2024 US News rankings
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Anonymous
| Northwestern is an Ivy and UChicago reject school. All the non-Harvard Ivies are Harvard reject schools. |
Anonymous
How about Idaho State? Harvard reject school? |
Anonymous
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Alright, let's do a proper list.
MIT Princeton Stanford Harvard CalTech Duke Yale Penn Chicago Rice Northwestern Brown Vanderbilt Michigan Berkeley Johns Hopkins Columbia UCLA Dartmouth Williams Notre Dame Swarthmore Cornell Annapolis Amherst West Point Bowdoin Pomona Georgetown Nothing else matters |
Anonymous
Chicago was often ranked below Northwestern even in USNWR and was regularly harder to get into. I don't know where that comment is coming from. Northwestern also has a lot more endowment $$ (+ over $1.2 billion). The 2nd one makes sense except for those who prefer Yale or Princeton. They are reasonable alternatives for the same cost, as is Stanford. With some extra grant $$, you could consider the "other school in Cambridge" too. |
Anonymous
Does undergrad matter that much for those of us under 45 other than it helped us get first jobs and admission to great grad schools? I went to a good school on your list of places that matter and a 2nd grad school on this list too. The grad institution is more important in terms of $$ and reputation even in social conversations, though I have noticed in DC I'm asked where I went to college far more often than anywhere else I've lived. I can only think of one person in my college friend group who didn't go to grad school (we are all still under 40 but it seems similar for those who are a little older too), and rank and prestige matter more there whether it be b-school (M7), law school (T14), or PhD programs (where the top grad schools are producing the vast majority of faculty members). |
Anonymous
Not even close to right with how EA and ED programs have fundamentally changed college admissions. PP bought into all those UChicago pamphlets and the fee waivers meant to lower their acceptance rate. With Chicago letting in so few people outside of early rounds and allowing you off the waitlist only knowing you'll attend, you could call all Ivies and almost any other schools UChicago reject schools 
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Anonymous
As a general FYI, if someone writes CalTech, they are not very familiar with Caltech. I see it written as CalTech quite a bit on DCUM, which is surprising given all the STEM discussion. |
Anonymous
Duke still too high |
Anonymous
| It’s Harvard or bust. No other college matters. They are all Harvard rejects. |
Anonymous
Nope, only Harvard matters. The rest are fillers |
Anonymous
Living under a rock? People are wise to how Harvard is not accepting the best and the brightest but the rich and the connected. We shall see what the long-term consequence of such policy is in the near future especially with fewer and fewer needs for attorneys and MBAs. |
Anonymous
| Obviously it’s not just Harvard or bust. Kids attend Stanford for the better weather, better tech opportunities, and being in the West. Kids attend Princeton for the deep undergrad focus. Kids attend MIT or Caltech for the intense focus on STEM and dedication to research. Kids attend Duke for the better weather, school spirit, and being in the South. Kids attend Yale for the intense focus on humanities. Kids attend Wharton to have the best direct business training out of undergrad. Kids attend Columbia to be in Manhattan. I agree there are few alternatives to Harvard, but they’re there and they’re attractive for a variety of reasons to different kids. |
Anonymous
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“ Kids attend Duke for the better weather, school spirit, and being in the South.”
Notice no mention of academics here. |
Anonymous
+1 |
Anonymous
There’s really no right or wrong. It’s all based on opinion! |