Why don't you believe in God?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think it's dumb; I just don't believe. To me, it's akin to believing in Santa Claus or the Tooth Fairy. I haven't "wrestled with it" and it doesn't bother me. It also doesn't bother me if others believe. To each their own.

100% agree. I just don't believe, I don't know why. It doesn't bother me what other people believe in. I don't talk about religion with other people anyway.

If only more believers were like these two non-believers.

Instead, in our society, religious believers often assume that others are believers and talk about their belief as if it’s real and universal and even feel it’s OK (sometimes even required by God) to try to convert nonbelievers.

Some religious people will openly tell people who aren’t religious that they’re going to hell or are praying for their conversion. This behavior is condoned, even encouraged, by their religion and is socially acceptable.

I think society would be better off if people spoke openly about their religious beliefs or lack of beliefs in much the same way they talk about other life choices.

Do you have problems moving about as an adult in society?

If someone tries to “convert” you, say “I am not interested!”

If someone tells you you are “going to hell,” say whatever and remove yourself from their presence further. (Are you the poster told in childhood you were “going to hell” by an aunt? She was a jerk, forget her, seek therapy and quit posting about it every day/week/month/year here.

If people say they are “praying for you,” legally, you can’t stop them. They mean well. It’s best to tell them no thanks, or just say thanks and don’t worry about it. Also, the care allowed to pray for who and what they wish.

You are too involved and worried about other people. Focus on yourself. People are legally allowed to do these things, and morally. You have to learn to function in this world. You are not going to eradicate religion or prayer because you don’t like it.

DP. If you don’t want people to complain about religion then keep it to yourself. Stop trying to shove it down everyone else’s throats.

Expressing my own religion is not forcing you to be religious. Learn the difference.

Express all you want on your own. Stop forcing your beliefs on the rest of us.

Your religion doesn’t take precedence over mine.

What part of my beliefs are taking precedence over yours? How are my beliefs being forced upon you, or anyone else?

Not you specifically. The broader “you” that includes the religious extremists trying to take over our government and force their religious beliefs on everyone else.

People have a right to freedom of religion and speech. The government just can’t establish a state religion.

The government can’t tell anyone their religion is false, nor tell them to “keep it to themselves.” Neither can you. You can tell someone you don’t believe as they do, and walk away from them, unfriend them on facebook, or stop associating with them.

Tell that to the GOP.

The government is trying to impose the religious beliefs of Christian extremists.

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It's not incumbent upon people who don't believe in an unproven concept to explain why they don't believe. It falls on the believers to explain why they believe in an unproven concept. This is true in all things in life, except for some reason religion gets a pass.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not incumbent upon people who don't believe in an unproven concept to explain why they don't believe. It falls on the believers to explain why they believe in an unproven concept. This is true in all things in life, except for some reason religion gets a pass.

Nobody has the right in the US to tell someone their religion is false…not you, not the government. Also, no one is forced to believe any religion and can be atheist or agnostic. The government has no religion they have chosen as a state religion. It’s how the United States operates.

You have a problem with those things?

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Anonymous wrote:It's not incumbent upon people who don't believe in an unproven concept to explain why they don't believe. It falls on the believers to explain why they believe in an unproven concept. This is true in all things in life, except for some reason religion gets a pass.

Nobody has the right in the US to tell someone their religion is false…not you, not the government. Also, no one is forced to believe any religion and can be atheist or agnostic. The government has no religion they have chosen as a state religion. It’s how the United States operates.

You have a problem with those things?

You're not even responding to what I wrote. Your comment is entirely tangential to my argument so I guess I have nothing to respond to.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's not incumbent upon people who don't believe in an unproven concept to explain why they don't believe. It falls on the believers to explain why they believe in an unproven concept. This is true in all things in life, except for some reason religion gets a pass.

Nobody has the right in the US to tell someone their religion is false…not you, not the government. Also, no one is forced to believe any religion and can be atheist or agnostic. The government has no religion they have chosen as a state religion. It’s how the United States operates.

You have a problem with those things?

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The government can't, but people can absolutely say a religion is "false".

The earlier PP has a great point. OP is effectively asking people to prove a negative.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not incumbent upon people who don't believe in an unproven concept to explain why they don't believe. It falls on the believers to explain why they believe in an unproven concept. This is true in all things in life, except for some reason religion gets a pass.

Nobody has the right in the US to tell someone their religion is false…not you, not the government. Also, no one is forced to believe any religion and can be atheist or agnostic. The government has no religion they have chosen as a state religion. It’s how the United States operates.

You have a problem with those things?

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The government can't, but people can absolutely say a religion is "false".

The earlier PP has a great point. OP is effectively asking people to prove a negative.

People have a right to say they don’t believe religion, but they don’t have the right to call religion false.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not incumbent upon people who don't believe in an unproven concept to explain why they don't believe. It falls on the believers to explain why they believe in an unproven concept. This is true in all things in life, except for some reason religion gets a pass.

Nobody has the right in the US to tell someone their religion is false…not you, not the government. Also, no one is forced to believe any religion and can be atheist or agnostic. The government has no religion they have chosen as a state religion. It’s how the United States operates.

You have a problem with those things?

The government can't, but people can absolutely say a religion is "false".

The earlier PP has a great point. OP is effectively asking people to prove a negative.

People have a right to say they don’t believe religion, but they don’t have the right to call religion false.

Of course people have the right to say that.

All religions are built on lies. There are no supernatural entities.

There. I did it. No one is going to come and arrest me. At least not until the religious extremists continue their takeover of the US government.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's not incumbent upon people who don't believe in an unproven concept to explain why they don't believe. It falls on the believers to explain why they believe in an unproven concept. This is true in all things in life, except for some reason religion gets a pass.

Nobody has the right in the US to tell someone their religion is false…not you, not the government. Also, no one is forced to believe any religion and can be atheist or agnostic. The government has no religion they have chosen as a state religion. It’s how the United States operates.

You have a problem with those things?

That's really not true. For the longest time the IRS denied Scientology tax exemption as a religion. I happen to think they were right, but eventually, for reasons that are unclear, to me anyway, the government eventually gave in. The government very much does have the right to tell someone their religion is false, i.e., not a real religion.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's not incumbent upon people who don't believe in an unproven concept to explain why they don't believe. It falls on the believers to explain why they believe in an unproven concept. This is true in all things in life, except for some reason religion gets a pass.

Nobody has the right in the US to tell someone their religion is false…not you, not the government. Also, no one is forced to believe any religion and can be atheist or agnostic. The government has no religion they have chosen as a state religion. It’s how the United States operates.

You have a problem with those things?

Not sure what you are trying to say here. I believe Mitt Romney was very much hurt by his religious affiliation when he ran for president - perhaps ironically it came mostly from members of his own party.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not incumbent upon people who don't believe in an unproven concept to explain why they don't believe. It falls on the believers to explain why they believe in an unproven concept. This is true in all things in life, except for some reason religion gets a pass.

Nobody has the right in the US to tell someone their religion is false…not you, not the government. Also, no one is forced to believe any religion and can be atheist or agnostic. The government has no religion they have chosen as a state religion. It’s how the United States operates.

You have a problem with those things?

DP here. Sorry in this country, and this forum, everyone has the right to tell you if they believe your religion is false. If they make that claim, you should challenge them to prove it.

[Anonymous]

I believe in something bigger than us, but it's not the God that has been forced upon us.