I threw it in there just for kicks. It has a pompous ring to it, yes?
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I'm with you on that. I also think of it as a Catholic working-class thing. |
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I know someone with a Dottie and a Betty. They’re impossibly DC hip. |
When I hear double names my mind automatically thinks Bible Belt. It feels very southern, but I can also see the Catholic working class angle. |
+1. Von in Germany is a fairly good indicator of a descendant of noble background. But there are exceptions. |
No. Von is different than Van, which is Dutch. Even Van Beethoven’s family were descended from Dutch. Von typically means you are from a certain place that you owned and that was a major part of royalty - you basically owned a giant estate of land granted by the king. |
No. 'Von' in front of a name is not a sign of people who are/were 'most likely villagers, peasantry.' It is a sign that a person's family was once from a castled estate or large region they owned or controlled. Hence, it is a sign that someone is from a family that were once nobility. Like I said, I live in Germany. I am actually sitting in my house here in Germany now. I've known people who had 'von' in front of their surname, and every one of them was descended from nobility. The 'von' is NOT associated with 'villagers/peasantry', but noble connections/roots, and this is something universally understood here in Germany. I'm am 100% sure that you are wrong here. |
| This thread reminds me why I don’t want to name my son Larlo V, even though I’m married to Larlo IV. |
Anna-Grace, Emma-Kate, Sarah Mae, Grace-Ann...those all scream southern Bible Belt to me. I think there are a good number of Mary Xs in the south too. But as far as Catholics go and double names go I only think of the Mary names (working class or otherwise) as the double names that Catholics will use- grew up with many a Mary Bridget, Mary Margaret, Mary Kate, Mary Grace etc. in my highly Irish Catholic Boston suburb. Which was mostly middle class. But I don’t remember a single other double name besides those that contained Mary. I did have an Ellen Mary in my high school class... |
No way! Teddy is at the country club wearing boat shoes with a sweater draped over his shoulders. Theo is the coolest Huxtable. |
The PP who lives in Germany is 100% correct. Von in Germany is indicative of a noble heritage. "In Deutschland gilt die Präposition von in Familiennamen als Zeichen für einen adligen Ursprung." Translation: In Germany the preposition "von" is a sign of a noble heritage" https://gfds.de/von-in-familiennamen/#:~:text=%5BF%5D%20In%20Deutschland%20gilt%20die,Zeichen%20f%C3%BCr%20einen%20adligen%20Ursprung. There is still nobility in Germany, most Americans just don't realize it. Hubertus Fürst Fugger-Babenhausen von der Lilie Haus Hohenzollern, the line Brandenburg-Preussen. On and on, actually. |
Haha, I adore these names. And lots of other boy names for girls, like Brooks, James, Schuyler, Michael, Fielding, Parker, Sayer, Conway, etc. Love them all, almost makes me wish I was having a girl! |
??? My kid has a four-syllable name (not mentioned here) and...it's really not a burden to say out loud? |
I thought it was autocorrect for Oliver |