A lot of people found Vance more likeable after hearing him speaking, instead of cut of media selected pieces. He is very civil, educated, great family. What not to like? |
Vance's response about abortion and his "friend" who got an abortion because of an abusive s/o was a slap in the face to the friend, actually.
He wants to have more pro-family policies so women don't feel that they need to get an abortion. I'm sorry, but most "pro-family" policies by conservatives = women being subjugated and told to suck up an abusive relationship. I grew up in a religious, conservative home, and I saw this play out time and again. No matter what policies conservatives try to implement, there will always be abusive men, even the religious ones. This is especially insidious because they like to keep it behind closed doors, and religious nutjobs just tell the women to "pray" about it. Would a man who is being physically abused everyday want to be tied to the abusers in such a profound way? I don't think so. A$$holes, the lot of you. |
He's weird. His polish comes from going to an elite university as a DEI applicant. |
Let me get this math right: Harris is "less civil" than 2 years of Trump lies/insults + 2 years of Vance sweet-talking lies? ![]() ![]() |
Confusing Israel with Iran is my biggest concern. In the light what happened yesterday, how he can do it? Jewish votes were outraged yesterday. |
He couldn’t even admit his boss lost the last election. |
Was Joe the obvious winner in 2020 election? |
He's a lying misogynist? |
On the day when Iran was bombing Israel, right? |
If ABC declared him a winner... |
Agree that he’s not prepared for WH level. I wouldn’t mind a nice guy who maybe knows how to fix a car as my neighbor but I’m not voting for who may be my neighbor; I’m voting for the WH. |
Walz response with regard of the middle east policy was very weak. I was expecting him to nail it on such a historical day. 400 bombs was dropped on people of Israel on the date he debated, and he came across as very weak on middle east. |
Vance is slick and a good speaker obviously, but pretty much nothing he was saying yesterday matched up to either his previous statements or the Trump campaign platforms. This was a debate to set him up to run on his own in 4 years or take over for Trump after Trump’s term if he should win election again. |
Vance's actual policies include:
Nationwide ban in abortion No gun control No healthcare No no-fault divorce (women would have to stay married to abusers) Grandparents forced to provide free labor in childcare Fewer govt regulations for things like car seats No public schools Books banned nation wide |
Using word knucklehead was wrong. i can see all the memes now and before the election. This will stick with Walz for the rest of his political career. |