Top SLACs/Ivins non political

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:To 17:47: no one is arguing that students be unaware of politics, or politically apathetic. We are simply asking for recommendations of schools in which a certain political leaning is not shoved into faces at all moments of the day - and woe to anyone who disagrees or refuses to kowtow and go along with asinine antics, such as striking and canceling classes.

That’s it. And it really isn’t too much to ask.

Honestly this is not the difficult problem you seem to think it is.

Honestly, it actually IS a difficult, nay, insurmountable problem at "top SLACs," which is the question OP asked. Look up ^^^^ there. SLACs. and Ivies. The fact that everyone can find a home at 60,000 enrollment U. of Texas Austin is irrelevant if OP's kid only wants a tiny SLAC.

To OP, Penn business and pre-med programs would be possibilities.

Then OPs kid can go to a non-top SLAC. Why is this a problem?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To 17:47: no one is arguing that students be unaware of politics, or politically apathetic. We are simply asking for recommendations of schools in which a certain political leaning is not shoved into faces at all moments of the day - and woe to anyone who disagrees or refuses to kowtow and go along with asinine antics, such as striking and canceling classes.

That’s it. And it really isn’t too much to ask.

Honestly this is not the difficult problem you seem to think it is.

Honestly, it actually IS a difficult, nay, insurmountable problem at "top SLACs," which is the question OP asked. Look up ^^^^ there. SLACs. and Ivies. The fact that everyone can find a home at 60,000 enrollment U. of Texas Austin is irrelevant if OP's kid only wants a tiny SLAC.

To OP, Penn business and pre-med programs would be possibilities.

Because Penn is a SLAC.

It really is possible both for students to dive into activism at college and to ignore it. It is true as some have said that a smaller school will probably make activism more visible but either pick a larger school or deal with it.

[Anonymous]

+1.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DS is applying overseas for this reason. University of Amsterdam is a target

Same. Got into McGill and will be glad to get out of this wash dc leftist fishbowl.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Most Big 10 universities are very diverse politically

Chicago, Vandy, Rice, Rochester, Case Western, Emory, Carnegie Mellon

Davidson, Franklin & Marshall, Denison, Wooster, Lawrence, St. Olaf, Centre, Rhodes, Claremont MCkenna, Oxy

Great list

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are literally 4,000 colleges and 2 that had student strikes.

Yale and Harvard endowment offices get attacked, sit ins, protests, nasty letters all year long. And none of the claims even make sense or are accurate. Too many idiots at the ivies.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Choice of area of concentration may be more important than choice of college. Unfortunately, academics (more often in the humanities) have forgotten the meaning of the term "liberal arts." A liberal arts education is supposed to develop critical thinking skills to choose the best path in life, not to indoctrinate.

You think it’s “the academics” who have forgotten that? I suppose even if that is true, at least they knew what it means at one time.

Funniest post in the thread.

Who lacks critical thinking skills? Yesterday the Trump administration released the "1776 Report," allegedly history but without any footnotes or citations. So, a piece of propaganda reviled by all reputable historians, the ones who actually have critical thinking skills (and work at the schools OP wants to avoid).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2021/01/19/1776-report-historians-trump/

Not seeing how that is relevant to op’s question. Not everyone trying to avoid overly political campuses is a trumper. There are plenty of centrists and even mildly conservative sorts who don’t feel comfortable in the current academic climate at most schools.

This is absolutely true. Conservatives (“Trumper” or not), know exactly which schools they’re interested in. If you want a conservative school, it isn’t hard to find. It is hard to find a school where there is actually open discourse that isn’t dominated by one side or another.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Choice of area of concentration may be more important than choice of college. Unfortunately, academics (more often in the humanities) have forgotten the meaning of the term "liberal arts." A liberal arts education is supposed to develop critical thinking skills to choose the best path in life, not to indoctrinate.

You think it’s “the academics” who have forgotten that? I suppose even if that is true, at least they knew what it means at one time.

Funniest post in the thread.

Who lacks critical thinking skills? Yesterday the Trump administration released the "1776 Report," allegedly history but without any footnotes or citations. So, a piece of propaganda reviled by all reputable historians, the ones who actually have critical thinking skills (and work at the schools OP wants to avoid).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2021/01/19/1776-report-historians-trump/

Not seeing how that is relevant to op’s question. Not everyone trying to avoid overly political campuses is a trumper. There are plenty of centrists and even mildly conservative sorts who don’t feel comfortable in the current academic climate at most schools.

This is absolutely true. Conservatives (“Trumper” or not), know exactly which schools they’re interested in. If you want a conservative school, it isn’t hard to find. It is hard to find a school where there is actually open discourse that isn’t dominated by one side or another.

I'm not even looking for that much. I'd just like to find a school where a kid can keep their head down and learn chemistry without being berated about pronouns or other such.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Choice of area of concentration may be more important than choice of college. Unfortunately, academics (more often in the humanities) have forgotten the meaning of the term "liberal arts." A liberal arts education is supposed to develop critical thinking skills to choose the best path in life, not to indoctrinate.

You think it’s “the academics” who have forgotten that? I suppose even if that is true, at least they knew what it means at one time.

Funniest post in the thread.

Who lacks critical thinking skills? Yesterday the Trump administration released the "1776 Report," allegedly history but without any footnotes or citations. So, a piece of propaganda reviled by all reputable historians, the ones who actually have critical thinking skills (and work at the schools OP wants to avoid).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2021/01/19/1776-report-historians-trump/

Not seeing how that is relevant to op’s question. Not everyone trying to avoid overly political campuses is a trumper. There are plenty of centrists and even mildly conservative sorts who don’t feel comfortable in the current academic climate at most schools.

This is absolutely true. Conservatives (“Trumper” or not), know exactly which schools they’re interested in. If you want a conservative school, it isn’t hard to find. It is hard to find a school where there is actually open discourse that isn’t dominated by one side or another.

I'm not even looking for that much. I'd just like to find a school where a kid can keep their head down and learn chemistry without being berated about pronouns or other such.

Your kid can do that at any school in the country. My very conservative kid is doing fine at a very liberal university. This is not an insurmountable problem no matter how much you’d like to make it so.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Choice of area of concentration may be more important than choice of college. Unfortunately, academics (more often in the humanities) have forgotten the meaning of the term "liberal arts." A liberal arts education is supposed to develop critical thinking skills to choose the best path in life, not to indoctrinate.

You think it’s “the academics” who have forgotten that? I suppose even if that is true, at least they knew what it means at one time.

Funniest post in the thread.

Who lacks critical thinking skills? Yesterday the Trump administration released the "1776 Report," allegedly history but without any footnotes or citations. So, a piece of propaganda reviled by all reputable historians, the ones who actually have critical thinking skills (and work at the schools OP wants to avoid).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2021/01/19/1776-report-historians-trump/

Not seeing how that is relevant to op’s question. Not everyone trying to avoid overly political campuses is a trumper. There are plenty of centrists and even mildly conservative sorts who don’t feel comfortable in the current academic climate at most schools.

This is absolutely true. Conservatives (“Trumper” or not), know exactly which schools they’re interested in. If you want a conservative school, it isn’t hard to find. It is hard to find a school where there is actually open discourse that isn’t dominated by one side or another.

I'm not even looking for that much. I'd just like to find a school where a kid can keep their head down and learn chemistry without being berated about pronouns or other such.

Your kid can do that at any school in the country. My very conservative kid is doing fine at a very liberal university. This is not an insurmountable problem no matter how much you’d like to make it so.

Exactly.

Even assuming there are sit-ins and “nasty letters” directed at the endowment offices those wouldn’t affect your kid’s ability to learn chemistry, or anything else. Really wonder if this is just all an attempt at trolling.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Choice of area of concentration may be more important than choice of college. Unfortunately, academics (more often in the humanities) have forgotten the meaning of the term "liberal arts." A liberal arts education is supposed to develop critical thinking skills to choose the best path in life, not to indoctrinate.

You think it’s “the academics” who have forgotten that? I suppose even if that is true, at least they knew what it means at one time.

Funniest post in the thread.

Who lacks critical thinking skills? Yesterday the Trump administration released the "1776 Report," allegedly history but without any footnotes or citations. So, a piece of propaganda reviled by all reputable historians, the ones who actually have critical thinking skills (and work at the schools OP wants to avoid).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2021/01/19/1776-report-historians-trump/

Not seeing how that is relevant to op’s question. Not everyone trying to avoid overly political campuses is a trumper. There are plenty of centrists and even mildly conservative sorts who don’t feel comfortable in the current academic climate at most schools.

This is absolutely true. Conservatives (“Trumper” or not), know exactly which schools they’re interested in. If you want a conservative school, it isn’t hard to find. It is hard to find a school where there is actually open discourse that isn’t dominated by one side or another.

I'm not even looking for that much. I'd just like to find a school where a kid can keep their head down and learn chemistry without being berated about pronouns or other such.

Your kid can do that at any school in the country. My very conservative kid is doing fine at a very liberal university. This is not an insurmountable problem no matter how much you’d like to make it so.

Exactly.

Even assuming there are sit-ins and “nasty letters” directed at the endowment offices those wouldn’t affect your kid’s ability to learn chemistry, or anything else. Really wonder if this is just all an attempt at trolling.

I don’t think so. In the end what they seem to want is to shut down speech (whether about BLM, pronouns, divestment) because they don’t like it or it bothers their kid. In the name of free speech of course. It’s about making sure conservatives feel “comfortable” on campus. Kind of like a safe space I guess.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DS is applying overseas for this reason. University of Amsterdam is a target

Same. Got into McGill and will be glad to get out of this wash dc leftist fishbowl.

By moving to Canada? OK ...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DS is applying overseas for this reason. University of Amsterdam is a target

Same. Got into McGill and will be glad to get out of this wash dc leftist fishbowl.

By moving to Canada? OK ...

Wait till the other poster gets to Amsterdam

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Liberty. By political you mean “liberal” right? You’re fine if the politics are to the right so a school like Liberty should be fine.

NP, not OP, but this is my question too. And yes, I'll say it - I am not interested in sending DC to a progressive/ liberal school. Liberty is not what we're looking for.

Any other thoughts?

I think you underestimate how much the current wokeness has seized higher ed. When I went to professional school, it was just that. For learning my profession. My school has been annexed by Wokeistan. And don’t get me wrong, I’m totally #BLM, but it’s definitely a different place than before.

Maybe engineering programs are still focused on core curriculum but no way any SLAC or Ivy in America is.

I think you are oversestimating it because Fox and OANN have pushed it as an agenda item.

+1 I was shocked that my brother said he was terrified for my white DS to go to college next year, and that I wasn’t taking it seriously. I told a few friends, and a couple had family members say the same. It’s very troubling.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DS is applying overseas for this reason. University of Amsterdam is a target

Same. Got into McGill and will be glad to get out of this wash dc leftist fishbowl.

By moving to Canada? OK ...

Wait till the other poster gets to Amsterdam

Ha! Yes, when I read that I couldn’t help but think that one of the most liberal kids we know went there. Loved it!