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Anonymous
Given that this is a pandemic, however, I think the analysis should be whether it is worth paying this money for a year to keep a beloved school afloat and protect jobs.


What about the school's obligation to keep beloved families afloat and protect their jobs by providing them with someone to supervise their child during the work day? The school could offer to hire childcare providers and have them supervise the online learning at outdoor stations or under tents. I mean, if we're supposed to bend over backward for the school, why isn't the school expected to do something to help us?
Anonymous
I think parents who don't want to do online learning should withdraw and direct those funds at childcare/learning facilitators, etc. I wouldn't pay this money for an online education either, but I alslo wouldn't blame the teachers for wanting to do their jobs virtually.
Anonymous
Hopefully everyone saw the new robust improved remoteplus plan they just sent out. Btw it’s bullshit and there is nothing plus about it. It’s all remote.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Hopefully everyone saw the new robust improved remoteplus plan they just sent out. Btw it’s bullshit and there is nothing plus about it. It’s all remote.


It’s actually similar to what other schools are doing. They are having some in-person experiences during September while they are remote. Kids will come on campus in small groups and practice distancing and masking together. And they are having more synchronous classes and predictable schedule. Seems reasonable to me.
Anonymous
Wow! While I agree with some of the concerns about lack of transparency and other issues at Burgundy and understand the child care concerns, it is amazing to me how so few people in this set of posts acknowledge that the CDC says that we are at 50,000 new COVID cases per day, but should be under 10,000 before we can get things under control. Sure, we are doing OK in Northern Virginia right now, but that is because many people have diligently followed the CDC's advice despite the madness in other areas of the country. Look at Georgia. They rushed to send their kids back to school and generated many new COVID cases. And what about the documented concerns that many people are left with chronic illnesses and disabilities even if they are not hospitalized? What about the more vulnerable members of childrens' households? What about the welfare of the more vulnerable among our teachers. Burgundy teachers are not alone in their concerns. An NPR/Ipsos poll found that 82% of teachers are concerned about coming back to school and 2/3 prefer to teach primarily remotely: https://www.npr.org/2020/08/06/898584176/most-teachers-concerned-about-in-person-school-2-in-3-want-to-start-the-year-onl. All I have seen on this forum is a lot of whining about inconvenience. Start talking about COVID risks vs. pros and cons of distance vs. on-campus learning. Personally, I don't trust teachers to be able to enforce social distancing among younger kids, especially among those who can't seem to control their impulses and there have been several in my daughter's classes. Teachers will have a huge burden to control these kids and at personal risk. And all that crap about open space goes out the window when it is raining, snowing, or just freezing. And don't tell me a kid can learn better sitting on a tree stump than they can sitting in a classroom or in front of a computer. There are only so many fru-fru nature lessons that Burgundy can teach. And by the way, I attended the July Burgundy Town Hall and the school did NOT promise on-campus learning in September. We were told that the school had a plan to try to do that, but that it was unsure how things were unfolding with COVID and therefore would re-evaluate and report back to parents in early August, which is what it did.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hopefully everyone saw the new robust improved remoteplus plan they just sent out. Btw it’s bullshit and there is nothing plus about it. It’s all remote.


It’s actually similar to what other schools are doing. They are having some in-person experiences during September while they are remote. Kids will come on campus in small groups and practice distancing and masking together. And they are having more synchronous classes and predictable schedule. Seems reasonable to me.


When will kids come on campus?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Former Burgundy parent here. Please keep in mind that Burgundy teachers make about $10,000/year than their public school counterparts -- and those counterparts are allowed to teach virtually this year, keeping themselves and their families safe. Please also keep in mind that many of the Burgundy teachers also have to wrestle with their own child care/schooling needs. Was Burgundy offering to assist with free tuition and child care? I doubt it. I think parents should direct their anger at the administration, not the teachers. I wouldn't want to teach live to children either -- I remember 2 weeks last year at Burgundy when roughly 75% of my daughter's class was out with the flu. I think it is perfectly reasonable for any teacher to decide that teaching in person is not safe at this time -- even with Burgundy's large outdoor campus.

I concur with some of the commenters that no online education is worth $35-40K for elementary or middle school. Given that this is a pandemic, however, I think the analysis should be whether it is worth paying this money for a year to keep a beloved school afloat and protect jobs. For some people, that answer might be no, given their own financial challenges and/or if they need to work outside the home. I cast no judgment. But being mad at teachers because the school is going virtual when just about every other private school is coming to the same conclusion is perplexing to me. Be mad at the pandemic, be mad at our leaders who have let us get to this point, and sure, feel free to be mad at Jeff and Elizabeth for failing to communicate that school will have to be virtual if teachers are not comfortable teaching live.


You people obviously have more money than you know what to do with. Speechless.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hopefully everyone saw the new robust improved remoteplus plan they just sent out. Btw it’s bullshit and there is nothing plus about it. It’s all remote.


It’s actually similar to what other schools are doing. They are having some in-person experiences during September while they are remote. Kids will come on campus in small groups and practice distancing and masking together. And they are having more synchronous classes and predictable schedule. Seems reasonable to me.


When will kids come on campus?


They have an on-campus orientation and some on-campus experiences during virtual learning that teachers are currently planning. They even said they hope to use their West Virginia campus.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hopefully everyone saw the new robust improved remoteplus plan they just sent out. Btw it’s bullshit and there is nothing plus about it. It’s all remote.


It’s actually similar to what other schools are doing. They are having some in-person experiences during September while they are remote. Kids will come on campus in small groups and practice distancing and masking together. And they are having more synchronous classes and predictable schedule. Seems reasonable to me.


When will kids come on campus?


They have an on-campus orientation and some on-campus experiences during virtual learning that teachers are currently planning. They even said they hope to use their West Virginia campus.


Ha! Just like they said they hope to send kids to the Cove this summer and they hope to be back in person five days a week in-person? Give me my money back
Anonymous
ACDS opening back up in person. Good for them!
Anonymous
ACDS opening back up in person. Good for them!


Aw man. That is where I wanted my kid to go but he got waitlisted and did not get off.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hopefully everyone saw the new robust improved remoteplus plan they just sent out. Btw it’s bullshit and there is nothing plus about it. It’s all remote.


It’s actually similar to what other schools are doing. They are having some in-person experiences during September while they are remote. Kids will come on campus in small groups and practice distancing and masking together. And they are having more synchronous classes and predictable schedule. Seems reasonable to me.


When will kids come on campus?


They have an on-campus orientation and some on-campus experiences during virtual learning that teachers are currently planning. They even said they hope to use their West Virginia campus.


Ha! Just like they said they hope to send kids to the Cove this summer and they hope to be back in person five days a week in-person? Give me my money back


I know pandemics suck. I hope this will be all you have to complain about. Then you will come out on the other side of it a lot better off than millions of people. Good luck to you!
Anonymous
I know pandemics suck. I hope this will be all you have to complain about. Then you will come out on the other side of it a lot better off than millions of people. Good luck to you!


Lots of people always have it worse. Before this, I hope you never complained about someone stealing your wallet or robbing your house, because that doesn't compare to the suffering of people who were dying of cancer at the time. Best of luck to you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
I know pandemics suck. I hope this will be all you have to complain about. Then you will come out on the other side of it a lot better off than millions of people. Good luck to you!


Lots of people always have it worse. Before this, I hope you never complained about someone stealing your wallet or robbing your house, because that doesn't compare to the suffering of people who were dying of cancer at the time. Best of luck to you.


I don’t see how that’s related. Cancer and being robbed have no connection.

The pandemic and schools operating remotely do have a connection.
Anonymous
Hey Burgundy, Alexandria Country Day School is opening.
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