Soi.....Who is pulling out?

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Anonymous wrote:I just really want to understand the risk of Long Covid to a kid who gets regular, mild Covid. My (limited) research has not found me answers.

Yes, that is exactly the question that the most cautious parents would like answered before we drop our kids off for mandatory in-person school in five weeks.
Between 0.5 and 25%. Not even bothering with links to studies, because the range is so ridiculously broad so far.
Weirdly, we (I) keep saying/thinking "data from the UK will tell us soon," but we might actually fully caught up with them because we are slightly less vaccinated and we test a lot less.

So, what would you like come fall? A fully remote option, hybrid for everyone? We aren't going to have a vaccine nor evidence on long covid given kids are often not symptomatic at all and we would have to wait a year or more to know if that lasts or something comes up.

I'm the first PP. I want full-time school with masks and other reasonable precautions (like open the windows!).

NP but I really think open windows will be important. I know HVAC systems are good but I feel like opening all windows possible for as long as possible can be really effective. Throw in some fans for good measure! Keep that air circulating and keep getting fresh air into the rooms!

Agree. I also don’t understand why they can’t get one of those hepa filter machines that some doctors offices use for every classroom, instead of wasting money on devices for ineffective virtual instruction.

Wasn’t there recently a study on how garbage those were for COVID prevention?

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Anonymous wrote:I just really want to understand the risk of Long Covid to a kid who gets regular, mild Covid. My (limited) research has not found me answers.

Yes, that is exactly the question that the most cautious parents would like answered before we drop our kids off for mandatory in-person school in five weeks.
Between 0.5 and 25%. Not even bothering with links to studies, because the range is so ridiculously broad so far.
Weirdly, we (I) keep saying/thinking "data from the UK will tell us soon," but we might actually fully caught up with them because we are slightly less vaccinated and we test a lot less.

So, what would you like come fall? A fully remote option, hybrid for everyone? We aren't going to have a vaccine nor evidence on long covid given kids are often not symptomatic at all and we would have to wait a year or more to know if that lasts or something comes up.

I'm the first PP. I want full-time school with masks and other reasonable precautions (like open the windows!).

NP but I really think open windows will be important. I know HVAC systems are good but I feel like opening all windows possible for as long as possible can be really effective. Throw in some fans for good measure! Keep that air circulating and keep getting fresh air into the rooms!

Agree. I also don’t understand why they can’t get one of those hepa filter machines that some doctors offices use for every classroom, instead of wasting money on devices for ineffective virtual instruction.

Wasn’t there recently a study on how garbage those were for COVID prevention?

I thought there were some that were fraudulent, but not all? Didn’t Joseph Allen recommend the technology in an article?

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Anonymous wrote:I just really want to understand the risk of Long Covid to a kid who gets regular, mild Covid. My (limited) research has not found me answers.

Yes, that is exactly the question that the most cautious parents would like answered before we drop our kids off for mandatory in-person school in five weeks.
Between 0.5 and 25%. Not even bothering with links to studies, because the range is so ridiculously broad so far.
Weirdly, we (I) keep saying/thinking "data from the UK will tell us soon," but we might actually fully caught up with them because we are slightly less vaccinated and we test a lot less.

So, what would you like come fall? A fully remote option, hybrid for everyone? We aren't going to have a vaccine nor evidence on long covid given kids are often not symptomatic at all and we would have to wait a year or more to know if that lasts or something comes up.

I'm the first PP. I want full-time school with masks and other reasonable precautions (like open the windows!).

Agree 100%. Open schools with all the safety precautions. Will I pull my kids out if I don't get this, probably not.

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Anonymous wrote:Delta variant poster: You really, really should homeschool your kids or try to get into the online academy, or do Friendship. You can't control everyone else, and everyone else is making different risk assessments from you. It seems you want to close schools again, and the risks to that are noted by everyone to be higher than the risks of covid in kids.

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I've seen you call someone else a 'delta variant poster' and try to send them off to a therapist or another forum. You have serious denial issues and related problematic bullying instincts.

I mean, that's not me. I don't believe in suggesting therapy across the internet, as I'm not a therapist. It just seems that you appear to be very worried about delta. Additionally, you seem to want a lot of people to do things that they aren't going to do. Suggesting that you make choices accordingly is not bullying you, nor it is denying delta.

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Right. "Get a therapist" is kind of trolly; but it's also true that there are people with anxiety disorders who should not be driving covid public policy. And I say this as a person with an anxiety disorder who made mistakes being too conservative, to the detriment of my child.

But here you are bickering about whether I 'seem to be very worried about delta' and that 'people with anxiety disorders [shouldn't] be driving covid public policy."
Meanwhile the people who do drive public policy are sounding the alarm on delta in the harshest terms yet, and you just pull a graph here and there and... pretend this is about anxious moms?

CDC's Walensky:
The delta variant is more aggressive and much more transmissible than previously circulating strains. It is one of the most infectious respiratory viruses we know of and that I've seen in my 20 year career.

Former FDA Commissioner Gottlieb:
“This virus is so contagious, this variant is so contagious ... that most people will either get vaccinated or have been previously infected or they will get this delta variant”

Not a word about kid delta covid, because we're not sure, or about kid delta long-covid because we have no idea.
What we do know is that kids must must must all be back in school buildings all of them all of the time because, but there isn't anything in place to make it possible or safe, beyond masks, of unspecified quality. That's it.

So to your "you seem quite anxious about delta!" all one can answer is "yeah, and you really don't!"

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Anonymous wrote:Delta variant poster: You really, really should homeschool your kids or try to get into the online academy, or do Friendship. You can't control everyone else, and everyone else is making different risk assessments from you. It seems you want to close schools again, and the risks to that are noted by everyone to be higher than the risks of covid in kids.

+1

I've seen you call someone else a 'delta variant poster' and try to send them off to a therapist or another forum. You have serious denial issues and related problematic bullying instincts.

I mean, that's not me. I don't believe in suggesting therapy across the internet, as I'm not a therapist. It just seems that you appear to be very worried about delta. Additionally, you seem to want a lot of people to do things that they aren't going to do. Suggesting that you make choices accordingly is not bullying you, nor it is denying delta.

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Right. "Get a therapist" is kind of trolly; but it's also true that there are people with anxiety disorders who should not be driving covid public policy. And I say this as a person with an anxiety disorder who made mistakes being too conservative, to the detriment of my child.

But here you are bickering about whether I 'seem to be very worried about delta' and that 'people with anxiety disorders [shouldn't] be driving covid public policy."
Meanwhile the people who do drive public policy are sounding the alarm on delta in the harshest terms yet, and you just pull a graph here and there and... pretend this is about anxious moms?

CDC's Walensky:
The delta variant is more aggressive and much more transmissible than previously circulating strains. It is one of the most infectious respiratory viruses we know of and that I've seen in my 20 year career.

Former FDA Commissioner Gottlieb:
“This virus is so contagious, this variant is so contagious ... that most people will either get vaccinated or have been previously infected or they will get this delta variant”

Not a word about kid delta covid, because we're not sure, or about kid delta long-covid because we have no idea.
What we do know is that kids must must must all be back in school buildings all of them all of the time because, but there isn't anything in place to make it possible or safe, beyond masks, of unspecified quality. That's it.

So to your "you seem quite anxious about delta!" all one can answer is "yeah, and you really don't!"

NP. You are right, this is the only thing we know for sure.

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There are plenty of articles about delta and kids (to respond to “not one word about delta and kids”), and an overview article has been posted and discussed in this thread.

Why are you ignoring experts?

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Another thing to consider is that school starts in 5 weeks. The way delta is spreading, I can't even imagine what it might look like. My kids are ready to go back to school.

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Anonymous wrote:I just really want to understand the risk of Long Covid to a kid who gets regular, mild Covid. My (limited) research has not found me answers.

Yes, that is exactly the question that the most cautious parents would like answered before we drop our kids off for mandatory in-person school in five weeks.
Between 0.5 and 25%. Not even bothering with links to studies, because the range is so ridiculously broad so far.
Weirdly, we (I) keep saying/thinking "data from the UK will tell us soon," but we might actually fully caught up with them because we are slightly less vaccinated and we test a lot less.

So, what would you like come fall? A fully remote option, hybrid for everyone? We aren't going to have a vaccine nor evidence on long covid given kids are often not symptomatic at all and we would have to wait a year or more to know if that lasts or something comes up.

I'm the first PP. I want full-time school with masks and other reasonable precautions (like open the windows!).

NP but I really think open windows will be important. I know HVAC systems are good but I feel like opening all windows possible for as long as possible can be really effective. Throw in some fans for good measure! Keep that air circulating and keep getting fresh air into the rooms!

Agree. I also don’t understand why they can’t get one of those hepa filter machines that some doctors offices use for every classroom, instead of wasting money on devices for ineffective virtual instruction.

Wasn’t there recently a study on how garbage those were for COVID prevention?

I thought there were some that were fraudulent, but not all? Didn’t Joseph Allen recommend the technology in an article?

Knowing DCPS they probably purchased the faulty ones . . . But that’s why the windows being open is an old fashioned solution. And a bunch of box fans if push comes to shove.

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Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of articles about delta and kids (to respond to “not one word about delta and kids”), and an overview article has been posted and discussed in this thread.

Why are you ignoring experts?

There was no specific word about kids delta covid or kids delta long-covid in the two alarmed statements linked.

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Anonymous wrote:Another thing to consider is that school starts in 5 weeks. The way delta is spreading, I can't even imagine what it might look like. My kids are ready to go back to school.

I don't see in person happening in elementary with a virus that is 1000 more contagious and so many unvaccinated folks in DC who will aid the spread. Also, DC did so very little to improve physical.plants. I think we are all looking at 2022 once those who will (get vaccinated), do.

How, with the Delta spreading, will it be possible to stop it at the elementary school gates in 5 weeks? Do you think the spring measures were enough? If so , why? If not, what will be different?

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Anonymous wrote:Another thing to consider is that school starts in 5 weeks. The way delta is spreading, I can't even imagine what it might look like. My kids are ready to go back to school.

I don't see in person happening in elementary with a virus that is 1000 more contagious and so many unvaccinated folks in DC who will aid the spread. Also, DC did so very little to improve physical.plants. I think we are all looking at 2022 once those who will (get vaccinated), do.

How, with the Delta spreading, will it be possible to stop it at the elementary school gates in 5 weeks? Do you think the spring measures were enough? If so , why? If not, what will be different?

OMG I hope you are wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:I just really want to understand the risk of Long Covid to a kid who gets regular, mild Covid. My (limited) research has not found me answers.

there is research, and it finds that “long covid” isn’t really a concern for kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Delta variant poster: You really, really should homeschool your kids or try to get into the online academy, or do Friendship. You can't control everyone else, and everyone else is making different risk assessments from you. It seems you want to close schools again, and the risks to that are noted by everyone to be higher than the risks of covid in kids.

+1

I've seen you call someone else a 'delta variant poster' and try to send them off to a therapist or another forum. You have serious denial issues and related problematic bullying instincts.

I mean, that's not me. I don't believe in suggesting therapy across the internet, as I'm not a therapist. It just seems that you appear to be very worried about delta. Additionally, you seem to want a lot of people to do things that they aren't going to do. Suggesting that you make choices accordingly is not bullying you, nor it is denying delta.

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Right. "Get a therapist" is kind of trolly; but it's also true that there are people with anxiety disorders who should not be driving covid public policy. And I say this as a person with an anxiety disorder who made mistakes being too conservative, to the detriment of my child.

But here you are bickering about whether I 'seem to be very worried about delta' and that 'people with anxiety disorders [shouldn't] be driving covid public policy."
Meanwhile the people who do drive public policy are sounding the alarm on delta in the harshest terms yet, and you just pull a graph here and there and... pretend this is about anxious moms?

CDC's Walensky:
The delta variant is more aggressive and much more transmissible than previously circulating strains. It is one of the most infectious respiratory viruses we know of and that I've seen in my 20 year career.

Former FDA Commissioner Gottlieb:
“This virus is so contagious, this variant is so contagious ... that most people will either get vaccinated or have been previously infected or they will get this delta variant”

Not a word about kid delta covid, because we're not sure, or about kid delta long-covid because we have no idea.
What we do know is that kids must must must all be back in school buildings all of them all of the time because, but there isn't anything in place to make it possible or safe, beyond masks, of unspecified quality. That's it.

So to your "you seem quite anxious about delta!" all one can answer is "yeah, and you really don't!"

Is your child a 90 year old grandmother? Is your child an obese unvaccinated 50 year old man? If the answer is no, your child is at very low risk from Delta. Congrats!

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Anonymous wrote:Another thing to consider is that school starts in 5 weeks. The way delta is spreading, I can't even imagine what it might look like. My kids are ready to go back to school.

I don't see in person happening in elementary with a virus that is 1000 more contagious and so many unvaccinated folks in DC who will aid the spread. Also, DC did so very little to improve physical.plants. I think we are all looking at 2022 once those who will (get vaccinated), do.

How, with the Delta spreading, will it be possible to stop it at the elementary school gates in 5 weeks? Do you think the spring measures were enough? If so , why? If not, what will be different?

Adults who want to be are vaccinated. Kids are extremely low risk. I’m honestly trying to understand the hysteria here, and failing.

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Op, absolutely no one Is leaving. Teachers love to threaten to quit and so do nice white patents. But neither group actually does