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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Kennedy as a first name
Winslow
Huxley
Maximillian
Eugenie
Barron
Blake
Sloan
Last names that begin with "Van" or "Von"
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Really, aren't you ignorant
Dutch last names often start with van, or van der ###
[b]If it starts with von, then it is more likely German[/b]

You might as well say last names that start with Mc### or end with ###son.
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If you see 'von' in a German name, this generally means the person is descended from nobility.  And yes, most of these people do care about that, and do see themselves as something quite special, even though the country hasn't had a true noble class in a long time.

So yes, I'd say 'von' in a name screams 'I'm better than you!'  [/quote]
[b]Don't you mean to say that some German nobles had von in front of their last name.[/b]
It is just a name, not a sign of nobility, never was. 
Battenberg was renamed Mountbatten. BRM changed their last name to Windsor to cover up their German heritage during ww1

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What I did say means essentially the same thing: the 'von' 'generally means the person is descended from nobility'.  Or, as you said, 'some German nobles had von in front of their last name'.

I live in Germany.  I know what I am talking about here.[/quote]
Do you?
The van/von means from. Usually a place name, sometimes not.
It is so common, there are so many variants and the people are not Euroopan royalty or nobles. Most likely villagers, peasantry[/quote]

No.  'Von' in front of a name is not a sign of people who are/were 'most likely villagers, peasantry.'  It is a sign that a person's family was once from a castled estate or large region they owned or controlled.  Hence, it is a sign that someone is from a family that were once nobility.

Like I said, I live in Germany.  I am actually sitting in my house here in Germany now.  I've known people who had 'von' in front of their surname, and every one of them was descended from nobility.  The 'von' is NOT associated with 'villagers/peasantry', but noble connections/roots, and this is something universally understood here in Germany.  I'm am 100% sure that you are wrong here.  [/quote]

The PP who lives in Germany is 100% correct.  Von in Germany is indicative of a noble heritage.

"In Deutschland gilt die Präposition von in Familiennamen als Zeichen für einen adligen Ursprung."  Translation:  In Germany the preposition "von" is a sign of a noble heritage"

https://gfds.de/von-in-familiennamen/#:~:text=%5BF%5D%20In%20Deutschland%20gilt%20die,Zeichen%20f%C3%BCr%20einen%20adligen%20Ursprung.

There is still nobility in Germany, most Americans just don't realize it.

Hubertus Fürst Fugger-Babenhausen von der Lilie

Haus Hohenzollern, the line Brandenburg-Preussen.

On and on, actually.

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