Early Predictions 2028: AOC, Whitmer, Newsome or …?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Cali slickster just can’t get out of his own way.

Why is he a slickster? Because he’s not morbidly obese and can blend his makeup?

Like Trump is enriching his family every day via crypto and movies no one asked for and his cabinet members are using private jets to visit their married and/or obvious spy significant others and you’re talking about parking.

NP.

Let’s discuss the personal winery he owns in Napa, and go from there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Cali slickster just can’t get out of his own way.

Why is he a slickster? Because he’s not morbidly obese and can blend his makeup?

Like Trump is enriching his family every day via crypto and movies no one asked for and his cabinet members are using private jets to visit their married and/or obvious spy significant others and you’re talking about parking.

NP.

Let’s discuss the personal winery he owns in Napa, and go from there.

Who? Gavin or Pelosi (or both)?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The problem for us isn't just that the candidates are uninspiring, it's also that our governing results are poor. We're the party of the teachers' union, but we aren't succeeding at teaching kids to read. We're the party of compassion, but our anti-homelessness spending enriches Democratic activists without ever reducing homelessness at all. We're the party of comprehensive immigration reform, but we let the border get overrun by millions of third-world illegal immigrants. We need some success stories. Newsom and Buttigieg and AOC and Harris don't have good track records to point to. There may be a few midwestern Democratic governors who have done better. We should elevate them.

An even bigger problem is US. The dcurbanmom types. The covid Karens. The SUV drivers who want to ban "climate denial" while we burn plenty of fossil fuels ourselves. We clearly, proudly, and obviously consider ourselves the moral, intellectual, and class superiors of all Republican voters, all less affluent middle class people, and everyone in flyover states. We think that religion is stupid but that climate and covid obsession is holy. 100% of our Senators voted to block a ban on men in girls' locker rooms. To the average swing voter, we seem crazy, haughty, and contemptuous. We have insulted everyone who ever dared to vote against Hillary, Joe, or Kamala, insisting that they are stupid racist Putin dupes.

We have to face the facts. The average American doesn't like or respect dcurbanmom types NEARLY as much as they used to. They reject our claims to moral, intellectual, and class superiority. They think we are preening, virtue-signaling, hypocritical, selfish fools.

We cannot continue to be "leading voices" in the Democratic Party and hope for success. We need to sit this one out. No more talk of climate or trans or the angelic undocumented from laptop class ladies. Maybe the African-American Baptist Church Democrats can run this next election and win back some swing voters. But the upper middle class striver progressives definitely can't. We've worn out our welcome.

That's the lesson of Trump's big win in 2024. His voters AREN'T actually brainwashed cult members. They see him more clearly and less emotionally than we do! They are well aware of his faults, and they are very disappointed in him. They were disappointed after his first term too! But they voted for him anyway. After the insurrection. After the impeachments. After the felony convictions.

Why? Because they trust US even LESS!

We've come to see our party affiliation as central to our status. No tacky Trump boat parades for us! But what this means is that we can't see ourselves clearly anymore. We think we're great and Republicans are subhuman. And we kinda think swing voters who dared to vote for Trump in any of the last three elections are subhuman too. Well, message received by the subhumans. They know we hate them because we keep telling them. So they won't be voting for us to lead them any time soon, thank you very much.

Can YOU run for office? If we had Democrats like you, I might actually consider voting for one again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since nobody on this thread seems to like any current potential Democratic candidate, I’m wondering what person, alive or dead, you would consider as an ideal candidate for this era. I suspect some of you are looking for unobtainium.

Bill Clinton.

As for who I would like to see run - Stephan A. Smith. We need someone who has the charisma, can tell it like it is, isn't too crazy in either direction. He's actually polling high for someone who isn't a politician and hasn't said they were running. I hope he changes his mind and decides to run.

Democrats would never nominate someone who tells it like it is. They're going to wrap themselves around the axle of climate change, unfettered healthcare for everyone, 0pen borders, multi-culti, globalism and the systematic redistribution of income by any means necessary. Anyone who doesn't tow that line is out.

Why spew lies about Democrats on this thread when you can just STFU and vote Republican?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The problem for us isn't just that the candidates are uninspiring, it's also that our governing results are poor. We're the party of the teachers' union, but we aren't succeeding at teaching kids to read. We're the party of compassion, but our anti-homelessness spending enriches Democratic activists without ever reducing homelessness at all. We're the party of comprehensive immigration reform, but we let the border get overrun by millions of third-world illegal immigrants. We need some success stories. Newsom and Buttigieg and AOC and Harris don't have good track records to point to. There may be a few midwestern Democratic governors who have done better. We should elevate them.

An even bigger problem is US. The dcurbanmom types. The covid Karens. The SUV drivers who want to ban "climate denial" while we burn plenty of fossil fuels ourselves. We clearly, proudly, and obviously consider ourselves the moral, intellectual, and class superiors of all Republican voters, all less affluent middle class people, and everyone in flyover states. We think that religion is stupid but that climate and covid obsession is holy. 100% of our Senators voted to block a ban on men in girls' locker rooms. To the average swing voter, we seem crazy, haughty, and contemptuous. We have insulted everyone who ever dared to vote against Hillary, Joe, or Kamala, insisting that they are stupid racist Putin dupes.

We have to face the facts. The average American doesn't like or respect dcurbanmom types NEARLY as much as they used to. They reject our claims to moral, intellectual, and class superiority. They think we are preening, virtue-signaling, hypocritical, selfish fools.

We cannot continue to be "leading voices" in the Democratic Party and hope for success. We need to sit this one out. No more talk of climate or trans or the angelic undocumented from laptop class ladies. Maybe the African-American Baptist Church Democrats can run this next election and win back some swing voters. But the upper middle class striver progressives definitely can't. We've worn out our welcome.

That's the lesson of Trump's big win in 2024. His voters AREN'T actually brainwashed cult members. They see him more clearly and less emotionally than we do! They are well aware of his faults, and they are very disappointed in him. They were disappointed after his first term too! But they voted for him anyway. After the insurrection. After the impeachments. After the felony convictions.

Why? Because they trust US even LESS!

We've come to see our party affiliation as central to our status. No tacky Trump boat parades for us! But what this means is that we can't see ourselves clearly anymore. We think we're great and Republicans are subhuman. And we kinda think swing voters who dared to vote for Trump in any of the last three elections are subhuman too. Well, message received by the subhumans. They know we hate them because we keep telling them. So they won't be voting for us to lead them any time soon, thank you very much.

Agree. But this is too logical so DCUM will ignore this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Since nobody on this thread seems to like any current potential Democratic candidate, I’m wondering what person, alive or dead, you would consider as an ideal candidate for this era. I suspect some of you are looking for unobtainium.

Bill Clinton.

As for who I would like to see run - Stephan A. Smith. We need someone who has the charisma, can tell it like it is, isn't too crazy in either direction. He's actually polling high for someone who isn't a politician and hasn't said they were running. I hope he changes his mind and decides to run.

Democrats would never nominate someone who tells it like it is. They're going to wrap themselves around the axle of climate change, unfettered healthcare for everyone, 0pen borders, multi-culti, globalism and the systematic redistribution of income by any means necessary. Anyone who doesn't tow that line is out.

Why spew lies about Democrats on this thread when you can just STFU and vote Republican?

DP Do everyone a favor and don’t run for office or campaign. Find another party to support and spit on their supporters.

[Anonymous]

The problem is status signaling run amok. White upper-middle class strivers are highly motivated, consciously and unconsciously, to differentiate ourselves from merely middle class white people. We don’t want to be mistaken for rednecks or flyover people or even small business owners. Whether we’re lawyers or lobbyists or baristas with masters degrees, we want to feel like we have more in common with the centimillionaire Clintons than with our own slightly less fancy cousins in flyover states. We obviously can’t prove that with money…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The problem for us isn't just that the candidates are uninspiring, it's also that our governing results are poor. We're the party of the teachers' union, but we aren't succeeding at teaching kids to read. We're the party of compassion, but our anti-homelessness spending enriches Democratic activists without ever reducing homelessness at all. We're the party of comprehensive immigration reform, but we let the border get overrun by millions of third-world illegal immigrants. We need some success stories. Newsom and Buttigieg and AOC and Harris don't have good track records to point to. There may be a few midwestern Democratic governors who have done better. We should elevate them.

An even bigger problem is US. The dcurbanmom types. The covid Karens. The SUV drivers who want to ban "climate denial" while we burn plenty of fossil fuels ourselves. We clearly, proudly, and obviously consider ourselves the moral, intellectual, and class superiors of all Republican voters, all less affluent middle class people, and everyone in flyover states. We think that religion is stupid but that climate and covid obsession is holy. 100% of our Senators voted to block a ban on men in girls' locker rooms. To the average swing voter, we seem crazy, haughty, and contemptuous. We have insulted everyone who ever dared to vote against Hillary, Joe, or Kamala, insisting that they are stupid racist Putin dupes.

We have to face the facts. The average American doesn't like or respect dcurbanmom types NEARLY as much as they used to. They reject our claims to moral, intellectual, and class superiority. They think we are preening, virtue-signaling, hypocritical, selfish fools.

We cannot continue to be "leading voices" in the Democratic Party and hope for success. We need to sit this one out. No more talk of climate or trans or the angelic undocumented from laptop class ladies. Maybe the African-American Baptist Church Democrats can run this next election and win back some swing voters. But the upper middle class striver progressives definitely can't. We've worn out our welcome.

That's the lesson of Trump's big win in 2024. His voters AREN'T actually brainwashed cult members. They see him more clearly and less emotionally than we do! They are well aware of his faults, and they are very disappointed in him. They were disappointed after his first term too! But they voted for him anyway. After the insurrection. After the impeachments. After the felony convictions.

Why? Because they trust US even LESS!

We've come to see our party affiliation as central to our status. No tacky Trump boat parades for us! But what this means is that we can't see ourselves clearly anymore. We think we're great and Republicans are subhuman. And we kinda think swing voters who dared to vote for Trump in any of the last three elections are subhuman too. Well, message received by the subhumans. They know we hate them because we keep telling them. So they won't be voting for us to lead them any time soon, thank you very much.

Can YOU run for office? If we had Democrats like you, I might actually consider voting for one again.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The problem is status signaling run amok. White upper-middle class strivers are highly motivated, consciously and unconsciously, to differentiate ourselves from merely middle class white people. We don’t want to be mistaken for rednecks or flyover people or even small business owners. Whether we’re lawyers or lobbyists or baristas with masters degrees, we want to feel like we have more in common with the centimillionaire Clintons than with our own slightly less fancy cousins in flyover states. We obviously can’t prove that with money…

When i moved here from Detroit over 30 years ago, Dems here acted as if Dems from there were not legit. One blatantly candidate took it for granted one year. The ire toward so-called flyover Dems has been palpably worse over time. GOP has its issues, Dems, if they’re smart, should at least acknowledge theirs, instead of deflecting by saying well at least we aren’t as bad as the guy we’ve got now. I’m so done with that garbage line.

The Dems will win in 2028, but not because people like them more than the other side unless MAYBE they go through a 12 step program. They won’t though. They will, like DJT, blame it on outside factors rather than looking inward first. Maybe then I’ll actively support them again. Right now, they’re as toxic as the other side, just painted in brighter colors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The problem is status signaling run amok. White upper-middle class strivers are highly motivated, consciously and unconsciously, to differentiate ourselves from merely middle class white people. We don’t want to be mistaken for rednecks or flyover people or even small business owners. Whether we’re lawyers or lobbyists or baristas with masters degrees, we want to feel like we have more in common with the centimillionaire Clintons than with our own slightly less fancy cousins in flyover states. We obviously can’t prove that with money…

You’ve got that right.

[Anonymous]

…top 1 percenters in DC have far more in common financially with top 10 percenters in Texas than with top 0.1 and 0.01 percenter politicians, donors, and CEOs.

And we can’t prove our similarity to the fat cats with power. We dcurbanmoms are power adjacent, but not powerful like rich donors.

So we endlessly repeat abstract ideas given to us as cheap status markers. We’re “better” because we “believe” in global warming, trans kids, the incredible benefits of illegal immigration, the pronouncements of pharma company scientists, etc. And we’re more classy and tasteful than Trump because his in-demand luxury buildings have tacky gold in them while our redone bathrooms have neutral beiges…

[Anonymous]

Our status anxiety has made us downright hateful to our own “poorer” (barely) cousins. And it has made us dumb and oversimplistic (ALL Pfizer products are great, ALL Climate science is apolitical and unexaggerated, ALL Republicans are Nazis.). We who are at such pains to feel smart have stopped sounding smart!

If we were truly among the aristocrats, we would feel noblesse oblige toward our own cousins, not revulsion and subconscious fear of being confused for one of them!

[Anonymous]

The irony is that our status anxiety and resulting political rage have pulled us DOWN to the MAGA level and below. Any AI sentiment analysis will tell you that Democrat writing is far more angry and hate-filled then Republican writing.

The true aristocrats, the rich and powerful whose fake ideas we repeat to sound smart, are far less invested in partisan politics than we are. They own both parties and rarely feel angry.

We are who we are, but we have delusions of grandeur, anger at those on the rung below, and a bunch of silly virtue-signaling talking points that are increasingly delusional.

And all this is more transparent to everyone watching than it is to us. Every post on here from a white lady insisting that unchecked third world illegal immigration is an unalloyed good is seen for what is and prompts eye-rolls.

[Anonymous]

And across America, 10s of millions of moderate Republicans, Democrats, and Independents are rolling their eyes at us. That does not bode well for our leadership aspirations!

[Anonymous]

In fairness, we aren’t ONLY motivated by status anxiety.

The more mercenary among us hate Trump for upsetting the establishment apple cart that has made federal government adjacency so lucrative over the decades

The misguided altruists among us are so motivated by desire to feel kind that they’ve been tricked into taking the side of the most extreme underdogs (illegal immigrants, gender confusion sufferers, etc) against their own families.

And the more “spiritual” among us have looked to politics and “Science!” as substitutes for the religions they’ve abandoned. Our media is pretty explicit about this, referring to Obama as a Savior and Fauci as a Saint.