We “cured” DD’s childhood obesity

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is a difference between cooked and processed. Clearly some people are calling cooking processing food. And they think they are oh, so smart and uppity. They just sound stupid.


No. How do you think cheese is made? Yogurt? Bread? Wine and beer? Spaghetti? Guacamole? Salsa? These are all made using processes.

What do YOU mean by “processed?” Because you aren’t using the correct word. Don’t make me go all Ingo Montoya on you.

Ha. You clear don't cook! And don't know how to cook! Sad, really.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is a difference between cooked and processed. Clearly some people are calling cooking processing food. And they think they are oh, so smart and uppity. They just sound stupid.


No. How do you think cheese is made? Yogurt? Bread? Wine and beer? Spaghetti? Guacamole? Salsa? These are all made using processes.

What do YOU mean by “processed?” Because you aren’t using the correct word. Don’t make me go all Ingo Montoya on you.


I cook all those things - cheese is milk plus acid, yogurt is milk plus culture, bread is...kinda the definition of baking. Guacamole and salsa are Tuesday night dinner. Sure, cooking is a process - but harvesting is a process, and washing is a process, and chopping is a process - are you saying any food that is not still on the plant on on the hoof is “processed”?
Anonymous
OP, I applaud you for taking control, but I want you to realize that this will be a lifelong struggle for your daughter.

It’s not fair, but it is what it is
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is a difference between cooked and processed. Clearly some people are calling cooking processing food. And they think they are oh, so smart and uppity. They just sound stupid.


No. How do you think cheese is made? Yogurt? Bread? Wine and beer? Spaghetti? Guacamole? Salsa? These are all made using processes.

What do YOU mean by “processed?” Because you aren’t using the correct word. Don’t make me go all Ingo Montoya on you.


I cook all those things - cheese is milk plus acid, yogurt is milk plus culture, bread is...kinda the definition of baking. Guacamole and salsa are Tuesday night dinner. Sure, cooking is a process - but harvesting is a process, and washing is a process, and chopping is a process - are you saying any food that is not still on the plant on on the hoof is “processed”?


Yes, basically.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There is a difference between cooked and processed. Clearly some people are calling cooking processing food. And they think they are oh, so smart and uppity. They just sound stupid.


No. How do you think cheese is made? Yogurt? Bread? Wine and beer? Spaghetti? Guacamole? Salsa? These are all made using processes.

What do YOU mean by “processed?” Because you aren’t using the correct word. Don’t make me go all Ingo Montoya on you.


I cook all those things - cheese is milk plus acid, yogurt is milk plus culture, bread is...kinda the definition of baking. Guacamole and salsa are Tuesday night dinner. Sure, cooking is a process - but harvesting is a process, and washing is a process, and chopping is a process - are you saying any food that is not still on the plant on on the hoof is “processed”?


Yes, basically.


Then you're mistaken. Words have specific accepted meanings, they don't mean whatever you think they should mean.
Anonymous
Millennial mom to her 3 year old:
"Let's process some carrots for a snack honey."
Opens a bag of pre-cut, pre-washed baby carrots.
"Is it done, mommy? When are we doing it? Can I do it?"

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do you people really think puffs are nutritious? Because they are actually just convenience food that's not particularly good for anyone. Just a gimmick for parents who want to feed easy snacks on the go.


Seriously, they're about as processed as you can get: puffs are produced through a process called extrusion, which involves mixing grains with water and–through high temperatures and pressure–forcing them through a tiny hole to give them their desired shape. The "vegetable" is powder, which have virutally no nutrients.



Meh. Nobody cares about puffs. They are neutral; just a fun little snack to help your kid learn to eat without choking. The point isn’t that they are nutritious, but that someone shouldn’t brag about avoiding them because they are purportedly junk food. That is a red flag for someone who has an unhealthy relationship with food.


Your kid can learn to eat without eating highly processed crap, which is what they are. Cut up some actual food, don't be so lazy.


Oh please. You seriously think someone is lazy because they don’t villainize puffs? That’s insane. When your kids are teens (I assume you still have little kids or you would know better) they will be going out with friends and eating Doritos and donuts and probably vaping. You will realize how silly it was to brag about not feeding a toddler a few puffs here and there.
Anonymous
We started with Puffs and now are at Popeyes after the dinner time basketball Popeyes. Damn those Puffs for starting us down this path!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We started with Puffs and now are at Popeyes after the dinner time basketball Popeyes. Damn those Puffs for starting us down this path!


I love Popeyes!!! So do my kids, and they had Puffs! Oops!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Do you people really think puffs are nutritious? Because they are actually just convenience food that's not particularly good for anyone. Just a gimmick for parents who want to feed easy snacks on the go.


Seriously, they're about as processed as you can get: puffs are produced through a process called extrusion, which involves mixing grains with water and–through high temperatures and pressure–forcing them through a tiny hole to give them their desired shape. The "vegetable" is powder, which have virutally no nutrients.



Meh. Nobody cares about puffs. They are neutral; just a fun little snack to help your kid learn to eat without choking. The point isn’t that they are nutritious, but that someone shouldn’t brag about avoiding them because they are purportedly junk food. That is a red flag for someone who has an unhealthy relationship with food.


Your kid can learn to eat without eating highly processed crap, which is what they are. Cut up some actual food, don't be so lazy.


Oh please. You seriously think someone is lazy because they don’t villainize puffs? That’s insane. When your kids are teens (I assume you still have little kids or you would know better) they will be going out with friends and eating Doritos and donuts and probably vaping. You will realize how silly it was to brag about not feeding a toddler a few puffs here and there.


I have 3 kids, only one of whom is a toddler. Sad for you if you think it’s normal for your teen to be vaping. As for Doritos, maybe. At least they would have had 12 years of great nutrition at a time their bodies are growing the most. It’s no secret that we’re all getting sicker as a society. Even kids. You’d have to be a total idiot to not think that’s connected in any way to the way people eat these days.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP said the daughter grew into her weight over a period of years. That does not sound like an eating disorder at all. That tends to involve rapid weight loss. Sounds like OP and the child’s daughter helped her slowly change her trajectory in a sustainable and non-restrictive way. Kudos!


That's not what she said. Which is why people are having trouble understanding.

If you read her post she used the word "cured"

She also, said 90 minutes of exercise daily (sounding like this was mandatory).

Obsessed over her finishing her bottle as an infant. Many, many infants feed that way. Indicating she was obsessing over weight when here child was an infant.

Talked about her child's weight in front her with pediatrician. That conversation the way she described seems strange and emotionally damaging.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP said the daughter grew into her weight over a period of years. That does not sound like an eating disorder at all. That tends to involve rapid weight loss. Sounds like OP and the child’s daughter helped her slowly change her trajectory in a sustainable and non-restrictive way. Kudos!


That's not what she said. Which is why people are having trouble understanding.

If you read her post she used the word "cured"

She also, said 90 minutes of exercise daily (sounding like this was mandatory).

Obsessed over her finishing her bottle as an infant. Many, many infants feed that way. Indicating she was obsessing over weight when here child was an infant.

Talked about her child's weight in front her with pediatrician. That conversation the way she described seems strange and emotionally damaging.



Technically, she did "cure" her DD's obesity, since she is no longer obese. What else would you call a normal weight child? And she did it properly, by increasing fruits and veggies and allowing her to grow into her weight rather than dieting.

OP did it right. Attacking her is your issue, not hers.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP said the daughter grew into her weight over a period of years. That does not sound like an eating disorder at all. That tends to involve rapid weight loss. Sounds like OP and the child’s daughter helped her slowly change her trajectory in a sustainable and non-restrictive way. Kudos!


That's not what she said. Which is why people are having trouble understanding.

If you read her post she used the word "cured"

She also, said 90 minutes of exercise daily (sounding like this was mandatory).

Obsessed over her finishing her bottle as an infant. Many, many infants feed that way. Indicating she was obsessing over weight when here child was an infant.

Talked about her child's weight in front her with pediatrician. That conversation the way she described seems strange and emotionally damaging.



1) “cured” denotes converted from medical diagnosis to not qualifying to that diagnosis
2) never obsessed over bottles; as I said I never thought she had a problem before MD raised it
3) ped, who did additional training in childhood nutrition, talked about her health in front of/with her patient, my child.

Lots of people in this thread clearly have big baggage about food that they want to project on me.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What is wrong with you people? Avoiding giving her child processed foods like puffs doesn't mean she's obsessed or that her eating is disordered. There is so much misinformation out there about diet and nutrition. OP admitted that had bought into some of that misinformation like believing that fruits that are higher in sugar aren't healthy. She has now changed her thinking after following the advice of her doctor. Jeez, give her a break. Good job OP. It's not easy to change habits and beliefs around diet and it sounds like you've made a lot of progress with your daughter.


Most foods are processed.

Yogurt is processed. Bread is processed. Cheese is processed. Granola is processed. Pasta is processed. Nearly everything we eat is produced using a process.


Depends on who you are. I do a large salad everyday. Romaine and/or spinach, peppers, celery, tomatoes, cucumber, any other veggies that appeal (raw), beans (just soaked and cooked), nuts/seeds (raw, unsalted), fresh fruit (normally berry or citrus). The only “processed” things on my salad are shredded poached chicken or turkey (bought raw), eggs that I boil and peel, and cottage cheese. Breakfast is usually veggies sautéed in oil and egg. Snack is typically plain Greek yogurt with fruit and/or nuts. So, the only processed items I eat on a regular basis are cottage cheese and yogurt. I add salt to many thing I eat, since my diet doesn’t contain enough in the food (per my doctor).

When I cook for others, I cook from scratch. I don’t use anything that contains ingredients I don’t recognize, and I prefer cooking from whole, raw foods.


NP. We don't eat processed foods either. It's a sad, sad reflection on America that some people genuinely think that avoiding Cheerios, granola, pasta and puffs is "disordered eating".


+1

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP said the daughter grew into her weight over a period of years. That does not sound like an eating disorder at all. That tends to involve rapid weight loss. Sounds like OP and the child’s daughter helped her slowly change her trajectory in a sustainable and non-restrictive way. Kudos!


That's not what she said. Which is why people are having trouble understanding.

If you read her post she used the word "cured"

She also, said 90 minutes of exercise daily (sounding like this was mandatory).

Obsessed over her finishing her bottle as an infant. Many, many infants feed that way. Indicating she was obsessing over weight when here child was an infant.

Talked about her child's weight in front her with pediatrician. That conversation the way she described seems strange and emotionally damaging.



1) “cured” denotes converted from medical diagnosis to not qualifying to that diagnosis
2) never obsessed over bottles; as I said I never thought she had a problem before MD raised it
3) ped, who did additional training in childhood nutrition, talked about her health in front of/with her patient, my child.

Lots of people in this thread clearly have big baggage about food that they want to project on me.


Oh and 4) not “exercise” but “active play.” Seems like you are the one who has trouble understanding.
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