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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand. I’m a firmer DOJ Atty and I just don’t understand. Even if this firing turns out to be for some highly legitimate reason, how is there no regard for optics on any given day? I shudder.

Optics don't matter anymore. When Trump was impeached but not removed, that was a green light. He can do anything. He will do anything.

When you're a star, you can do anything, he said.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This many pages in and no one has mentioned that Berman and the SDNY has current investigations of Trump supporters like Giuliani and Erdogan as well as the Epstein case. He probably looked into one of the Trump children or Kushner and Trump told Barr to fire him.

My guess is that it's much more straight forward and more about what he wouldn't do rather than what he is doing. People can compartmentalize ethically questionable inactions more than actions. I'm guessing he refused to go after Bolton or Biden.

That's a bad guess then because Barr can always go after Bolton or Biden himself or through a special prosecutor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This many pages in and no one has mentioned that Berman and the SDNY has current investigations of Trump supporters like Giuliani and Erdogan as well as the Epstein case. He probably looked into one of the Trump children or Kushner and Trump told Barr to fire him.

My guess is that it's much more straight forward and more about what he wouldn't do rather than what he is doing. People can compartmentalize ethically questionable inactions more than actions. I'm guessing he refused to go after Bolton or Biden.

That's a bad guess then because Barr can always go after Bolton or Biden himself or through a special prosecutor.

Not if he doesn't want it to look like a bald political act. It has to be something immediate and in the now. Trump doesn't plan things out ahead of time. I also think it has to be an action rather than an inaction.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“ At virtually any point, it would’ve taken just 3-4 of the 53 Republicans in the US Senate to come together and check any of this stuff.

Their failure to do so is the root cause of basically all of the other institutional failures and crises we’re facing right now”

https://mobile.twitter.com/yarbro/status/1274200120284848131

Could post this quote in several threads including but not restricted to the thread about the horrific Covid19 death toll (120,000 souls) and the thread about the revelations in the Bolton book (approving of putting over a million people in concentration camps etc).

And this is why, no matter what it is that Donald Trump has done, I ALWAYS name the GOP as well. This is a systemic problem within the GOP: they are all guilty of enabling this, which means they want this.

Frankly, I think Berman might actually have been doing his job or letting the attorneys beneath him do theirs and continue to investigate Trump and his spawn, Barr, etc., and Trump couldn’t handle it.

I further wonder if Donald’s dementia is getting to the point where it will be undeniable to even the most fervent Trumpers, if the Trump side is trying to negotiate a no-prosecute agreement in return for his resignation and if SDNY is refusing to play ball because the crimes are so heinous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This many pages in and no one has mentioned that Berman and the SDNY has current investigations of Trump supporters like Giuliani and Erdogan as well as the Epstein case. He probably looked into one of the Trump children or Kushner and Trump told Barr to fire him.

My guess is that it's much more straight forward and more about what he wouldn't do rather than what he is doing. People can compartmentalize ethically questionable inactions more than actions. I'm guessing he refused to go after Bolton or Biden.

Bolton and Biden don’t have anything to go after in Berman’s jurisdiction, though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“ At virtually any point, it would’ve taken just 3-4 of the 53 Republicans in the US Senate to come together and check any of this stuff.

Their failure to do so is the root cause of basically all of the other institutional failures and crises we’re facing right now”

https://mobile.twitter.com/yarbro/status/1274200120284848131

Could post this quote in several threads including but not restricted to the thread about the horrific Covid19 death toll (120,000 souls) and the thread about the revelations in the Bolton book (approving of putting over a million people in concentration camps etc).

And this is why, no matter what it is that Donald Trump has done, I ALWAYS name the GOP as well. This is a systemic problem within the GOP: they are all guilty of enabling this, which means they want this.

Frankly, I think Berman might actually have been doing his job or letting the attorneys beneath him do theirs and continue to investigate Trump and his spawn, Barr, etc., and Trump couldn’t handle it.

I further wonder if Donald’s dementia is getting to the point where it will be undeniable to even the most fervent Trumpers, if the Trump side is trying to negotiate a no-prosecute agreement in return for his resignation and if SDNY is refusing to play ball because the crimes are so heinous.

Narcissists don’t resign.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This many pages in and no one has mentioned that Berman and the SDNY has current investigations of Trump supporters like Giuliani and Erdogan as well as the Epstein case. He probably looked into one of the Trump children or Kushner and Trump told Barr to fire him.

These were mentioned on the first page.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This many pages in and no one has mentioned that Berman and the SDNY has current investigations of Trump supporters like Giuliani and Erdogan as well as the Epstein case. He probably looked into one of the Trump children or Kushner and Trump told Barr to fire him.

My guess is that it's much more straight forward and more about what he wouldn't do rather than what he is doing. People can compartmentalize ethically questionable inactions more than actions. I'm guessing he refused to go after Bolton or Biden.

That's a bad guess then because Barr can always go after Bolton or Biden himself or through a special prosecutor.

Not if he doesn't want it to look like a bald political act. It has to be something immediate and in the now. Trump doesn't plan things out ahead of time. I also think it has to be an action rather than an inaction.

You are just making stuff up. They are not afraid of "bald political acts." They do them every day. You are right that Trump.doesn't plan, but that is irrelevant to your point.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Barr is now purging SDNY, with the head "resigning" and being replaced by the head of the SEC who has ties to many of the same money laundering banks as Trump and Erdogan.

Are we winning yet?

Clayton is an odd pick for SDNY because he doesn’t have prosecutorial experience. But he is otherwise a highly competent lawyer and reasonable/honest person.

...with numerous possible conflicts of interests with some cases under investigation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Berman with a truly remarkable statement. He is FORCING the president to fire him

Trump will either do it and have an immediate obstruction of justice charge, or else he will back down and look even weaker than he already is.

Good for a patriot like Berman.

It’s not clear he can even be fired. He wasn’t senate confirmed. He was appointed by the court. He is taking the position that only the court can remove him and without that he will stay until someone else is senate confirmed.

Monday morning could be incredibly interesting in that office.

If it is litigated, it is really unclear how this would play out.

Trump has fired people that he does not clearly have the authority to fire. Obviously he can fire a US Attorney.

Cites for the people for whom he had no authority to fire.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Barr is now purging SDNY, with the head "resigning" and being replaced by the head of the SEC who has ties to many of the same money laundering banks as Trump and Erdogan.

Are we winning yet?

Clayton is an odd pick for SDNY because he doesn’t have prosecutorial experience. But he is otherwise a highly competent lawyer and reasonable/honest person.

...with numerous possible conflicts of interests with some cases under investigation.

And if he has actual conflicts of interest as determined by the ethics office, he will recuse himself, as do other appointees, almost all of whom will have conflicts in some cases.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Berman with a truly remarkable statement. He is FORCING the president to fire him

Trump will either do it and have an immediate obstruction of justice charge, or else he will back down and look even weaker than he already is.

Good for a patriot like Berman.

It’s not clear he can even be fired. He wasn’t senate confirmed. He was appointed by the court. He is taking the position that only the court can remove him and without that he will stay until someone else is senate confirmed.

Monday morning could be incredibly interesting in that office.

If it is litigated, it is really unclear how this would play out.

Trump has fired people that he does not clearly have the authority to fire. Obviously he can fire a US Attorney.

Cites for the people for whom he had no authority to fire.

Boente. Also Cordray, although that was ambiguous.

[Anonymous]

So fourteen hours into a full blown controversy, DOJ hasn’t supplied a single reason for why Barr is trying to force Berman out, even a laughable one. That obviously speaks volumes on its own.

[Anonymous]