Kiss-ass parents

Anonymous
We have a TM of the 2nd team an age group higher than ours. I feel bad her kid will never move up to the 1st team because she would lose all sense of power being a normal parent.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is it normal for the manager her husband and other child to sit on the bench with the coach and reserves for games?


No, the coach should politely request that they leave and join the other parents.


My son's U16 Coach has had to tell the one over-bearing dad to beat it and get off of his sideline frequently. I was watching a tournament game via Zoom this Fall and caught some of that on film. It was priceless . I asked my son about it and he said this Dad drives the Coach nuts. That he is always telling him to get lost. Somehow, this dad has convinced the managers/ TD/head of Club his son is good and bad mouths are Coach and offers constant complaints about him. He has been practicing with the Academy team---though the rest of us are convinced our Coach just wanted to get rid of the Dad. LMAOF


Well ---good. Let those guys deal with him. Though I find some of them have a narcissistic God complex and love this kind of kissing up.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:We have the worst at our club by far. Wife and husband who think their kid is the greatest but cant move up from the B team. Wife is the TM spends entire practice time out on the field moving from coach to coach kissing ass. Never talks to team parents always sit across field on the team bench like they're more important. The kid sucks has been with the club since Under 9 and cant sniff the A team. Always complains he is hurt and playing thru injury to hide his lack of skills. Myself and the other mothers just shake our heads and laugh. All of the other TMs just roll their eyes anytime her name is ever brought up. We have been witness to this show since Under 9 We have been with the A team since under 11 and have watched the same antics every year. Thank god our A team TM is total opposite and normal.


OMG is this a NOVA team? I think I know the club.


Is it a smaller club in NOVA?


B-I-N-G-O
Anonymous
I can't imagine volunteering to help coach. I had to warm my son's team up doing rondos when the coach was running late, and some of the 13 year old kids were such a PITA - refusing to take their turn in the middle, complaining that things were unfair. No amount of "favor" curried would be enough to warrant it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I can't imagine volunteering to help coach. I had to warm my son's team up doing rondos when the coach was running late, and some of the 13 year old kids were such a PITA - refusing to take their turn in the middle, complaining that things were unfair. No amount of "favor" curried would be enough to warrant it.


Nice to hear a parent with a little perspective of what coaches often deal with. The no-knucklehead factor my first cut point when thinking about which players to keep for all stars or travel or hope don't show up the next year/don't request me for rec. Second is the knucklehead factor of the parents, meaning coaching from the sidelines, not respecting my/the team's time and space while holding a training session, acting petulantly when there is a poor call or a rough play by the other team etc.. Well, it's more like 1A and 1B. Next is the player attentive when I'm giving instructions and do they try hard. They don't have to be particularly good--that's my job to help them become good/better. They just can't be primadonnas or exhibit signs of being an a-hole.
Anonymous
I also want to add that some kiss-a comes behind the scenes. Like DADS who know the director or who are on the board or who play adult soccer and know people and talk up their kids and host social gatherings. Fundraising.

Cronyism or politicking or even friendship- whatever you want to call it.



OMG. Yes. We have one dad that is constantly bragging about playing soccer with all of the Coaches at the Club. Frankly, as a woman, I could beat him 1v1 any day of the week and played at a much higher level and in middle age I am in much better shape than him .

There is a TON of *ss-kissing that goes on in those leagues with parent players. However, I have yet to see it translated to their kids advancing--at least in the older age groups.


I'm glad to hear it doesn't translate to anything in the older age groups.
Anonymous
What about kiss-ass players?

We have few that really feed our coach's ego.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I also want to add that some kiss-a comes behind the scenes. Like DADS who know the director or who are on the board or who play adult soccer and know people and talk up their kids and host social gatherings. Fundraising.

Cronyism or politicking or even friendship- whatever you want to call it.



Oh yeah, see this a lot on my kid's team at MYS. There's a kid on the team who is only on the team because his parent knows the coach outside of the club. Kid is an okay player but would not have made the ECNL team on his own ability. This parent has recommended players to the coach and the coach is now trying to bring them on to the VA Union team. Again, parents should have no involvement in team activities at all as it influences coaching decisions and is unfair.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I also want to add that some kiss-a comes behind the scenes. Like DADS who know the director or who are on the board or who play adult soccer and know people and talk up their kids and host social gatherings. Fundraising.

Cronyism or politicking or even friendship- whatever you want to call it.



Oh yeah, see this a lot on my kid's team at MYS. There's a kid on the team who is only on the team because his parent knows the coach outside of the club. Kid is an okay player but would not have made the ECNL team on his own ability. This parent has recommended players to the coach and the coach is now trying to bring them on to the VA Union team. Again, parents should have no involvement in team activities at all as it influences coaching decisions and is unfair.


Clubs aren't regulated in anyway and don't really stress ethics so they can pretty much do what they want. So basically you just have to bendover and take it.
Anonymous
You guys I finally gave a nice thanks to a coach and now wondering if it seems I was trying to "curry favor" when I was really just being thankful (there was no gift card it was just an appreciation note). I also like to practice juggle not to show off but because I am learning and its fun. I'm going to feel so awkward now, please just assume people don't always have sinister intentions of kissing up or showing off.
Anonymous
How about the parent trying to juggle at halftime in boots or the toe ball shot
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I also want to add that some kiss-a comes behind the scenes. Like DADS who know the director or who are on the board or who play adult soccer and know people and talk up their kids and host social gatherings. Fundraising.

Cronyism or politicking or even friendship- whatever you want to call it.



Oh yeah, see this a lot on my kid's team at MYS. There's a kid on the team who is only on the team because his parent knows the coach outside of the club. Kid is an okay player but would not have made the ECNL team on his own ability. This parent has recommended players to the coach and the coach is now trying to bring them on to the VA Union team. Again, parents should have no involvement in team activities at all as it influences coaching decisions and is unfair.


This is truth. Seen this at MYS first hand as well.
Stay away from MYS if you want quality coaching.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I also want to add that some kiss-a comes behind the scenes. Like DADS who know the director or who are on the board or who play adult soccer and know people and talk up their kids and host social gatherings. Fundraising.

Cronyism or politicking or even friendship- whatever you want to call it.



Oh yeah, see this a lot on my kid's team at MYS. There's a kid on the team who is only on the team because his parent knows the coach outside of the club. Kid is an okay player but would not have made the ECNL team on his own ability. This parent has recommended players to the coach and the coach is now trying to bring them on to the VA Union team. Again, parents should have no involvement in team activities at all as it influences coaching decisions and is unfair.


This is truth. Seen this at MYS first hand as well.
Stay away from MYS if you want quality coaching.


How about a dad helping the coach set up and walking out on the field and chatting him up during tryouts for the new team. The kid is easily the worst kid on the field at this practice tryout but the kid will make it because of the dad bro relationship. Current u13, rising u14
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I also want to add that some kiss-a comes behind the scenes. Like DADS who know the director or who are on the board or who play adult soccer and know people and talk up their kids and host social gatherings. Fundraising.

Cronyism or politicking or even friendship- whatever you want to call it.



Oh yeah, see this a lot on my kid's team at MYS. There's a kid on the team who is only on the team because his parent knows the coach outside of the club. Kid is an okay player but would not have made the ECNL team on his own ability. This parent has recommended players to the coach and the coach is now trying to bring them on to the VA Union team. Again, parents should have no involvement in team activities at all as it influences coaching decisions and is unfair.


This is truth. Seen this at MYS first hand as well.
Stay away from MYS if you want quality coaching.


How about a dad helping the coach set up and walking out on the field and chatting him up during tryouts for the new team. The kid is easily the worst kid on the field at this practice tryout but the kid will make it because of the dad bro relationship. Current u13, rising u14


Not mys. Another big club nearby
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
I also want to add that some kiss-a comes behind the scenes. Like DADS who know the director or who are on the board or who play adult soccer and know people and talk up their kids and host social gatherings. Fundraising.

Cronyism or politicking or even friendship- whatever you want to call it.



OMG. Yes. We have one dad that is constantly bragging about playing soccer with all of the Coaches at the Club. Frankly, as a woman, I could beat him 1v1 any day of the week and played at a much higher level and in middle age I am in much better shape than him .

There is a TON of *ss-kissing that goes on in those leagues with parent players. However, I have yet to see it translated to their kids advancing--at least in the older age groups.


I'm glad to hear it doesn't translate to anything in the older age groups.



It just worked to get a VDA offer on our team.
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