US has no good options in Ukraine

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Alexander Vindman (the one who blew the whistle on Trump's corrupt withholding of Congressionally mandated military aid from Ukraine):

Russia’s first actions are hit or miss. It’s not looking as bad as I would have thought. Fewer cruise missile & air strikes. An early use of ground forces without reducing Ukraine’s military.

We will learn a great deal about the Russian military. It seems weaker than suspected.

https://twitter.com/AVindman/status/1496828413935562757

He sounds like Bagdad Bob. Ukrainian resistance in the east has supposedly collapsed. The Russians took and currently hold an airport 15 miles from Kiev. Russian amphibious assaults aren't being contested and Russian columns are steadily advancing from the north.

The left is delusional

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Over the last 50 years, and especially in the last 30, the US has become too reliant on imports and cannot be self sufficient: from oil, to processors to micro chips, to food, to the clothes/shoes you wear, your covid tests, medicine, autos, your iPhone, computers, machinery, just absolutely everything. List all the things you use on a daily basis that are 100% made in the USA; then list the things that are at least partially made in China.

We've economically put ourselves in a horrible position of dependency on foreign everything because we LOVE cheap stuff. And the chickens have now come home to roost. Russia has us by the balls, especially if China sides with them. The US cannot sanction Russia enough to make a difference that wouldn't result in a retaliation by Russia/china that would devastate the US, and the US knows it. This isn't WWII where "We Can Do It" and women save the day.

Look at Germany Russia has threatened to shut off the gas pipeline against Germany. That would actually affect people all the way to France, as an example. No heat, no hot water, many will be unable to cook. That's just a small example.

This situation is incredibly complicated. I am not pro or anti Biden, but I am anti being so dependent on cheap foreign made goods that we have to sit on our hands while innocent people get bombed and killed. Look what we have done to ourselves.

We have China by the balls just as much as they have us. We can meaningfully sanction Russia because they have a small economy and their energy exports aren't coming here. Whether or not Europe goes along with it is an open question, but we can hit them with the kind of sanctions that we have on Iran and make their companies choose doing business with the US and doing business with Russia.

What kind of sanctions will make any difference to Russia or Putin? They’re not Iran. He won’t care. I’m sorry but I really think you’re wrong.

Europe cannot go along with this, especially re the gas pipeline. It affects way more countries than Germany. Just wait. I hate to be right about this.

The gas pipeline was not operational. They can miss it. No gas was coming through anyway. It was years away. Sanction that eliminate Russia from the modern world. Off the banking system. Anyone who deals with them -- same -- even China. Remember the world even Russia has become interconnected. They cannot take the isolation. Only countries that can survive something like this are US, Canada and Australia. No one else could. Will there be pain, sure.

Maybe it works/maybe it does not. The alternative is a war. Not a world war. Russia isn't that kid of power anymore. But a regional war involving the US. Russia will lose pretty bad. Iraq was better equipped than Russia is today.

And then Russia hits us with a cyber attack that shuts down banking or a power grid. And we are wholly unprepared for that.

With China’s help. Buttttttt TTRRRRUMMMMMPPPPPP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Alexander Vindman (the one who blew the whistle on Trump's corrupt withholding of Congressionally mandated military aid from Ukraine):

Russia’s first actions are hit or miss. It’s not looking as bad as I would have thought. Fewer cruise missile & air strikes. An early use of ground forces without reducing Ukraine’s military.

We will learn a great deal about the Russian military. It seems weaker than suspected.

https://twitter.com/AVindman/status/1496828413935562757

He sounds like Bagdad Bob. Ukrainian resistance in the east has supposedly collapsed. The Russians took and currently hold an airport 15 miles from Kiev. Russian amphibious assaults aren't being contested and Russian columns are steadily advancing from the north.

The left is delusional

Russia will destroy us because people are more concerned with scoring internal political points than in uniting against what should be a common enemy.

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

And then Russia hits us with a cyber attack that shuts down banking or a power grid. And we are wholly unprepared for that.

Your assessment of the relative strength of Russia versus that of the United States seems very poorly founded. You think they're more prepared for us than we are for them? I mean, it's war. It would be a shit show all around. Enormous suffering. But we're better than they are.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Over the last 50 years, and especially in the last 30, the US has become too reliant on imports and cannot be self sufficient: from oil, to processors to micro chips, to food, to the clothes/shoes you wear, your covid tests, medicine, autos, your iPhone, computers, machinery, just absolutely everything. List all the things you use on a daily basis that are 100% made in the USA; then list the things that are at least partially made in China.

We've economically put ourselves in a horrible position of dependency on foreign everything because we LOVE cheap stuff. And the chickens have now come home to roost. Russia has us by the balls, especially if China sides with them. The US cannot sanction Russia enough to make a difference that wouldn't result in a retaliation by Russia/china that would devastate the US, and the US knows it. This isn't WWII where "We Can Do It" and women save the day.

Look at Germany Russia has threatened to shut off the gas pipeline against Germany. That would actually affect people all the way to France, as an example. No heat, no hot water, many will be unable to cook. That's just a small example.

This situation is incredibly complicated. I am not pro or anti Biden, but I am anti being so dependent on cheap foreign made goods that we have to sit on our hands while innocent people get bombed and killed. Look what we have done to ourselves.

We have China by the balls just as much as they have us. We can meaningfully sanction Russia because they have a small economy and their energy exports aren't coming here. Whether or not Europe goes along with it is an open question, but we can hit them with the kind of sanctions that we have on Iran and make their companies choose doing business with the US and doing business with Russia.

What kind of sanctions will make any difference to Russia or Putin? They’re not Iran. He won’t care. I’m sorry but I really think you’re wrong.

Europe cannot go along with this, especially re the gas pipeline. It affects way more countries than Germany. Just wait. I hate to be right about this.

The gas pipeline was not operational. They can miss it. No gas was coming through anyway. It was years away. Sanction that eliminate Russia from the modern world. Off the banking system. Anyone who deals with them -- same -- even China. Remember the world even Russia has become interconnected. They cannot take the isolation. Only countries that can survive something like this are US, Canada and Australia. No one else could. Will there be pain, sure.

Maybe it works/maybe it does not. The alternative is a war. Not a world war. Russia isn't that kid of power anymore. But a regional war involving the US. Russia will lose pretty bad. Iraq was better equipped than Russia is today.

Correct, the new pipeline is not completed and not operational. HOWEVER, Germany and other European countries are already reliant on Russian natural gas. This pipeline was a method to make them more dependent. But as of today, even without the new pipeline, Europeans are still heating their home with Russian (and American) natural gas. Putin has threatened to shut down the existing pipelines.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Alexander Vindman (the one who blew the whistle on Trump's corrupt withholding of Congressionally mandated military aid from Ukraine):

Russia’s first actions are hit or miss. It’s not looking as bad as I would have thought. Fewer cruise missile & air strikes. An early use of ground forces without reducing Ukraine’s military.

We will learn a great deal about the Russian military. It seems weaker than suspected.

https://twitter.com/AVindman/status/1496828413935562757

He sounds like Bagdad Bob. Ukrainian resistance in the east has supposedly collapsed. The Russians took and currently hold an airport 15 miles from Kiev. Russian amphibious assaults aren't being contested and Russian columns are steadily advancing from the north.

The left is delusional

"The left." A shadowy, undefined group upon whom you can project anything you want.

[Anonymous]

German econ minister just said smgrmany will not send weapons to Ukraine

Lolololololol

A car dealership with a flag!

[Anonymous]

German chancellor Olaf Scholz warned Boris Johnson that Germany would not support kicking Russia out of SWIFT, and neither would the EU: FT

Lololololol

Germany is so cringe!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:German chancellor Olaf Scholz warned Boris Johnson that Germany would not support kicking Russia out of SWIFT, and neither would the EU: FT

Lololololol

Germany is so cringe!

Former Nazis standing with current fascists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do the Russians really want to f**k with the Germans again? Germans backed by the U.S.?

Bro, Germany just told uk no on cutting Russians off from swift.

Germany knows Russia could use conventional forces only to break the country in a week if they wanted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Alexander Vindman (the one who blew the whistle on Trump's corrupt withholding of Congressionally mandated military aid from Ukraine):

Russia’s first actions are hit or miss. It’s not looking as bad as I would have thought. Fewer cruise missile & air strikes. An early use of ground forces without reducing Ukraine’s military.

We will learn a great deal about the Russian military. It seems weaker than suspected.

https://twitter.com/AVindman/status/1496828413935562757

He sounds like Bagdad Bob. Ukrainian resistance in the east has supposedly collapsed. The Russians took and currently hold an airport 15 miles from Kiev. Russian amphibious assaults aren't being contested and Russian columns are steadily advancing from the north.

The left is delusional

Russia will destroy us because people are more concerned with scoring internal political points than in uniting against what should be a common enemy.

I feel the conservatives will do anything including openly supporting Putin. They will greet Putin with open arms when he attacks the US.

[Anonymous]

BoJo has been a disaster with his wife puppeteer in charge

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

And then Russia hits us with a cyber attack that shuts down banking or a power grid. And we are wholly unprepared for that.

Your assessment of the relative strength of Russia versus that of the United States seems very poorly founded. You think they're more prepared for us than we are for them? I mean, it's war. It would be a shit show all around. Enormous suffering. But we're better than they are.

Russia and China have formed an alliance. Don’t underestimate that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do the Russians really want to f**k with the Germans again? Germans backed by the U.S.?

Bro, Germany just told uk no on cutting Russians off from swift.

Germany knows Russia could use conventional forces only to break the country in a week if they wanted.

Lol no Russia would be destroyed if they attacked Germany. Russian is not first world military.