc from posting a bit earlier
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Anonymous wrote:My team plays in the older age groups and we are exploring joining either EDP or CCL in the fall. Can anyone here with experience in those leagues say which one of the two offers a higher level of competition across the board? What are other factors that would make you argue for one over the other? I'm truly curious and just want to see what others with experience in the respective leagues have to say about it. Thanks in advance for your feedback, it's very much appreciated.


Your "team" alone can't join CCL, the entire club has to join. I don't think CCL is an option for you. I have no experience with EDP, but the travel will be into MD/PA at a minimum.


Thanks, I didn't know this tidbit. Probably explains why we were waitlisted. We won't be wasting our time and efforts with CCL then. I appreciate your feedback.
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Anonymous wrote:Looks like Braddock Road is going ncsl this Spring for the younger age groups


What age groups? Boys or Girls or both? what happened to the 'pre-ECNL' teams?


I would think it's those "pre-ECNL" teams. Probably the feedback from the players and families wasn't the greatest not having games on a week to week.


Correct on age group. See link for full list of New NCSL teams for Spring 2018. http://www.ncsl-soccer.com/welcome-teams


Surprised by the number of PWSI Pride, RWFC, and VISTA teams, which are essentially parent volunteer led teams. Glad to see more parents going the independent route.


The competition at ODSL is just not that great which is why many of those are leaving. RWFC was just accepted as a new club, VISTA and PWSI have been in NCSL and could put any teams from their programs as they wish. Just like BRYC does for some of their parent led teams. As for RWFC I'm a bit surprised that they got accepted although they do have a ton of parent led teams. I'm surprised because NCSL requires "quality" fields and the fields RWFC was using as of 1 year ago were half dirt and not properly lined. Team was competitive though.


Yeah, the RWFC teams were too competitive for the run of the mill ODSL teams. My son was on a team there last Fall and their fields have improved considerably. It was mainly dirt with lines and patches of grass, I think they always were going to join NCSL because their internal league that is structured more as a rec program is pretty much eliminated after U13. So a lot of their teams that wanted to keep playing joined ODSL, and after playing mainly against themselves in the same division, will now get some serious competition in NCSL.

VISTA has always been in NCSL, but their teams are all organized independently, so without a coach willing to put together a team, they wouldn't be registering new teams. I interpreted this to mean more coaches are willing to put together teams and join the travel soccer scene as oppose to have their children and their children's teammates join the club travel soccer programs.

For PWSI, their select teams have joined NCSL in the past, but their "Pride" teams are coached by a volunteer and essentially play under the PWSI umbrella, other than wearing their uniform and practicing on Woodbridge fields, they are entirely trained, organized, and coordinated by the volunteer coach and any other volunteer parents.

While many parents are going the club route, I think it's good to see parent's willing to put in a little more effort and skip the handholding club model.
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Anonymous wrote:Maybe CCL2 is folding? anyone know


No the league appears to be growing and adding more clubs. It'll probably bring over more VPL clubs or other strong/large clubs not currently in either league.


CCL2 hasn't added any teams


Correct that they haven't yet added any this year but last year it added NVSC and SYC. SYC will likely go CCL and CCL2 this upcoming year. CCL just added VA Rush. Looks like growth of the overall league as previously mentioned. There could be a future announcement to a new club joining as it's still early. I don't have any insight, just that it could still happen.


The VA Rush press release said they were going to play in CCL, CCL2 and Pro23


Maybe I misread but thought participate in league for CCL, Pro23 and CCL2 events such as Festivals/Showcases.


You might be right, I didn't know CCL2 had events other than games. Looking at the schedule Beach does not play CCL2, so would make sense Rush wont either. One thing I saw is they have Richmond Strikers listed as a club when searching the schedule. Why are they listed ? I didn't think they had any teams in any of the CCL leagues.
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Anonymous wrote:Completely transparent is a bit much. If you have the inside scoop, then perhaps you could make that case. The NCSL described to parents was not about all age groups and all teams which is what that link to new ncsl teams appears to show. And other pertinent info about that has yet to appear in these discussions.


Different poster here. On the girls side bryc said they were entering only the u12 girls, which is what that list shows.
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Anonymous wrote:Maybe CCL2 is folding? anyone know


No the league appears to be growing and adding more clubs. It'll probably bring over more VPL clubs or other strong/large clubs not currently in either league.


CCL2 hasn't added any teams


Correct that they haven't yet added any this year but last year it added NVSC and SYC. SYC will likely go CCL and CCL2 this upcoming year. CCL just added VA Rush. Looks like growth of the overall league as previously mentioned. There could be a future announcement to a new club joining as it's still early. I don't have any insight, just that it could still happen.


The VA Rush press release said they were going to play in CCL, CCL2 and Pro23


Maybe I misread but thought participate in league for CCL, Pro23 and CCL2 events such as Festivals/Showcases.


You might be right, I didn't know CCL2 had events other than games. Looking at the schedule Beach does not play CCL2, so would make sense Rush wont either. One thing I saw is they have Richmond Strikers listed as a club when searching the schedule. Why are they listed ? I didn't think they had any teams in any of the CCL leagues.


They are not part of CCL and CCL2 but they do participate in Pro23 along with some other non-CCL clubs like A3, VDA and more.
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Anonymous wrote:Completely transparent is a bit much. If you have the inside scoop, then perhaps you could make that case. The NCSL described to parents was not about all age groups and all teams which is what that link to new ncsl teams appears to show. And other pertinent info about that has yet to appear in these discussions.


Different poster here. On the girls side bryc said they were entering only the u12 girls, which is what that list shows.


the list shows BRYC at 9, 10 and 11 as well. Unless that is an error on the NCSL side.
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http://www.ncsl-soccer.com/welcome-teams

new boys teams in NCSL:

NB06121 BRYC Elite Academy U12
NB07103 BRYC Elite Academy U11 Elite
NB07104 BRYC Elite Academy U11 Blue
NB0888 BRYC Elite Academy U10 Elite
NB0889 BRYC Elite Academy U10 Blue
NB0951 BRYC Elite Academy U9 Elite
NB0952 BRYC Elite Academy U9 Blue

new girls teams in NCSL:

NG0585 BRYC Elite U12
NG06101 BRYC Elite Academy U12 Elite
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Anonymous wrote:http://www.ncsl-soccer.com/welcome-teams

new boys teams in NCSL:

NB06121 BRYC Elite Academy U12
NB07103 BRYC Elite Academy U11 Elite
NB07104 BRYC Elite Academy U11 Blue
NB0888 BRYC Elite Academy U10 Elite
NB0889 BRYC Elite Academy U10 Blue
NB0951 BRYC Elite Academy U9 Elite
NB0952 BRYC Elite Academy U9 Blue

new girls teams in NCSL:

NG0585 BRYC Elite U12
NG06101 BRYC Elite Academy U12 Elite


Got the below from the FAQs from BRYC's website when some parents were concerned about the kids not being put into a league at BRYC. Funny that they ended up at NCSL anyway after telling everyone league play is not important etc etc. Do parents have to pay more now that they are in NCSL?

9. Would the club reconsider their plans to not have the younger ages play in a league? There is a benefit from playing in structured real games on a regular basis with a referee so the kids can learn the rules and have fun practicing the skills they learned during the training sessions.

All age groups U9 – U12 will get official matches in events as this development model allows us to train the players to learn the game (rules) in an environment that is more conducive to player and team development.

11. Will the decision to not play in a league at the younger ages reduce club fees for those ages?

No; the league fee is a very small portion of the annual fee paid into the club (about 6%). The club is planning to include event fees and fees for ScrimmageFest league into annual fees paid into club.


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EDP has strong competition and is well run. Your games are all self-schedule to coordinate dates/times with teams in MD, PA, and some VA teams. Much better competition and flexibility than the other leagues in the area.
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Anonymous wrote:I just looked at the Boys ECNL schedule and didn't see BRYC in U13. They were there for U14+ though. I thought they were playing U13 too?

http://www.boysecnl.com/new-member-clubs/


For the 2017-2018 season, BRYC does not have a U13 boys ECNL team. The U13 are only in NCSL.

Unless they are able to recruit for next year, BRYC won’t have a U14 boys in ECNL for 2018-2019.

They lost most of their quality players as well as a coach, so they didn’t want to field an ECNL team for the age group this year.
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Anonymous wrote:^^that is why a lot of great players don't show at these cattle call travel tryouts with just scrimmaging where nobody will give up the ball or pass. They miss a helluva lot of talent.


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Anonymous wrote:^^that is why a lot of great players don't show at these cattle call travel tryouts with just scrimmaging where nobody will give up the ball or pass. They miss a helluva lot of talent.


AMEN


what was this first quoted comment in reference to? I mean i get the gist, but dont understand the specific context of the statement.

Is the discussion about training alongside the teams pre-tryouts or ID sessions or what?
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Anonymous wrote:EDP has strong competition and is well run. Your games are all self-schedule to coordinate dates/times with teams in MD, PA, and some VA teams. Much better competition and flexibility than the other leagues in the area.


Thanks a lot for your feedback. We have played a few EDP teams from MD at recent showcases and I gotta say I was quite impressed with the level of play and how competitive they are. I'm not too worried about logistics as our manager is great, but I wanted someone to attest to the level of competition. I've also heard that the referees are stellar compared to what we currently see in NCSL. Thanks again, your feedback was much appreciated.
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you have to make sure to attend the pre-pre-pre-pre-pre elite travel tryout regional ID session at U-3 to get to know the coaches early on in the process.
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