3 children dead in private Christian elementary school shooting in TN

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Anonymous wrote:Gov Lee has come forth with a strong proposal to supply funding to private schools for guards.

Guards make $90/hr. I guess we can tax the rich to get the money?

There is no guarantee that LEOs/guards who provide security to schools will engage with shooters.

Two LEOs on scene during the Parkland massacre did ZIP ZERO NADA to protect the students. Scot Peterson "refused to investigate the source of gunshots, retreated during the active shooting while victims were being shot and directed other law enforcement who arrived on scene to remain 500 feet away from the building." Sgt Brian Miller "hid in his car" while the shooting was going on. (He was fired for neglect of duty and later reinstated with back pay. He made $137,000 in 2018.) And we all know how cowardly the Uvalde LEOs who responded to the shooting were.

When the shooters are armed better than the LEOs, expect some LEOs to be too scared to engage.

Even then we have mass shootings in stores, malls, churches, workplaces, movie theaters. It's not possible to protect every possible location in this way

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gov Lee has come forth with a strong proposal to supply funding to private schools for guards.

Guards make $90/hr. I guess we can tax the rich to get the money?

There is no guarantee that LEOs/guards who provide security to schools will engage with shooters.

Two LEOs on scene during the Parkland massacre did ZIP ZERO NADA to protect the students. Scot Peterson "refused to investigate the source of gunshots, retreated during the active shooting while victims were being shot and directed other law enforcement who arrived on scene to remain 500 feet away from the building." Sgt Brian Miller "hid in his car" while the shooting was going on. (He was fired for neglect of duty and later reinstated with back pay. He made $137,000 in 2018.) And we all know how cowardly the Uvalde LEOs who responded to the shooting were.

When the shooters are armed better than the LEOs, expect some LEOs to be too scared to engage.

Even then we have mass shootings in stores, malls, churches, workplaces, movie theaters. It's not possible to protect every possible location in this way

Did you know there are MORE guns in Australia AFTER the gun buyback?

[Anonymous]

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I feel like some people will trot out any excuse to stop others from trying to lessen these deaths and even stop them from happening. The thing is, we didn't used to have mass shootings like this in schools or in many other places. What changed? I think we all know the answer.

If you want to know what changed, read https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/10/19/thresholds-of-violence

This article sums it up. It’s like a snowball rolling downhill. There have been so many school shootings now that they somehow get normalized in the heads of teens and young men. I remember reading this article 7-8 years ago thinking it’s just going to get worse. And it unfortunately has. Here is the conclusion from Gladwell’s article:

In the day of Eric Harris, we could try to console ourselves with the thought that there was nothing we could do, that no law or intervention or restrictions on guns could make a difference in the face of someone so evil. But the riot has now engulfed the boys who were once content to play with chemistry sets in the basement. The problem is not that there is an endless supply of deeply disturbed young men who are willing to contemplate horrific acts. It’s worse. It’s that young men no longer need to be deeply disturbed to contemplate horrific acts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How are we going to stop tornadoes? They have killed more people than mass shootings recently.

Maybe we should outlaw mobile homes.

If climate change is contributing to the frequency, intensity, and shifting the location of these storms, addressing climate change will help. Better meteorological tools and warning systems. Can storm shelters be dug next to mobil homes?

Why wouldn't we look for solutions?

And we have WARNINGS that tornadoes are coming, it's not a complete shock/surprise. On days when tornadoes are possible, you stay alert and have a plan for getting to your safe space/shelter.

Growing up in the midwest, I recall spending several summer nights sleeping on an airmattress in the basement while my parents stayed awake and monitored the weather. You learn to just look at outside and smell outside to know when it's possible tornado weather and go to the basement (or your tornado safe space).

Much different than random shootings from challenged people who should not have guns.

[Anonymous]

Any word on when the manifesto is going to be made public?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Any word on when the manifesto is going to be made public?

Other than satisfying everyone's general curiosity, what difference do you feel releasing it will make? In other words, what are you expecting to find in it and what do you think will happen when that information is made public? Just trying to understand...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Any word on when the manifesto is going to be made public?

Other than satisfying everyone's general curiosity, what difference do you feel releasing it will make? In other words, what are you expecting to find in it and what do you think will happen when that information is made public? Just trying to understand...

Motivation. If the manifesto indicates motivation, it can be window into what set this person off. It could be helpful in preventing future nutcases from acting on their desires.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any word on when the manifesto is going to be made public?

Other than satisfying everyone's general curiosity, what difference do you feel releasing it will make? In other words, what are you expecting to find in it and what do you think will happen when that information is made public? Just trying to understand...

Motivation. If the manifesto indicates motivation, it can be window into what set this person off. It could be helpful in preventing future nutcases from acting on their desires.

All mass shooters have grievances or reasons that justify their acts in their own minds. Here's a list of some of the manifestos left by mass killers in the US. Other than demonstrating that they were all mentally ill, what specific thing in their manifestos could have helped prevent any of these mass killings?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_manifestos_of_mass_killers


Let's pick a random mass shooter--Elliot Rodger, the "incel" mass shooter from Santa Barbara. He left a 137-page diary documenting a litany of complaints about how he was treated since childhood. Some of his motivation seemed to be related to not getting girls/sex: "Rodger specified that he planned to target the Alpha Phi sorority whose members he had deemed the 'hottest' at his college, 'the kind of girls I've always desired but was never able to have'." What is your solution for preventing his behavior? Provide him with access to girls?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Any word on when the manifesto is going to be made public?

Other than satisfying everyone's general curiosity, what difference do you feel releasing it will make? In other words, what are you expecting to find in it and what do you think will happen when that information is made public? Just trying to understand...

NP. Because the police said the attack was targeted and I have a feeling that's why it has not been released and the narrative has changed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any word on when the manifesto is going to be made public?

Other than satisfying everyone's general curiosity, what difference do you feel releasing it will make? In other words, what are you expecting to find in it and what do you think will happen when that information is made public? Just trying to understand...

NP. Because the police said the attack was targeted and I have a feeling that's why it has not been released and the narrative has changed.

Don't worry, the next mass shooting will be a completely different reason as per usual

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any word on when the manifesto is going to be made public?

Other than satisfying everyone's general curiosity, what difference do you feel releasing it will make? In other words, what are you expecting to find in it and what do you think will happen when that information is made public? Just trying to understand...

Motivation. If the manifesto indicates motivation, it can be window into what set this person off. It could be helpful in preventing future nutcases from acting on their desires.

What would be helpful is not allowing the nutcases to go easily and legally buy assault rifles and pistols for starters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gov Lee has come forth with a strong proposal to supply funding to private schools for guards.

Guards make $90/hr. I guess we can tax the rich to get the money?

There is no guarantee that LEOs/guards who provide security to schools will engage with shooters.

Two LEOs on scene during the Parkland massacre did ZIP ZERO NADA to protect the students. Scot Peterson "refused to investigate the source of gunshots, retreated during the active shooting while victims were being shot and directed other law enforcement who arrived on scene to remain 500 feet away from the building." Sgt Brian Miller "hid in his car" while the shooting was going on. (He was fired for neglect of duty and later reinstated with back pay. He made $137,000 in 2018.) And we all know how cowardly the Uvalde LEOs who responded to the shooting were.

When the shooters are armed better than the LEOs, expect some LEOs to be too scared to engage.

Even then we have mass shootings in stores, malls, churches, workplaces, movie theaters. It's not possible to protect every possible location in this way

Did you know there are MORE guns in Australia AFTER the gun buyback?

Yes. But their firearm ownership laws are stricter than ours and while they still have shootings, they aren't having the same issue as they did before their overhaul of gun laws. So what was your point?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any word on when the manifesto is going to be made public?

Other than satisfying everyone's general curiosity, what difference do you feel releasing it will make? In other words, what are you expecting to find in it and what do you think will happen when that information is made public? Just trying to understand...

Motivation. If the manifesto indicates motivation, it can be window into what set this person off. It could be helpful in preventing future nutcases from acting on their desires.

What would be helpful is not allowing the nutcases to go easily and legally buy assault rifles and pistols for starters.

+1

The manifesto isn’t going to clear anything up. It’s a crazy person’s rant; those don’t supply any answers, not really.

Start taking the guns away from, and preventing their purchase by, people with violent tendencies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Gov Lee has come forth with a strong proposal to supply funding to private schools for guards.

Guards make $90/hr. I guess we can tax the rich to get the money?

There is no guarantee that LEOs/guards who provide security to schools will engage with shooters.

Two LEOs on scene during the Parkland massacre did ZIP ZERO NADA to protect the students. Scot Peterson "refused to investigate the source of gunshots, retreated during the active shooting while victims were being shot and directed other law enforcement who arrived on scene to remain 500 feet away from the building." Sgt Brian Miller "hid in his car" while the shooting was going on. (He was fired for neglect of duty and later reinstated with back pay. He made $137,000 in 2018.) And we all know how cowardly the Uvalde LEOs who responded to the shooting were.

When the shooters are armed better than the LEOs, expect some LEOs to be too scared to engage.

Even then we have mass shootings in stores, malls, churches, workplaces, movie theaters. It's not possible to protect every possible location in this way

Did you know there are MORE guns in Australia AFTER the gun buyback?

Yes. But their firearm ownership laws are stricter than ours and while they still have shootings, they aren't having the same issue as they did before their overhaul of gun laws. So what was your point?

The quantity of guns does not equal more shootings. New Zealand discovered that criminals don’t give up their guns. Who woulda thunk it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any word on when the manifesto is going to be made public?

Other than satisfying everyone's general curiosity, what difference do you feel releasing it will make? In other words, what are you expecting to find in it and what do you think will happen when that information is made public? Just trying to understand...

Motivation. If the manifesto indicates motivation, it can be window into what set this person off. It could be helpful in preventing future nutcases from acting on their desires.

I'm not so sure we can fully cure mental health illness. it would require the I'll person to want help and then another the trouble of getting help. I sadly know too many people that need help but they dont think they do or dont think it will help. in a few cases, the person actually wants to feel the way they do.