Soi.....Who is pulling out?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I am increasingly convinced that schools are going to open as normal, we will see what happens, but even if, gd forbid, kids do start to get sick, things will stay open

I know maybe you didn't mean it this way, but this was incredibly soothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I am increasingly convinced that schools are going to open as normal, we will see what happens, but even if, gd forbid, kids do start to get sick, things will stay open

I know maybe you didn't mean it this way, but this was incredibly soothing.

I'm so glad it was soothing to you (/s). My point, since you obviously missed it, is that if things get worse, black and brown kids will be getting sick and, gd forbid, dying, with the city changing little. I'm sure you and your ilk will be totally fine with it as long as schools stay open for your child. You might feel differently if it is, gd forbid, YOUR child or the child of one of your friends who dies. Maybe none of that will happen, and that would be WONDERFUL. But for you all to want, apparently, no mitigation strategies and no contingency planning for in case a future variant does have a greater impact on children, is absurd and, frankly, cruel to the people who will have to experience the brunt of your callousness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I am increasingly convinced that schools are going to open as normal, we will see what happens, but even if, gd forbid, kids do start to get sick, things will stay open

I know maybe you didn't mean it this way, but this was incredibly soothing.

I'm so glad it was soothing to you (/s). My point, since you obviously missed it, is that if things get worse, black and brown kids will be getting sick and, gd forbid, dying, with the city changing little. I'm sure you and your ilk will be totally fine with it as long as schools stay open for your child. You might feel differently if it is, gd forbid, YOUR child or the child of one of your friends who dies. Maybe none of that will happen, and that would be WONDERFUL. But for you all to want, apparently, no mitigation strategies and no contingency planning for in case a future variant does have a greater impact on children, is absurd and, frankly, cruel to the people who will have to experience the brunt of your callousness.

I am not either PP, but if all 12+ persons in our city (DC) got vaccinated, how likely would it be that masked and post travel quarantining elementary kids would catch Covid? The fact is, black and brown people (whose vaccination rates in DC are shockingly low) have a role to play in preventing not only their own children but all city children getting sick.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I am increasingly convinced that schools are going to open as normal, we will see what happens, but even if, gd forbid, kids do start to get sick, things will stay open

I know maybe you didn't mean it this way, but this was incredibly soothing.

I'm so glad it was soothing to you (/s). My point, since you obviously missed it, is that if things get worse, black and brown kids will be getting sick and, gd forbid, dying, with the city changing little. I'm sure you and your ilk will be totally fine with it as long as schools stay open for your child. You might feel differently if it is, gd forbid, YOUR child or the child of one of your friends who dies. Maybe none of that will happen, and that would be WONDERFUL. But for you all to want, apparently, no mitigation strategies and no contingency planning for in case a future variant does have a greater impact on children, is absurd and, frankly, cruel to the people who will have to experience the brunt of your callousness.

NP and I don’t mean to sound callous but if a future variant is more dangerous for children won’t schools just shut down again? I can imagine if a variant that has the affect of children that COVID had on the elderly that parents would still send their kids to school. That would be the strategy. But that is not true right now, so kids need to be in school.

[Anonymous]

** I can’t imagine

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I am increasingly convinced that schools are going to open as normal, we will see what happens, but even if, gd forbid, kids do start to get sick, things will stay open

I know maybe you didn't mean it this way, but this was incredibly soothing.

I'm so glad it was soothing to you (/s). My point, since you obviously missed it, is that if things get worse, black and brown kids will be getting sick and, gd forbid, dying, with the city changing little. I'm sure you and your ilk will be totally fine with it as long as schools stay open for your child. You might feel differently if it is, gd forbid, YOUR child or the child of one of your friends who dies. Maybe none of that will happen, and that would be WONDERFUL. But for you all to want, apparently, no mitigation strategies and no contingency planning for in case a future variant does have a greater impact on children, is absurd and, frankly, cruel to the people who will have to experience the brunt of your callousness.

So, no children have died in DC from covid, and the delta variant isn't being shown to be more of a mortality risk to children than the prior variants. So, so far data doesn't suggest that any kids will die. We can't operate in the "what if" land of school closures due to delta concerns, as that world actually does greater harms to the exact kids that you are concerned about than those of 'my ilk'.

If my child gets sick -- and trust that I think about this a lot -- they are likely to have cold-like symptoms that go away in three days. Since everyone is saying that delta is going to infect all of the unvaccinated, I guess that's going to happen with or without school. I'd rather have my kid have school and covid than have NO school and covid.

But I do think that DCPS needs to learn from the rest of the country and many other countries on how to stay open, and my hope is that they will do so this year.

I also never said anything about no mitigation or contingency plans. That's a beef you should take up with someone else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I am increasingly convinced that schools are going to open as normal, we will see what happens, but even if, gd forbid, kids do start to get sick, things will stay open

I know maybe you didn't mean it this way, but this was incredibly soothing.

I'm so glad it was soothing to you (/s). My point, since you obviously missed it, is that if things get worse, black and brown kids will be getting sick and, gd forbid, dying, with the city changing little. I'm sure you and your ilk will be totally fine with it as long as schools stay open for your child. You might feel differently if it is, gd forbid, YOUR child or the child of one of your friends who dies. Maybe none of that will happen, and that would be WONDERFUL. But for you all to want, apparently, no mitigation strategies and no contingency planning for in case a future variant does have a greater impact on children, is absurd and, frankly, cruel to the people who will have to experience the brunt of your callousness.

I am not either PP, but if all 12+ persons in our city (DC) got vaccinated, how likely would it be that masked and post travel quarantining elementary kids would catch Covid? The fact is, black and brown people (whose vaccination rates in DC are shockingly low) have a role to play in preventing not only their own children but all city children getting sick.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I am increasingly convinced that schools are going to open as normal, we will see what happens, but even if, gd forbid, kids do start to get sick, things will stay open

I know maybe you didn't mean it this way, but this was incredibly soothing.

I'm so glad it was soothing to you (/s). My point, since you obviously missed it, is that if things get worse, black and brown kids will be getting sick and, gd forbid, dying, with the city changing little. I'm sure you and your ilk will be totally fine with it as long as schools stay open for your child. You might feel differently if it is, gd forbid, YOUR child or the child of one of your friends who dies. Maybe none of that will happen, and that would be WONDERFUL. But for you all to want, apparently, no mitigation strategies and no contingency planning for in case a future variant does have a greater impact on children, is absurd and, frankly, cruel to the people who will have to experience the brunt of your callousness.

So, no children have died in DC from covid, and the delta variant isn't being shown to be more of a mortality risk to children than the prior variants. So, so far data doesn't suggest that any kids will die. We can't operate in the "what if" land of school closures due to delta concerns, as that world actually does greater harms to the exact kids that you are concerned about than those of 'my ilk'.

If my child gets sick -- and trust that I think about this a lot -- they are likely to have cold-like symptoms that go away in three days. Since everyone is saying that delta is going to infect all of the unvaccinated, I guess that's going to happen with or without school. I'd rather have my kid have school and covid than have NO school and covid.

But I do think that DCPS needs to learn from the rest of the country and many other countries on how to stay open, and my hope is that they will do so this year.

I also never said anything about no mitigation or contingency plans. That's a beef you should take up with someone else.

Contingency planning is, by definition, planning for what it's. So if school closures and quarantines are not permissible what ifs, then by definition that is a lot of contingency planning that you are throwing out right from the start.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I am increasingly convinced that schools are going to open as normal, we will see what happens, but even if, gd forbid, kids do start to get sick, things will stay open

I know maybe you didn't mean it this way, but this was incredibly soothing.

I'm so glad it was soothing to you (/s). My point, since you obviously missed it, is that if things get worse, black and brown kids will be getting sick and, gd forbid, dying, with the city changing little. I'm sure you and your ilk will be totally fine with it as long as schools stay open for your child. You might feel differently if it is, gd forbid, YOUR child or the child of one of your friends who dies. Maybe none of that will happen, and that would be WONDERFUL. But for you all to want, apparently, no mitigation strategies and no contingency planning for in case a future variant does have a greater impact on children, is absurd and, frankly, cruel to the people who will have to experience the brunt of your callousness.

So, no children have died in DC from covid, and the delta variant isn't being shown to be more of a mortality risk to children than the prior variants. So, so far data doesn't suggest that any kids will die. We can't operate in the "what if" land of school closures due to delta concerns, as that world actually does greater harms to the exact kids that you are concerned about than those of 'my ilk'.

If my child gets sick -- and trust that I think about this a lot -- they are likely to have cold-like symptoms that go away in three days. Since everyone is saying that delta is going to infect all of the unvaccinated, I guess that's going to happen with or without school. I'd rather have my kid have school and covid than have NO school and covid.

But I do think that DCPS needs to learn from the rest of the country and many other countries on how to stay open, and my hope is that they will do so this year.

I also never said anything about no mitigation or contingency plans. That's a beef you should take up with someone else.

Contingency planning is, by definition, planning for what it's. So if school closures and quarantines are not permissible what ifs, then by definition that is a lot of contingency planning that you are throwing out right from the start.

Or the middle, depending on how you want to phrase it.

Also, I am well aware of the impact that school closures have on the students I teach east of the river. Schools need to be open, but there also need to be plans and protocols in place for if things get worse. Because it will not be ok with me to have the mayor declaring everything is fine, because NW schools are doing well, while my students watch their parent and grandparents die.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I am increasingly convinced that schools are going to open as normal, we will see what happens, but even if, gd forbid, kids do start to get sick, things will stay open

I know maybe you didn't mean it this way, but this was incredibly soothing.

I'm so glad it was soothing to you (/s). My point, since you obviously missed it, is that if things get worse, black and brown kids will be getting sick and, gd forbid, dying, with the city changing little. I'm sure you and your ilk will be totally fine with it as long as schools stay open for your child. You might feel differently if it is, gd forbid, YOUR child or the child of one of your friends who dies. Maybe none of that will happen, and that would be WONDERFUL. But for you all to want, apparently, no mitigation strategies and no contingency planning for in case a future variant does have a greater impact on children, is absurd and, frankly, cruel to the people who will have to experience the brunt of your callousness.

So, no children have died in DC from covid, and the delta variant isn't being shown to be more of a mortality risk to children than the prior variants. So, so far data doesn't suggest that any kids will die. We can't operate in the "what if" land of school closures due to delta concerns, as that world actually does greater harms to the exact kids that you are concerned about than those of 'my ilk'.

If my child gets sick -- and trust that I think about this a lot -- they are likely to have cold-like symptoms that go away in three days. Since everyone is saying that delta is going to infect all of the unvaccinated, I guess that's going to happen with or without school. I'd rather have my kid have school and covid than have NO school and covid.

But I do think that DCPS needs to learn from the rest of the country and many other countries on how to stay open, and my hope is that they will do so this year.

I also never said anything about no mitigation or contingency plans. That's a beef you should take up with someone else.

Contingency planning is, by definition, planning for what it's. So if school closures and quarantines are not permissible what ifs, then by definition that is a lot of contingency planning that you are throwing out right from the start.

Or the middle, depending on how you want to phrase it.

Also, I am well aware of the impact that school closures have on the students I teach east of the river. Schools need to be open, but there also need to be plans and protocols in place for if things get worse. Because it will not be ok with me to have the mayor declaring everything is fine, because NW schools are doing well, while my students watch their parent and grandparents die.

My point is that I didn't make any statements about mitigation measures or contingency planning. so to say that I oppose them is incorrect.

[Anonymous]

Or perhaps a clarification: Keeping schools closed because we are worried about an impact on kids that has not yet happened is the "what if" land that's problematic.

Planning for other events that have non-miniscule probability is of course something that should be done.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I am increasingly convinced that schools are going to open as normal, we will see what happens, but even if, gd forbid, kids do start to get sick, things will stay open

I know maybe you didn't mean it this way, but this was incredibly soothing.

I'm so glad it was soothing to you (/s). My point, since you obviously missed it, is that if things get worse, black and brown kids will be getting sick and, gd forbid, dying, with the city changing little. I'm sure you and your ilk will be totally fine with it as long as schools stay open for your child. You might feel differently if it is, gd forbid, YOUR child or the child of one of your friends who dies. Maybe none of that will happen, and that would be WONDERFUL. But for you all to want, apparently, no mitigation strategies and no contingency planning for in case a future variant does have a greater impact on children, is absurd and, frankly, cruel to the people who will have to experience the brunt of your callousness.

I am not either PP, but if all 12+ persons in our city (DC) got vaccinated, how likely would it be that masked and post travel quarantining elementary kids would catch Covid? The fact is, black and brown people (whose vaccination rates in DC are shockingly low) have a role to play in preventing not only their own children but all city children getting sick.

+1

+2

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I am increasingly convinced that schools are going to open as normal, we will see what happens, but even if, gd forbid, kids do start to get sick, things will stay open

I know maybe you didn't mean it this way, but this was incredibly soothing.

I'm so glad it was soothing to you (/s). My point, since you obviously missed it, is that if things get worse, black and brown kids will be getting sick and, gd forbid, dying, with the city changing little. I'm sure you and your ilk will be totally fine with it as long as schools stay open for your child. You might feel differently if it is, gd forbid, YOUR child or the child of one of your friends who dies. Maybe none of that will happen, and that would be WONDERFUL. But for you all to want, apparently, no mitigation strategies and no contingency planning for in case a future variant does have a greater impact on children, is absurd and, frankly, cruel to the people who will have to experience the brunt of your callousness.

So, no children have died in DC from covid, and the delta variant isn't being shown to be more of a mortality risk to children than the prior variants. So, so far data doesn't suggest that any kids will die. We can't operate in the "what if" land of school closures due to delta concerns, as that world actually does greater harms to the exact kids that you are concerned about than those of 'my ilk'.

If my child gets sick -- and trust that I think about this a lot -- they are likely to have cold-like symptoms that go away in three days. Since everyone is saying that delta is going to infect all of the unvaccinated, I guess that's going to happen with or without school. I'd rather have my kid have school and covid than have NO school and covid.

But I do think that DCPS needs to learn from the rest of the country and many other countries on how to stay open, and my hope is that they will do so this year.

I also never said anything about no mitigation or contingency plans. That's a beef you should take up with someone else.

Contingency planning is, by definition, planning for what it's. So if school closures and quarantines are not permissible what ifs, then by definition that is a lot of contingency planning that you are throwing out right from the start.

Or the middle, depending on how you want to phrase it.

Also, I am well aware of the impact that school closures have on the students I teach east of the river. Schools need to be open, but there also need to be plans and protocols in place for if things get worse. Because it will not be ok with me to have the mayor declaring everything is fine, because NW schools are doing well, while my students watch their parent and grandparents die.

Since the "parents and grandparents" have had months to avail themselves of a free and safe vaccine (and the mayor has placed most of the sites to get the shot EOTR), anyone who dies is likely unvaccinated. That's horrible, of course, but the DC parents who have been responsible enough to get themselves and their 12+ kids vaccinated shouldn't be punished with school closures b/c others won't get vaccinated. Our kids' education shouldn't be compromised b/c unvaccinated people want to be "protected." They should get the shot or they should homeschool. Stop screwing this city's kids by demanding that your irrational fears be catered to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I am increasingly convinced that schools are going to open as normal, we will see what happens, but even if, gd forbid, kids do start to get sick, things will stay open

I know maybe you didn't mean it this way, but this was incredibly soothing.

I'm so glad it was soothing to you (/s). My point, since you obviously missed it, is that if things get worse, black and brown kids will be getting sick and, gd forbid, dying, with the city changing little. I'm sure you and your ilk will be totally fine with it as long as schools stay open for your child. You might feel differently if it is, gd forbid, YOUR child or the child of one of your friends who dies. Maybe none of that will happen, and that would be WONDERFUL. But for you all to want, apparently, no mitigation strategies and no contingency planning for in case a future variant does have a greater impact on children, is absurd and, frankly, cruel to the people who will have to experience the brunt of your callousness.

I am not either PP, but if all 12+ persons in our city (DC) got vaccinated, how likely would it be that masked and post travel quarantining elementary kids would catch Covid? The fact is, black and brown people (whose vaccination rates in DC are shockingly low) have a role to play in preventing not only their own children but all city children getting sick.

+1

+2

Exactly. Those of us who have gotten vaccinated can and should be arguing that the "black and brown" families refusing vaccination aren't just threatening their own lives, but actively undermining the health of everyone in this city by encouraging the development of further variants (to say nothing of the economic damage of forcing further lockdowns and closures b/c they are getting COVID). I don't care one bit if that's not PC to say. From a public health perspective, they are just as much of a danger to others and morally reprehensible as the MAGA anti-vaxxers doing the same thing down south.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I am increasingly convinced that schools are going to open as normal, we will see what happens, but even if, gd forbid, kids do start to get sick, things will stay open

I know maybe you didn't mean it this way, but this was incredibly soothing.

I'm so glad it was soothing to you (/s). My point, since you obviously missed it, is that if things get worse, black and brown kids will be getting sick and, gd forbid, dying, with the city changing little. I'm sure you and your ilk will be totally fine with it as long as schools stay open for your child. You might feel differently if it is, gd forbid, YOUR child or the child of one of your friends who dies. Maybe none of that will happen, and that would be WONDERFUL. But for you all to want, apparently, no mitigation strategies and no contingency planning for in case a future variant does have a greater impact on children, is absurd and, frankly, cruel to the people who will have to experience the brunt of your callousness.

I am not either PP, but if all 12+ persons in our city (DC) got vaccinated, how likely would it be that masked and post travel quarantining elementary kids would catch Covid? The fact is, black and brown people (whose vaccination rates in DC are shockingly low) have a role to play in preventing not only their own children but all city children getting sick.

+1

+2

Exactly. Those of us who have gotten vaccinated can and should be arguing that the "black and brown" families refusing vaccination aren't just threatening their own lives, but actively undermining the health of everyone in this city by encouraging the development of further variants (to say nothing of the economic damage of forcing further lockdowns and closures b/c they are getting COVID). I don't care one bit if that's not PC to say. From a public health perspective, they are just as much of a danger to others and morally reprehensible as the MAGA anti-vaxxers doing the same thing down south.

Keep blaming. But while you are at it, I recommend you look earlier in this thread, for the challenges people east of the river have with getting to the place with the vaccine and the efforts made to support them. But that's too inconvenient for you to care about, I'm sure.