7/24/23 Trial of Usman Shahid -- driver who killed two Oakton teens

[Anonymous]

He wasn’t actually charged with a crime in connection with injuring the survivor.

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Anonymous wrote:There has to be some sort of liability on the parents when they knowingly allowed an unauthorized driver. He only has a permit to drive the car. Sorry but these parents are criminals as well.

He claimed during his sentencing statement that his parents did not know he took the car. I believe this eliminates their exposure and I'm sure Greenspun advised him to make this statement under oath for that purpose.

It does not. The car has to be registered in the name of someone with insurance. That can’t be Shahid since he didn’t have a license. His parents will be party to the civil lawsuit.

At 18, he could have had his own car insurance in his own name, since he had a license with restrictions. Or it could have been his parent's car insurance.

You can’t get car insurance without a drivers license.

Whether a learner's permit is a permit or a license, you can get car insurance with it. Actually, you must have car insurance with a learner's permit if you drive a vehicle (or pay the uninsured motorist fee).

https://www.progressive.com/answers/teen-drivers-learners-permit-insurance/

this is not true in insurance. you add once the teen gets their license.

[Anonymous]

not true in Virginia^^ (not insurance)

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Anonymous wrote:So does he stay in Jail from now on? 4 years sentence?

That’s long enough for prison, not jail.

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Anonymous wrote:I would like to know if the surviving victim and the parents satisfied or insulted

This is a typical NOVA misogyny - they are sending a message that a girl's life is not important.
I am wondering if it was the opposite: if an 18-year-old girl was in the car and teenage boys were killed, what would the sentence be?

Or if the girls were white.

+1. This is ridiculously low for someone who killed two girls and showed no remorse.

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Anonymous wrote:not true in Virginia^^ (not insurance)

Also not true in Maryland.

Licensed drivers must have insurance. Learners permits fall under parent/guardian insurance.

[Anonymous]

I'm outraged by the ridiculously low jail time. It sends the wrong message. He can start his life again at 24. The girls are dead forever.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm outraged by the ridiculously low jail time. It sends the wrong message. He can start his life again at 24. The girls are dead forever.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:I'm outraged by the ridiculously low jail time. It sends the wrong message. He can start his life again at 24. The girls are dead forever.

It could be less: "A jury recommended a total of four years in prison.... the judge will make the final sentencing decision...and has the power to lessen the sentence, but not increase it.."
This is ridiculous.

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So does he stay in jail now?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm outraged by the ridiculously low jail time. It sends the wrong message. He can start his life again at 24. The girls are dead forever.

He won't even serve the full 4 years. He gets 2 days credit for each day served while in county jail which will likely be one year until Dept of Corrections picks him up.

His actual sentencing is in July so he'll have 6 months credit for serving 3 in jail until then at least. This whole sentence is a joke!

His family members were asking his lawyer if he can still attend his college courses while in jail... Ummm really???

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Anonymous wrote:So does he stay in jail now?

Yes, he remained in custody.

[Anonymous]

They will probably move him in September or so if it's 4 years. It is what it is. You can't bring back the dead. Hopefully 3 years will deter other drivers who think they are above the law. That's all we can do for the future.

[Anonymous]

Meant to say hopefully 4 years or whatever length of time is given.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm outraged by the ridiculously low jail time. It sends the wrong message. He can start his life again at 24. The girls are dead forever.

He won't even serve the full 4 years. He gets 2 days credit for each day served while in county jail which will likely be one year until Dept of Corrections picks him up.

His actual sentencing is in July so he'll have 6 months credit for serving 3 in jail until then at least. This whole sentence is a joke!

His family members were asking his lawyer if he can still attend his college courses while in jail... Ummm really???

Too bad they can’t throw his family in jail with him.