Why do UVA and Michigan attract such affluent student bodies?

Anonymous
Just to compare public universities (from the NYT):

Students from top 1% of families

Michigan 9.3%
Virginia 8.5%
Illinois 2.5%
Penn State 2.3%
Wisconsin 1.7%

Students from top 10% of families

Michigan 49%
Virginia 49%
Illinois 30%
Penn State 27%
Wisconsin 19%
Anonymous
Michigan and UVA are highly selective schools. Now do this list for private colleges. It's not very complicated.
Anonymous
These are good to excellent schools, and are great options for kids looking for a big place or that might want a break from East Coast living.

Their parents can pay full out of state tuition, so the family has some means.
Anonymous
Virginia is a HCOL state with a lot of wealthy people.
Anonymous
Michigan is 50% OOS and most people that go can afford to pay full or close to full fare.

UVA is a much smaller in-state school and is fed by competitive, rich kids from the DMV and Richmond areas. I suspect most of the OOS kids are full fare and therefore rich.

The other schools listed are at least a couple of tiers below and therefore less selective/sought after.
Anonymous
Top 10% isn’t that affluent. Two middle manager parents at F500 would be in that bucket.
Anonymous
Until you have been at an Ivy or Georgetown, etc, you have not seen extreme wealth …
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Michigan is 50% OOS and most people that go can afford to pay full or close to full fare.

UVA is a much smaller in-state school and is fed by competitive, rich kids from the DMV and Richmond areas. I suspect most of the OOS kids are full fare and therefore rich.

The other schools listed are at least a couple of tiers below and therefore less selective/sought after.


Michigan draws OOS kids from very HCOL areas like NYC/NYC Suburbs/LA. There's a link with NY Finance types and also big real estate investors.

It provides a respected education while also offering the fun, rah rah stuff that people associate with stereotypical college.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Just to compare public universities (from the NYT):

Students from top 1% of families

Michigan 9.3%
Virginia 8.5%
Illinois 2.5%
Penn State 2.3%
Wisconsin 1.7%

Students from top 10% of families

Michigan 49%
Virginia 49%
Illinois 30%
Penn State 27%
Wisconsin 19%


Link?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Just to compare public universities (from the NYT):

Students from top 1% of families

Michigan 9.3%
Virginia 8.5%
Illinois 2.5%
Penn State 2.3%
Wisconsin 1.7%

Students from top 10% of families

Michigan 49%
Virginia 49%
Illinois 30%
Penn State 27%
Wisconsin 19%


For starters, WI as a state does not have a huge pocket of wealthy people (most would end up in Chicago, not Madison or Milwaukee). Whereas VA has NoVa with a very large population of rich/UMC people.

MI is likely the same. Then for OOS---MI is extremely popular, but most are not paying $75K+ for a state school(or any school) if they are not well off.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Top 10% isn’t that affluent. Two middle manager parents at F500 would be in that bucket.


But compared to WI, there are more at that level I suspect. Not a lot of Wealthy/rich in WI as a whole
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just to compare public universities (from the NYT):

Students from top 1% of families

Michigan 9.3%
Virginia 8.5%
Illinois 2.5%
Penn State 2.3%
Wisconsin 1.7%

Students from top 10% of families

Michigan 49%
Virginia 49%
Illinois 30%
Penn State 27%
Wisconsin 19%


For starters, WI as a state does not have a huge pocket of wealthy people (most would end up in Chicago, not Madison or Milwaukee). Whereas VA has NoVa with a very large population of rich/UMC people.

MI is likely the same. Then for OOS---MI is extremely popular, but most are not paying $75K+ for a state school(or any school) if they are not well off.



The NoVa kids generally aren’t the rich kids at UVA.
Anonymous
One reason U of Mich got so good is that the Detroit area was one of the wealthiest in the world for a while due to the auto industry. And even after the American auto industry sagged in the last 35 yrs of the 20th century, there was/is still a lot of money in the state. There are suburbs of Detroit you wouldn’t believe.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Top 10% isn’t that affluent. Two middle manager parents at F500 would be in that bucket.


But compared to WI, there are more at that level I suspect. Not a lot of Wealthy/rich in WI as a whole

I an from Wisconsin. There are plenty of wealthy people here, so stop stereotyping.
Anonymous
My NOVA DD is a student at UVA. She says the very wealthy kids at UVA come from NE boarding schools. I guess some of them did not get into ivys. Their families can easily afford UVA out of state tuition. We are lucky to be paying in-state tuition, which, for our family is still a big sacrifice. Not all NOVA families are UMC or UC.
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