Why don't you believe in God?

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Anonymous wrote:I have been reading DCUM for a while now, and I feel steeped in broken marriages, angry/depressed/overwhelmed parents, misbehaving children, and general snarkiness. Almost never do I see a reference to a deep and profound faith, or even a thought about a Creator. I do see plenty of snide comments about faith being only for the stupid, the weak, the unthinking, but I can't recall a single specific reason as to why belief in a Creator is so obviously dumb.

So now is your chance: if you do not believe in God, why not? Have you wrestled with this question and constructed a tight argument, or do you just not particularly care?


I need scientific proof. Give it to me and then I will believe


Science doesn’t have the tools or tests to prove or disprove God. Science can only show you things about the natural world. You are asking for something science is unable to provide, and scientists tell you they can’t provide, ever.


Science is a process. Take a look at this process and tell me why, if god exists, he could not be proved with this process?



Science and religion draw on different aspects of human experience. In science, explanations are based on evidence drawn from observing the natural world and conducting experiments. Since these explanations are based on evidence, they can be checked independently by others.

Religious beliefs don’t depend only on empirical evidence. They can also be based on faith and typically involve supernatural forces or entities.

God’s existence is not supported by observations or measurable facts that can scientifically prove he doesn’t exist. That does not mean that everyone needs to believe in him, but everyone has the choice to make for themselves. Science does not prove his existence, but it also cannot disprove him either. That is where faith comes in.


You didn't answer the question, really. If god exists, what part of that process can he not be proved with and why?

And if you can't answer that question, then skip it and answer this one:

How is that any different than if he did not exist?


I don’t think you have to believe in God. If you don’t feel like He exists, that’s your outlook and choice. It’s none of my business.

However, other people should not be called ignorant, disparaged, or looked down upon for their religious beliefs.

That’s all. I am not interested in debating how science can or cannot prove God to you or anyone else.
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Anonymous wrote:I have been reading DCUM for a while now, and I feel steeped in broken marriages, angry/depressed/overwhelmed parents, misbehaving children, and general snarkiness. Almost never do I see a reference to a deep and profound faith, or even a thought about a Creator. I do see plenty of snide comments about faith being only for the stupid, the weak, the unthinking, but I can't recall a single specific reason as to why belief in a Creator is so obviously dumb.

So now is your chance: if you do not believe in God, why not? Have you wrestled with this question and constructed a tight argument, or do you just not particularly care?


I need scientific proof. Give it to me and then I will believe


Science doesn’t have the tools or tests to prove or disprove God. Science can only show you things about the natural world. You are asking for something science is unable to provide, and scientists tell you they can’t provide, ever.


Science is a process. Take a look at this process and tell me why, if god exists, he could not be proved with this process?



Science and religion draw on different aspects of human experience. In science, explanations are based on evidence drawn from observing the natural world and conducting experiments. Since these explanations are based on evidence, they can be checked independently by others.

Religious beliefs don’t depend only on empirical evidence. They can also be based on faith and typically involve supernatural forces or entities.

God’s existence is not supported by observations or measurable facts that can scientifically prove he doesn’t exist. That does not mean that everyone needs to believe in him, but everyone has the choice to make for themselves. Science does not prove his existence, but it also cannot disprove him either. That is where faith comes in.


You didn't answer the question, really. If god exists, what part of that process can he not be proved with and why?

And if you can't answer that question, then skip it and answer this one:

How is that any different than if he did not exist?


I don’t think you have to believe in God. If you don’t feel like He exists, that’s your outlook and choice. It’s none of my business.

However, other people should not be called ignorant, disparaged, or looked down upon for their religious beliefs.

That’s all. I am not interested in debating how science can or cannot prove God to you or anyone else.


Then don't respond to posts asking that question. That is 100% your right.

Anyone else want to answer? How is that any different than if he did not exist?
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Religion was something created many years ago by humans with a lack of knowledge to explain the world around them. God included.
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Anonymous wrote:Religion was something created many years ago by humans with a lack of knowledge to explain the world around them. God included.


That’s your opinion.
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Anonymous wrote:Religion was something created many years ago by humans with a lack of knowledge to explain the world around them. God included.


+1

Many cultures developed their own “gods” and folklore to explain the unknown.
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Anonymous wrote:Religion was something created many years ago by humans with a lack of knowledge to explain the world around them. God included.


That’s your opinion.


Not so sure. In Karen Armstrong's "A History of God" she starts out saying that in the beginning man created God. It's a very educational, thoughtful and well researched book.
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Anonymous wrote:Religion was something created many years ago by humans with a lack of knowledge to explain the world around them. God included.


That’s your opinion.


Not so sure. In Karen Armstrong's "A History of God" she starts out saying that in the beginning man created God. It's a very educational, thoughtful and well researched book.


DP, but that's also just her opinion. You might find it compelling, but it's not like she's done "research" on the existence of God that revealed a definitive answer.
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Anonymous wrote:Religion was something created many years ago by humans with a lack of knowledge to explain the world around them. God included.


That’s your opinion.


Not so sure. In Karen Armstrong's "A History of God" she starts out saying that in the beginning man created God. It's a very educational, thoughtful and well researched book.


DP, but that's also just her opinion. You might find it compelling, but it's not like she's done "research" on the existence of God that revealed a definitive answer.


No, of course not. But one can research a history of the gods, I find James Frazer's Golden Bough the most instructive. Everywhere in the world people have created these various gods - that just a fact.
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Anonymous wrote:Religion was something created many years ago by humans with a lack of knowledge to explain the world around them. God included.


That’s your opinion.


And the same one you share about all the religions which are not yours.
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Anonymous wrote:I have been reading DCUM for a while now, and I feel steeped in broken marriages, angry/depressed/overwhelmed parents, misbehaving children, and general snarkiness. Almost never do I see a reference to a deep and profound faith, or even a thought about a Creator. I do see plenty of snide comments about faith being only for the stupid, the weak, the unthinking, but I can't recall a single specific reason as to why belief in a Creator is so obviously dumb.

So now is your chance: if you do not believe in God, why not? Have you wrestled with this question and constructed a tight argument, or do you just not particularly care?


I need scientific proof. Give it to me and then I will believe


Science doesn’t have the tools or tests to prove or disprove God. Science can only show you things about the natural world. You are asking for something science is unable to provide, and scientists tell you they can’t provide, ever.


Science is a process. Take a look at this process and tell me why, if god exists, he could not be proved with this process?



Science and religion draw on different aspects of human experience. In science, explanations are based on evidence drawn from observing the natural world and conducting experiments. Since these explanations are based on evidence, they can be checked independently by others.

Religious beliefs don’t depend only on empirical evidence. They can also be based on faith and typically involve supernatural forces or entities.

God’s existence is not supported by observations or measurable facts that can scientifically prove he doesn’t exist. That does not mean that everyone needs to believe in him, but everyone has the choice to make for themselves. Science does not prove his existence, but it also cannot disprove him either. That is where faith comes in.


You didn't answer the question, really. If god exists, what part of that process can he not be proved with and why?

And if you can't answer that question, then skip it and answer this one:

How is that any different than if he did not exist?


I don’t think you have to believe in God. If you don’t feel like He exists, that’s your outlook and choice. It’s none of my business.

However, other people should not be called ignorant, disparaged, or looked down upon for their religious beliefs.

That’s all. I am not interested in debating how science can or cannot prove God to you or anyone else.


It’s not “disparaging” to share the supernatural aspects of religion.
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Anonymous wrote:Religion was something created many years ago by humans with a lack of knowledge to explain the world around them. God included.


That’s your opinion.


Yes it is, and I believe thats what the OP was asking, was it not?
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Those that cannot think for themselves believe in fairytales.
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Anonymous wrote:Those that cannot think for themselves believe in fairytales.


That's a pronouncement, not necessarily a fact.
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Anonymous wrote:Those that cannot think for themselves believe in fairytales.


That's a pronouncement, not necessarily a fact.


Well, they do blindly believe what other people tell them…
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Anonymous wrote:Those that cannot think for themselves believe in fairytales.


That's a pronouncement, not necessarily a fact.


Well, they do blindly believe what other people tell them…


In some cases, not so blindly. When it comes to religion, there may be a long family history and tradition of belief.

Also, religion at some level is often a part of everyday life -- e.g., taking an oath that ends in "So help me God" saying "god bless you" after a sneeze, etc.
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