Schools Pushing MEDITATION in public schools

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My 4 year old has learned to sit in lotus pose and take deep, calming breaths. I'll take every second of silence I can get.

Meditation for the win!

You want to science your own child. Amazing!!

You must not have childen Precious.

Well, if you’re trying to get every second of silence that you can get, fell free to get rid of your children. You’ll have silence forever.

[Anonymous]

Sure, OP. As soon as you take out “under god” from the pledge of allegiance and “in god we trust” from all our money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sure, OP. As soon as you take out “under god” from the pledge of allegiance and “in god we trust” from all our money.

That seems like o bother you, so you should take it up.

[Anonymous]

OP, I strongly suggest you reexamine the question. Just because breathing techniques are used in different religions does not mean there is anything inherently religious about it.

I think it's ridiculous not to use the term "meditation" because of religious associations but truly beyond ridiculous to not want the techniques, which have consistently proven beneficial, to be taught in schools.

I would urge you to examine how your likes and dislikes arte clouding your vision here.

[Anonymous]

Bullshit. I’ve been meditating for years and I am actively hostile to organized religion. OP is ignorant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bullshit. I’ve been meditating for years and I am actively hostile to organized religion. OP is ignorant.

You’ve been doing the wrong thing for years then.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Bullshit. I’ve been meditating for years and I am actively hostile to organized religion. OP is ignorant.

You’ve been doing the wrong thing for years then.

OP, have you realized yet that you have an extremely small minority view. I'm not sure why this has gotten your panties in a twist, but you realize that you are the only one arguing this point. I'm glad that you are passionate about something, but you might as well realize that virtually no one agrees with your arguments. You can keep yelling at folks, but just realize that you are not changing people's minds. If it makes you happy to continue to belabor the point, go ahead, but you won't get very much support, at least not here. Maybe you'll find some people in your school system who agree with you, but I would be surprised if you find enough to even get this on the agenda at the local school board, let along actually make a big enough impact for a change.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bullshit. I’ve been meditating for years and I am actively hostile to organized religion. OP is ignorant.

You’ve been doing the wrong thing for years then.

OP, have you realized yet that you have an extremely small minority view. I'm not sure why this has gotten your panties in a twist, but you realize that you are the only one arguing this point. I'm glad that you are passionate about something, but you might as well realize that virtually no one agrees with your arguments. You can keep yelling at folks, but just realize that you are not changing people's minds. If it makes you happy to continue to belabor the point, go ahead, but you won't get very much support, at least not here. Maybe you'll find some people in your school system who agree with you, but I would be surprised if you find enough to even get this on the agenda at the local school board, let along actually make a big enough impact for a change.

Why are you trying to belittle and discourage me?

(Assuming that I am in the minority) Aren’t the points of view of minorities to be respected? That’s why we have minority rights.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bullshit. I’ve been meditating for years and I am actively hostile to organized religion. OP is ignorant.

You’ve been doing the wrong thing for years then.

OP, have you realized yet that you have an extremely small minority view. I'm not sure why this has gotten your panties in a twist, but you realize that you are the only one arguing this point. I'm glad that you are passionate about something, but you might as well realize that virtually no one agrees with your arguments. You can keep yelling at folks, but just realize that you are not changing people's minds. If it makes you happy to continue to belabor the point, go ahead, but you won't get very much support, at least not here. Maybe you'll find some people in your school system who agree with you, but I would be surprised if you find enough to even get this on the agenda at the local school board, let along actually make a big enough impact for a change.

Why are you trying to belittle and discourage me?

(Assuming that I am in the minority) Aren’t the points of view of minorities to be respected? That’s why we have minority rights.

I'm not trying to belittle you. I'm trying to say that your perspective is not common and that most people disagree with you. You can continue, but I was just trying to tell you that you aren't likely to sway many people to agree with you as people don't agree with your assertions that meditation is inherently religious.

Meditation is a practice that is used by many religions, but it itself is not religious. That is the view of the majority and you aren't going to convince enough people to dissuade school systems from using this as a tool to help children, especially children who have been affected by a year of isolation from peers and friends. It's a useful tool that has helped a lot of children and it has it's place in schools.

As I said, you are welcome to your minority view and you are welcome to enforce that your children do not use meditation, but you aren't going to have much luck convincing school systems form using this to help other children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Bullshit. I’ve been meditating for years and I am actively hostile to organized religion. OP is ignorant.

You’ve been doing the wrong thing for years then.

OP, have you realized yet that you have an extremely small minority view. I'm not sure why this has gotten your panties in a twist, but you realize that you are the only one arguing this point. I'm glad that you are passionate about something, but you might as well realize that virtually no one agrees with your arguments. You can keep yelling at folks, but just realize that you are not changing people's minds. If it makes you happy to continue to belabor the point, go ahead, but you won't get very much support, at least not here. Maybe you'll find some people in your school system who agree with you, but I would be surprised if you find enough to even get this on the agenda at the local school board, let along actually make a big enough impact for a change.

Why are you trying to belittle and discourage me?

(Assuming that I am in the minority) Aren’t the points of view of minorities to be respected? That’s why we have minority rights.

I'm not trying to belittle you. I'm trying to say that your perspective is not common and that most people disagree with you. You can continue, but I was just trying to tell you that you aren't likely to sway many people to agree with you as people don't agree with your assertions that meditation is inherently religious.

Meditation is a practice that is used by many religions, but it itself is not religious. That is the view of the majority and you aren't going to convince enough people to dissuade school systems from using this as a tool to help children, especially children who have been affected by a year of isolation from peers and friends. It's a useful tool that has helped a lot of children and it has it's place in schools.

As I said, you are welcome to your minority view and you are welcome to enforce that your children do not use meditation, but you aren't going to have much luck convincing school systems form using this to help other children.

The beauty of America is that minorities are heard. But you may have a point. It seems that there lately there is a global view that if uncool minorities are bullied enough they can be scienced. I guess a big American test is coming. Perhaps meditation will not be important enough to be part of those plans, but hope doesn’t die, even if it sometimes is shy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Meditation is a religious practice. It is being taught in our public schools throughout Virginia under the disguise of benefits.

All religions have benefits. Regardless, the US Supreme Court has ruled that religion doesn’t belong in schools.

Dude, you are confusing meditation with contemplation.

When you pray you contemplate on all things or a thing that is of religious character.
deep reflective thought.
"he would retire to his room for study or contemplation"

When you meditate, it is when you turn off everything and STOP thinking so your mind and
body can center. It is the opposite of the meditation, it is UNPLUGGING and turning off All thinking
so you can be present in the moment that is NOW.

becoming calm and relaxed:

[Anonymous]

PS. that is why church does NOT like Yoga considering it anti religious as attributing it religious character while in reality
it is not because it disconnect from everything including religoius thoughts so chances are you might empty your mind
which often is not a desired religious effect.. as you supposed to conteplate religious connection all the time.

look at it as .. meditation = levitation

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PS. that is why church does NOT like Yoga considering it anti religious as attributing it religious character while in reality
it is not because it disconnect from everything including religoius thoughts so chances are you might empty your mind
which often is not a desired religious effect.. as you supposed to conteplate religious connection all the time.

look at it as .. meditation = levitation

Sure, let’s empty your mind, so we can fill it with something else, because all things empty can’t remain that way for too long: basically open ourselves up for hypnosis.

And who can better fill our minds than the people emptying them. Do you want to give that much power to the public school system, aka government, aka big Corp lobbying? Whose values do you want to take place in your child’s empty head: yours or someone else’s?


https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/06/200615184150.htm

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sure, OP. As soon as you take out “under god” from the pledge of allegiance and “in god we trust” from all our money.

But you are okay with kids school mascot being Devils, Demons and Angels don't you?

Even if they use different skin color to offend people of color? How hypocritical of you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PS. that is why church does NOT like Yoga considering it anti religious as attributing it religious character while in reality
it is not because it disconnect from everything including religoius thoughts so chances are you might empty your mind
which often is not a desired religious effect.. as you supposed to conteplate religious connection all the time.

look at it as .. meditation = levitation

Sure, let’s empty your mind, so we can fill it with something else, because all things empty can’t remain that way for too long: basically open ourselves up for hypnosis.

And who can better fill our minds than the people emptying them. Do you want to give that much power to the public school system, aka government, aka big Corp lobbying? Whose values do you want to take place in your child’s empty head: yours or someone else’s?


https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/06/200615184150.htm

I think you are bit overreacting here. It is about emotional / physical equilibrium and not about hypno séance and propaganda.

Make distinction between:

Okay children, lets close our eyes, put down our heads and let's contemplate the works of Jesus .. or Marks....

from

Okay kids, close your eyes deep eenly in and out.. take deep slow breaths.. hear your own breathing, feel your body and fee your own presence.


Okay? See the difference?

Nobody is trying to levitate the kids into the next dimension.