Will the WTU illegally strike? Not return on 2/1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous[b wrote:]What you are saying doesn't make sense. You can't make kids work in person and you can't make them work at home. If you can put them on a school bus and drop them off to school on time what is the difference?

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Anonymous wrote:Of[/b] course it isn't because it was thrown on teachers suddenly and there is a learning curve. I would love to see the EOY data comparing how much learning was actually lost for the students that were logging on every day for Zoom and completing their asynch lessons. I bet it will be minimal.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m really just curious.

If DCPS’ virtual learning is so completely useless, why are you having your children log into live sessions everyday? It’s pretty obvious you think they are getting something from it. It’s not perfect of course nor is it ideal, but it’s a pandemic and we are all just trying to keep ourselves and our families alive.

Parents are arguing it’s not as effective as in person, not that for every kid it’s totally useless. But for many lower elementary, online learning is ineffective. Does that mean it’s better to have nothing at all? No. But there are lots of aspects of teaching they are lost via online learning. And it has been a year of this, so it’s time to adapt a bit and try to get some kids back in the classroom.

- teacher who knows online learning is not as effective as in person

No, what you need to compare is how the kids who didn't log on would have done if school had been in person. The fact that many never log on is a massive part of the problem is absolutely due to the inadequacy of the virtual format to serve these kids due to their circumstances. You can't just say "what I'm doing is fine if those who have the discipline and support to follow along with the virtual format are doing fine". Your job isn't limited to serving those kids.

Was this meant sarcastically? You are asking the difference between dropping child at bus and DL? DL for younger kids (and some older) include managing multiple platforms, logging them in, and then attempting to make a child learn in a developmentally inappropriate way through zoom meetings. If you prefer to skip Zoom and help your child learn the material independently, then yes, this is most certainly different from dropping off at a bus stop. Not to mention maintaining fast enough Internet, enough devices for everyone in the house, and being a competent or educated parent.

[Anonymous]

^^sorry I bolded wrong sentence. I was replying to the "whats the difference bw the bus stop line"

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m really just curious.

If DCPS’ virtual learning is so completely useless, why are you having your children log into live sessions everyday? It’s pretty obvious you think they are getting something from it. It’s not perfect of course nor is it ideal, but it’s a pandemic and we are all just trying to keep ourselves and our families alive.

I mean, because it’s legally required unless I plan to home school? Because 25% of an education is better than nothing?

Hmmmm...I’m not sure where you’ve been ALL year but live sessions aren’t legally required. All you need to do is login via Canvas daily to be marked present.

This is not correct at all schools. Maybe it technically is, but our school is referring to CPS of child isn’t seen on screen “an adequate amount” in each 2 week period. That is something I 100% have no interest in dealing with. Also, kids will be failed, which I also have no interest in having happen. I assume kid would be socially promoted anyway, but this is just not a path I want to walked down...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m a DCPS parent and I support the WTU.

I'm a teacher and WTU member, and I don't. I have been misrepresented, mislead and lied to.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a DCPS parent and I support the WTU.

I'm a teacher and WTU member, and I don't. I have been misrepresented, mislead and lied to.

And posting this on a public forum is going to do what exactly? Why don’t you communicate with your union instead of DCUM.

[Anonymous]

Many people have gone back to work and are wearing masks. Grocery store workers, retail, transportation workers, child care providers, etc. Also, lot of kids and teachers in other parts of the country have been back in school since last year and are wearing masks.

[Anonymous]

I bet some teachers will quit or retire rather than go back. It is a tough situation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a DCPS parent and I support the WTU.

I'm a teacher and WTU member, and I don't. I have been misrepresented, mislead and lied to.

And posting this on a public forum is going to do what exactly? Why don’t you communicate with your union instead of DCUM.

Or quit the union and negotiate on your own.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a DCPS parent and I support the WTU.

I'm a teacher and WTU member, and I don't. I have been misrepresented, mislead and lied to.

And posting this on a public forum is going to do what exactly? Why don’t you communicate with your union instead of DCUM.

Or quit the union and negotiate on your own.

The union only hears what it wants to hear, appears to act arbitrarily and seems ignore those that don't follow suit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a DCPS parent and I support the WTU.

I'm a teacher and WTU member, and I don't. I have been misrepresented, mislead and lied to.

And posting this on a public forum is going to do what exactly? Why don’t you communicate with your union instead of DCUM.

Or quit the union and negotiate on your own.

I mean, everyone posting here is doing literally nothing to help open schools. Is the PP going to ask everyone posting here how theirs posts are helping “exactly”?

To the immediate PP, that’s not how the union works. I never joined the union and when given the option to stop paying at all, I immediately did. There is no avenue to negotiate myself.

[Anonymous]

https://twitter.com/wtuteacher/status/1353501111680987136?s=21

[Anonymous]

I did something.

I moved. No more tax dollars to a corrupt WTU.

Seriously, folks. WTU is having its moment of power in national spotlight.

And it chose to = not support CHILDREN!

No - (and spare me the BS on it exists for teachers) - it empowered itself to hurt children. HURT.

It bought into hysteria! "We will all die if we must teach in person"! OMG!

Facts do not support this assertion but here in the DMV we must bow to the garbage spewed forth but a small minority.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The gag is that everything you just mentioned starts at home and not in a public building.

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Anonymous wrote:So disgusted with teachers. There aren’t words. My job has been in person the whole pandemic. Meanwhile, the only things my first grader has learned have come from me teaching after work. For shame. Shame!

And we are disgusted with parents like you. Shame! Shame!

Huh? You don't make any sense.

NP. They make perfect sense. These idiotic wails of "I've worked in person the whole time!" are absurd. If your job absolutely, positively, 100% cannot be done in person (inpatient nurse, postal worker, surgeon, etc), then you should be in person. Otherwise, if your employer treats you like crap and forces you to be in person when you could be at home during a pandemic, that's not a good thing or something to be emulated.

People who can work from home (and yes, teachers CAN and ARE and will continue to work from home) should do so until vaccination is prevalent or case rates drop dramatically. You can scream all you want, but that's what will happen.

But you're NOT doing all of your teacher job from home; parents are doing a large portion of it for you.

The idiotic wails of “we ARE doing our job, you just may not like it” are what have really pushed me into the “WTF teachers” camp. Can you all just not admit that you are not doing 100% of your job right now? I totally understand why schools closed back in March, but now, many schools have adapted and made teaching in person safe.

Teachers seem to want it all - work from home, free childcare for THEIR children, and to be first in line for the vaccine. Most people didn’t get any one of those things, let alone all three.

This. We're waaaaay past the point when schools should have reopened.

No I want the bus I take to run so I don't have to spend $25 a day on lyft. All of you are yelling at teachers but have said nothing about other jobs that are running at a much, much lower capacity. But that doesn't matter to you because it has no impact on your life.

You're just as selfish as some teachers, how about you admit that?

Maybe those other jobs don't affect a fundamental societal function and the well-being and future prospects of millions of vulnerable citizens without a strong lobby? This is about what's the right policy when you look at the big picture, not about individual DCUM posters who may or may not be selfish.

Oh, you are one of those who think public school is NOT a fundamental societal function. Ok, so we can stop talking to you, since we can't even agree on basic facts.

Oh and public transportation isn't integral to some people in DC? You can check that privilege at the door.

[Anonymous]

Chicago teachers just voted to refuse in-person learning. They were supposed to report tomorrow; classes were to start 2/1.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I did something.

I moved. No more tax dollars to a corrupt WTU.

Seriously, folks. WTU is having its moment of power in national spotlight.

And it chose to = not support CHILDREN!

No - (and spare me the BS on it exists for teachers) - it empowered itself to hurt children. HURT.

It bought into hysteria! "We will all die if we must teach in person"! OMG!

Facts do not support this assertion but here in the DMV we must bow to the garbage spewed forth but a small minority.

Tend to agree, sadly. My nephew has been back for part time in-person school since the beginning of the year. Catholic school in Maryland. THeir experience has been good and the students don't feel like they are a year behind.