Question for Michigan residents - how do in-state people view the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
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Anonymous
but gretchen whitmer, our lordess and savior went there! |
Anonymous
yes - there are huge variances. |
Anonymous
| To be clear, I was not approving the prior poster's use of the word "trash" to describe certain out of state students from the northeast. I think that using that word was coded dog whistling. I'm saying this now just in case my post of a few minutes ago was too subtle for some readers. |
Anonymous
You should refer to her by her full name: Gretchen Half Whitmer |
Anonymous
If your goal is to be clear, why encode a dog whistle. Seems like overkill. A double veil. That's like encoding something that's already been transmitted in cipher. |
Anonymous
The state of Michigan generously kicks in 14% of the school's general fund budget. The retrenchment in state funding is what drives OOS enrollment. |
Anonymous
Nevertheless, UM-Ann Arbor has a duty to educate Michiganders. If that's not the case, then why not take the school private? All you'd have to do is jack up tuition a bit (for those currently paying in-state tuition rates) to make up for the 14% that the state currently supplies to the school's budget. |
Anonymous
As a Michigander and UM graduate, this is how I respond to the high OOS % - UM is not a state school, it is a school that gives a discount to people from Michigan. Of course this is obvious sarcasm. Regarding Hillsdale, I have worked with several graduates and have found them hard working, articulate and friendly. |
Anonymous
Very benevolent of UM to grant discounts to Michiganders. |
Anonymous
If the state is only providing 14% of the funding, then a reasonable tax payer cannot expect the University to have a matriculation that is 80 or 90% Michigan residents. If it were such a priority to have state residents attend, then vote for state representatives who will increase the budget accordingly. Otherwise, don't complain about OOS students and the full freight money they are bringing, as well as the services/social dollars they add to the local economy. |
Anonymous
In a sense, you're correct. But I suspect the dynamic has, by now, turned into a vicious circle: UM wants to have a national rep, so it encourages OOS enrollment -- and the accompanying revenue. State legislators look at this and decide the school doesn't need greater funding; and maybe UM can do with less. So, not surprisingly, UM comes to rely more and more upon full-pay out of state enrollees (who can afford to go to more prestigious private colleges, but can't get into them). |
Anonymous
Thw heyday of the State of Michigan along with the automotive industry was the 1950s - 1970s. Once the early 1980s recession along with the endless downsizing of GM started, state funding for UM went down. I agree with the poster who identified this as a vicious circle. Detroit is nowhere near an Atlanta, Chicago, or Dallas and will never be. So state aid to universities educates residents who take these skills and go somewhere else. |
Anonymous
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Why doesn't Michigan, a state whose residents and taxpayers built up one of the finest R1s in the world over the last 200 years, just hand it over to Wall Street parasites to operate as their private tax free hedge fund and televised sports program? . . .
fyi, that mere 15% is about $350 million a year from state taxpayers, and the gov just bumped it 2% |
Anonymous
Do Michigan taxpayers get first dibs on the football ducats? Or a discount on them? |
Anonymous
Teaching is a loose term here. Had some classes where I understood very little of what was said. |