Covid Relief Bill thread

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Anonymous wrote:Pelosi should have taken the $1.8T deal. It WAS over half of what the Dems initially wanted ($3T). In what world of negotiations is getting over half of what you wanted a 'bad deal'? The $1.8T package included $1200 checks, money for states, and unemployment relief, but Pelosi nixed it. Pelosi thought she was being smart, because if it passed she calculated it might help Trump. Except now it has stupendously backfired just like her stupid charade into impeachment to no where. Now the govt is about to get shutdown and Pelosi is now talking about providing no relief all the way until January. She's an incompetent moron, who lives in multi-million dollar gated homes in her exclusive properties in SF and Nappa Valley while reaping millions of dollars from stocks like Visa and Crowdstrike. Meanwhile, Americans suffer because she wants to play politics with the relief bill that could have passed weeks ago with everything she wanted!

Same.

DP. So why can’t it pas now? Ohhhh wait. Mitch. There’s no reason the number had to get smaller other than absolute vindictiveness cruelty and apathy. She said no because of the corporate liability shield, so the number got smaller and smaller until she would be forced to accept it to get crumbs. It’s sick.

She knew what Mitch was from the get go. If he could go smaller he would. She should have accepted the $1.8T. Pelosi yelled and screeched 'it wasn't enough, we need to CRUSH the virus.' How's that crushing going for you? People are starving, its snowing in half the U.S. now with families facing evictions, and we're averaging 3,000+ deaths a day now.

Its Nancy's fault because Mitch is too evil to actually help citizens without trading for corporate interests? What kind of misogynist gaslighting is this??

Not everything is misogyny. I would say the same thing about a male House leader. KNOW WHEN TO FOLD YOUR CARDS. She had a winning hand for the American people most effected by this crisis and she held it back for a gamble. A gamble she lost. Now there's no solution pending. And she's been doing this since July. Always 'CRUSH THE VIRUS'. Never compromise.

Again, it’s Mitch who is the villain here.

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Anonymous wrote:Pelosi should have taken the $1.8T deal. It WAS over half of what the Dems initially wanted ($3T). In what world of negotiations is getting over half of what you wanted a 'bad deal'? The $1.8T package included $1200 checks, money for states, and unemployment relief, but Pelosi nixed it. Pelosi thought she was being smart, because if it passed she calculated it might help Trump. Except now it has stupendously backfired just like her stupid charade into impeachment to no where. Now the govt is about to get shutdown and Pelosi is now talking about providing no relief all the way until January. She's an incompetent moron, who lives in multi-million dollar gated homes in her exclusive properties in SF and Nappa Valley while reaping millions of dollars from stocks like Visa and Crowdstrike. Meanwhile, Americans suffer because she wants to play politics with the relief bill that could have passed weeks ago with everything she wanted!

Same.

DP. So why can’t it pas now? Ohhhh wait. Mitch. There’s no reason the number had to get smaller other than absolute vindictiveness cruelty and apathy. She said no because of the corporate liability shield, so the number got smaller and smaller until she would be forced to accept it to get crumbs. It’s sick.

She knew what Mitch was from the get go. If he could go smaller he would. She should have accepted the $1.8T. Pelosi yelled and screeched 'it wasn't enough, we need to CRUSH the virus.' How's that crushing going for you? People are starving, its snowing in half the U.S. now with families facing evictions, and we're averaging 3,000+ deaths a day now.

Its Nancy's fault because Mitch is too evil to actually help citizens without trading for corporate interests? What kind of misogynist gaslighting is this??

Not everything is misogyny. I would say the same thing about a male House leader. KNOW WHEN TO FOLD YOUR CARDS. She had a winning hand for the American people most effected by this crisis and she held it back for a gamble. A gamble she lost. Now there's no solution pending. And she's been doing this since July. Always 'CRUSH THE VIRUS'. Never compromise.

DP. This is pretty much misogyny. Lazy, stale misogyny.

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Anonymous wrote:Pelosi should have taken the $1.8T deal. It WAS over half of what the Dems initially wanted ($3T). In what world of negotiations is getting over half of what you wanted a 'bad deal'? The $1.8T package included $1200 checks, money for states, and unemployment relief, but Pelosi nixed it. Pelosi thought she was being smart, because if it passed she calculated it might help Trump. Except now it has stupendously backfired just like her stupid charade into impeachment to no where. Now the govt is about to get shutdown and Pelosi is now talking about providing no relief all the way until January. She's an incompetent moron, who lives in multi-million dollar gated homes in her exclusive properties in SF and Nappa Valley while reaping millions of dollars from stocks like Visa and Crowdstrike. Meanwhile, Americans suffer because she wants to play politics with the relief bill that could have passed weeks ago with everything she wanted!

Same.

DP. So why can’t it pas now? Ohhhh wait. Mitch. There’s no reason the number had to get smaller other than absolute vindictiveness cruelty and apathy. She said no because of the corporate liability shield, so the number got smaller and smaller until she would be forced to accept it to get crumbs. It’s sick.

She knew what Mitch was from the get go. If he could go smaller he would. She should have accepted the $1.8T. Pelosi yelled and screeched 'it wasn't enough, we need to CRUSH the virus.' How's that crushing going for you? People are starving, its snowing in half the U.S. now with families facing evictions, and we're averaging 3,000+ deaths a day now.

Its Nancy's fault because Mitch is too evil to actually help citizens without trading for corporate interests? What kind of misogynist gaslighting is this??

Not everything is misogyny. I would say the same thing about a male House leader. KNOW WHEN TO FOLD YOUR CARDS. She had a winning hand for the American people most effected by this crisis and she held it back for a gamble. A gamble she lost. Now there's no solution pending. And she's been doing this since July. Always 'CRUSH THE VIRUS'. Never compromise.

DP. This is pretty much misogyny. Lazy, stale misogyny.

Why? Because a woman is being criticized for holding back relief for more than 20 million households? She thought she knew better than the people begging her to take the deal in October. Turns out - she didn't.

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Nancy called Democrats like Ro Khanna apologists for begging her to take relief in October. She said we aren't waiting until February. Well...Congress goes on vacation from December 21st all the way until January 3rd. We're still going to be a contested Senate in January and they'll say 'well Biden is coming in January 20th lets focus on that'.

Then...its February.

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Anonymous wrote:Pelosi should have taken the $1.8T deal. It WAS over half of what the Dems initially wanted ($3T). In what world of negotiations is getting over half of what you wanted a 'bad deal'? The $1.8T package included $1200 checks, money for states, and unemployment relief, but Pelosi nixed it. Pelosi thought she was being smart, because if it passed she calculated it might help Trump. Except now it has stupendously backfired just like her stupid charade into impeachment to no where. Now the govt is about to get shutdown and Pelosi is now talking about providing no relief all the way until January. She's an incompetent moron, who lives in multi-million dollar gated homes in her exclusive properties in SF and Nappa Valley while reaping millions of dollars from stocks like Visa and Crowdstrike. Meanwhile, Americans suffer because she wants to play politics with the relief bill that could have passed weeks ago with everything she wanted!

There was never an actual $1.8T package.

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Anonymous wrote:Pelosi should have taken the $1.8T deal. It WAS over half of what the Dems initially wanted ($3T). In what world of negotiations is getting over half of what you wanted a 'bad deal'? The $1.8T package included $1200 checks, money for states, and unemployment relief, but Pelosi nixed it. Pelosi thought she was being smart, because if it passed she calculated it might help Trump. Except now it has stupendously backfired just like her stupid charade into impeachment to no where. Now the govt is about to get shutdown and Pelosi is now talking about providing no relief all the way until January. She's an incompetent moron, who lives in multi-million dollar gated homes in her exclusive properties in SF and Nappa Valley while reaping millions of dollars from stocks like Visa and Crowdstrike. Meanwhile, Americans suffer because she wants to play politics with the relief bill that could have passed weeks ago with everything she wanted!

There was never an actual $1.8T package.

That's news to CNN.

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Anonymous wrote:Pelosi should have taken the $1.8T deal. It WAS over half of what the Dems initially wanted ($3T). In what world of negotiations is getting over half of what you wanted a 'bad deal'? The $1.8T package included $1200 checks, money for states, and unemployment relief, but Pelosi nixed it. Pelosi thought she was being smart, because if it passed she calculated it might help Trump. Except now it has stupendously backfired just like her stupid charade into impeachment to no where. Now the govt is about to get shutdown and Pelosi is now talking about providing no relief all the way until January. She's an incompetent moron, who lives in multi-million dollar gated homes in her exclusive properties in SF and Nappa Valley while reaping millions of dollars from stocks like Visa and Crowdstrike. Meanwhile, Americans suffer because she wants to play politics with the relief bill that could have passed weeks ago with everything she wanted!

There was never an actual $1.8T package.

This! Mitch would never bring anything for a floor vote. He wasn't sure even the 500B bill would pass.

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Anonymous wrote:Pelosi should have taken the $1.8T deal. It WAS over half of what the Dems initially wanted ($3T). In what world of negotiations is getting over half of what you wanted a 'bad deal'? The $1.8T package included $1200 checks, money for states, and unemployment relief, but Pelosi nixed it. Pelosi thought she was being smart, because if it passed she calculated it might help Trump. Except now it has stupendously backfired just like her stupid charade into impeachment to no where. Now the govt is about to get shutdown and Pelosi is now talking about providing no relief all the way until January. She's an incompetent moron, who lives in multi-million dollar gated homes in her exclusive properties in SF and Nappa Valley while reaping millions of dollars from stocks like Visa and Crowdstrike. Meanwhile, Americans suffer because she wants to play politics with the relief bill that could have passed weeks ago with everything she wanted!

There was never an actual $1.8T package.

That's news to CNN.

Because they and everyone else are busy trying to pin this on Pelosi. McConnell never agreed to a $1.8T deal.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know where the $1,200 figure comes from? That is such a low number. How does it get people beyond one month?

Its calculated based on an average nationwide minimum wage of $7.25/hr and a 40-hour workweek. One single adult would make $1,200/month based on that total. I don't think it was ever supposed to be more than a top-off for individuals to buy lockdown supplies at the beginning of the crisis.

Thank you for answering.

Citizens should be ashamed to have elected this group of people to Congess. This is really heartbreaking.

Citizens should be ashamed for not voting in a roster of Senate Democrats in last month. Republicans have been holding this crazy line since summer - if you voted for any of these assholes you are the problem.

There were amazing Democrats on the ballot in 2020 - all of whom lost - Sara Gideon against Susan Collins (ME), Theresa Greenfield against Joni Ernst (IO), Steve Bullock against Steve Daines (MT), Al Gross vs Dan Sullivan (AL), Lindsey Graham against Jaime Harrison (SC), John Corryn and MJ Hegar (TX), Thom Tillis vs Cal Cunningham (NC) and Amy McGrath vs Mitch McConnell (KY).

Its times like this when I'm in full support of divesting and just letting the red states do their own thing.

What possible reason would people in Kentucky want to keep Mitch McConnel in other than sticking it to democrats/blue states? Just let them go. If they want to continue to send their money to corporations and eat dust themselves, just let them.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pelosi should have taken the $1.8T deal. It WAS over half of what the Dems initially wanted ($3T). In what world of negotiations is getting over half of what you wanted a 'bad deal'? The $1.8T package included $1200 checks, money for states, and unemployment relief, but Pelosi nixed it. Pelosi thought she was being smart, because if it passed she calculated it might help Trump. Except now it has stupendously backfired just like her stupid charade into impeachment to no where. Now the govt is about to get shutdown and Pelosi is now talking about providing no relief all the way until January. She's an incompetent moron, who lives in multi-million dollar gated homes in her exclusive properties in SF and Nappa Valley while reaping millions of dollars from stocks like Visa and Crowdstrike. Meanwhile, Americans suffer because she wants to play politics with the relief bill that could have passed weeks ago with everything she wanted!

There was never an actual $1.8T package.

That's news to CNN.

Because they and everyone else are busy trying to pin this on Pelosi. McConnell never agreed to a $1.8T deal.

This. So laughable. If he agreed to that then, he should agree to it now, no? He didn’t have the votes.

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It’s just amazing to me that he’s letting his caucus go grinch like this. It’s so clear who the problem is, do they really think people are going to blame the democrats when they can’t buy Christmas dinner much less Christmas presents this year?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s just amazing to me that he’s letting his caucus go grinch like this. It’s so clear who the problem is, do they really think people are going to blame the democrats when they can’t buy Christmas dinner much less Christmas presents this year?

Again, he personally and his party in the Senate paid hardly any price a month ago for acting this way, so there’s nothing to keep him from continuing. It’s not like he actually cares about people.

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Murkowski attempts to tell Mitch what state and local aid actually does (hint: it funds the police)

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Anonymous wrote:Pelosi should have taken the $1.8T deal. It WAS over half of what the Dems initially wanted ($3T). In what world of negotiations is getting over half of what you wanted a 'bad deal'? The $1.8T package included $1200 checks, money for states, and unemployment relief, but Pelosi nixed it. Pelosi thought she was being smart, because if it passed she calculated it might help Trump. Except now it has stupendously backfired just like her stupid charade into impeachment to no where. Now the govt is about to get shutdown and Pelosi is now talking about providing no relief all the way until January. She's an incompetent moron, who lives in multi-million dollar gated homes in her exclusive properties in SF and Nappa Valley while reaping millions of dollars from stocks like Visa and Crowdstrike. Meanwhile, Americans suffer because she wants to play politics with the relief bill that could have passed weeks ago with everything she wanted!

There was never an actual $1.8T package.

That's news to CNN.

Because they and everyone else are busy trying to pin this on Pelosi. McConnell never agreed to a $1.8T deal.

This. So laughable. If he agreed to that then, he should agree to it now, no? He didn’t have the votes.

No, McConnell wanted it then to influence the election and because he feared the Senate might be shaky. Nancy had leverage. He has no such compunction to do a deal now.