Upper NW DC the "Suburbs"?

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Technically it's the city even though it has a suburban feel.
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Anonymous wrote:Technically it's the city even though it has a suburban feel.


Duh. Tell us something we don’t know
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Anonymous wrote:Yes CCDC is the suburbs.

So is Brooklyn


And Queens!


Queens feels like the suburbs. Most of Brooklyn does not until you get to Sheepshead Bay.


Brooklyn is literally called the 1st suburb in the US.

It’s not about feel it’s about it being the suburb.


Brooklyn and Queens offer very mixed housing options. NWDC is definitely a lot more residential than either of them overall. There are areas of Brooklyn that are similar in density to NWDC, but they are still better covered by subway access, closer and more frequent subway stops, more commercial strips in closer walking distance than NWDC, not as car oriented, as commercial establishments don't offer parking for the most part. There are clearly suburban parts of Queens that are far from subway, but overall Brooklyn and Queens have large swaths of rowhouse/apartment building density that is closer in nature to DC core areas and not residential NWDC. DC itself is about as dense as Brooklyn and Queens, it's a mid rise and rowhouse density. NWDC has a more urban feel only around its main streets near metro stations, but metro stations are very far apart IMHO to make the entirety of this area feel urban. It's more like a denser suburb, then a city.


CCDC and Brooklyn are both suburbs.


What? Brooklyn is huge, it could be a city of its own and has an infrastructure of a city, CCDC is a neighborhood. It seems like you either had never been to Brooklyn or your idea of it is based upon the stupid Sex and the city show where Miranda "escapes" to the burbs of Brooklyn for that back yard. Brooklyn is immense and much much more dense, it has multiple subway lines, Prospect Park, museums and theaters, office buildings and ferry stations and a well developed waterfront, highrise density and mostly rowhomes with some SFH areas as well. It has MANY neighborhoods. And technically Brooklyn IS NYC, it's an outer borough, not a suburb. NYC has suburbs further out, in Long Island, Westchester and NJ. NYC has 5 boroughs, the most suburban of them is Staten Island. The comparison between Brooklyn with its tons of diverse neighborhoods to one residential area of DC is laughable.


I does not matter what you "think should be a suburb". You have created some ridiculous criteria for "suburb" IN YOUR HEAD..... Brooklyn is the 1st suburb and it still is a suburb.

Brooklyn is a suburb get over it.

It's a borough, not a city.

So whether you live in CCDC or Brooklyn you are a suburbanite, even if it hurts your little feelings and destroys what you thought was your "city girl" identity.


Brooklyn was a city in its own right before unifying with Manhattan to become one of the boroughs. So its history is not one as a suburb.

Otherwise I do agree upper NW is not urban. Places like upper NW exist in other cities but are firmly in the suburbs. Like Brookline, which was a suburban town of Boston. If the city borders of DC were smaller, upper NW would be in Montgomery County and thus in the suburbs. As it is, upper NW is within the city of Washington, but it is not an urban area.
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Anonymous wrote:Technically it's the city even though it has a suburban feel.


No. Technically it is the suburbs.
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Anonymous wrote:Yes CCDC is the suburbs.

So is Brooklyn


And Queens!


Queens feels like the suburbs. Most of Brooklyn does not until you get to Sheepshead Bay.


Brooklyn is literally called the 1st suburb in the US.

It’s not about feel it’s about it being the suburb.


Brooklyn and Queens offer very mixed housing options. NWDC is definitely a lot more residential than either of them overall. There are areas of Brooklyn that are similar in density to NWDC, but they are still better covered by subway access, closer and more frequent subway stops, more commercial strips in closer walking distance than NWDC, not as car oriented, as commercial establishments don't offer parking for the most part. There are clearly suburban parts of Queens that are far from subway, but overall Brooklyn and Queens have large swaths of rowhouse/apartment building density that is closer in nature to DC core areas and not residential NWDC. DC itself is about as dense as Brooklyn and Queens, it's a mid rise and rowhouse density. NWDC has a more urban feel only around its main streets near metro stations, but metro stations are very far apart IMHO to make the entirety of this area feel urban. It's more like a denser suburb, then a city.


CCDC and Brooklyn are both suburbs.


What? Brooklyn is huge, it could be a city of its own and has an infrastructure of a city, CCDC is a neighborhood. It seems like you either had never been to Brooklyn or your idea of it is based upon the stupid Sex and the city show where Miranda "escapes" to the burbs of Brooklyn for that back yard. Brooklyn is immense and much much more dense, it has multiple subway lines, Prospect Park, museums and theaters, office buildings and ferry stations and a well developed waterfront, highrise density and mostly rowhomes with some SFH areas as well. It has MANY neighborhoods. And technically Brooklyn IS NYC, it's an outer borough, not a suburb. NYC has suburbs further out, in Long Island, Westchester and NJ. NYC has 5 boroughs, the most suburban of them is Staten Island. The comparison between Brooklyn with its tons of diverse neighborhoods to one residential area of DC is laughable.


I does not matter what you "think should be a suburb". You have created some ridiculous criteria for "suburb" IN YOUR HEAD..... Brooklyn is the 1st suburb and it still is a suburb.

Brooklyn is a suburb get over it.

It's a borough, not a city.

So whether you live in CCDC or Brooklyn you are a suburbanite, even if it hurts your little feelings and destroys what you thought was your "city girl" identity.


Brooklyn was a city in its own right before unifying with Manhattan to become one of the boroughs. So its history is not one as a suburb.

Otherwise I do agree upper NW is not urban. Places like upper NW exist in other cities but are firmly in the suburbs. Like Brookline, which was a suburban town of Boston. If the city borders of DC were smaller, upper NW would be in Montgomery County and thus in the suburbs. As it is, upper NW is within the city of Washington, but it is not an urban area.


No Brooklyn, specifically Brooklyn Heights, is NY's 1st suburb. You can't change history because you think Brooklyn is hip and cool and feels like a city to you. It's not a city, its a suburb.

Also, if you are native to DC, when you moved to the burbs you moved to NW DC.
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Anonymous wrote:Yes CCDC is the suburbs.

So is Brooklyn


And Queens!


Queens feels like the suburbs. Most of Brooklyn does not until you get to Sheepshead Bay.


Brooklyn is literally called the 1st suburb in the US.

It’s not about feel it’s about it being the suburb.


Brooklyn and Queens offer very mixed housing options. NWDC is definitely a lot more residential than either of them overall. There are areas of Brooklyn that are similar in density to NWDC, but they are still better covered by subway access, closer and more frequent subway stops, more commercial strips in closer walking distance than NWDC, not as car oriented, as commercial establishments don't offer parking for the most part. There are clearly suburban parts of Queens that are far from subway, but overall Brooklyn and Queens have large swaths of rowhouse/apartment building density that is closer in nature to DC core areas and not residential NWDC. DC itself is about as dense as Brooklyn and Queens, it's a mid rise and rowhouse density. NWDC has a more urban feel only around its main streets near metro stations, but metro stations are very far apart IMHO to make the entirety of this area feel urban. It's more like a denser suburb, then a city.


CCDC and Brooklyn are both suburbs.


What? Brooklyn is huge, it could be a city of its own and has an infrastructure of a city, CCDC is a neighborhood. It seems like you either had never been to Brooklyn or your idea of it is based upon the stupid Sex and the city show where Miranda "escapes" to the burbs of Brooklyn for that back yard. Brooklyn is immense and much much more dense, it has multiple subway lines, Prospect Park, museums and theaters, office buildings and ferry stations and a well developed waterfront, highrise density and mostly rowhomes with some SFH areas as well. It has MANY neighborhoods. And technically Brooklyn IS NYC, it's an outer borough, not a suburb. NYC has suburbs further out, in Long Island, Westchester and NJ. NYC has 5 boroughs, the most suburban of them is Staten Island. The comparison between Brooklyn with its tons of diverse neighborhoods to one residential area of DC is laughable.


I does not matter what you "think should be a suburb". You have created some ridiculous criteria for "suburb" IN YOUR HEAD..... Brooklyn is the 1st suburb and it still is a suburb.

Brooklyn is a suburb get over it.

It's a borough, not a city.

So whether you live in CCDC or Brooklyn you are a suburbanite, even if it hurts your little feelings and destroys what you thought was your "city girl" identity.


Brooklyn was a city in its own right before unifying with Manhattan to become one of the boroughs. So its history is not one as a suburb.

Otherwise I do agree upper NW is not urban. Places like upper NW exist in other cities but are firmly in the suburbs. Like Brookline, which was a suburban town of Boston. If the city borders of DC were smaller, upper NW would be in Montgomery County and thus in the suburbs. As it is, upper NW is within the city of Washington, but it is not an urban area.


No Brooklyn, specifically Brooklyn Heights, is NY's 1st suburb. You can't change history because you think Brooklyn is hip and cool and feels like a city to you. It's not a city, its a suburb.

Also, if you are native to DC, when you moved to the burbs you moved to NW DC.


I don't know why anyone is taking you seriously.
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Is Woodley Park the burbs? I mean there are SFHs on half-acre lots within .25 of the metro station.
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Anonymous wrote:Yes CCDC is the suburbs.

So is Brooklyn


And Queens!


Queens feels like the suburbs. Most of Brooklyn does not until you get to Sheepshead Bay.


Brooklyn is literally called the 1st suburb in the US.

It’s not about feel it’s about it being the suburb.


Brooklyn and Queens offer very mixed housing options. NWDC is definitely a lot more residential than either of them overall. There are areas of Brooklyn that are similar in density to NWDC, but they are still better covered by subway access, closer and more frequent subway stops, more commercial strips in closer walking distance than NWDC, not as car oriented, as commercial establishments don't offer parking for the most part. There are clearly suburban parts of Queens that are far from subway, but overall Brooklyn and Queens have large swaths of rowhouse/apartment building density that is closer in nature to DC core areas and not residential NWDC. DC itself is about as dense as Brooklyn and Queens, it's a mid rise and rowhouse density. NWDC has a more urban feel only around its main streets near metro stations, but metro stations are very far apart IMHO to make the entirety of this area feel urban. It's more like a denser suburb, then a city.


CCDC and Brooklyn are both suburbs.


What? Brooklyn is huge, it could be a city of its own and has an infrastructure of a city, CCDC is a neighborhood. It seems like you either had never been to Brooklyn or your idea of it is based upon the stupid Sex and the city show where Miranda "escapes" to the burbs of Brooklyn for that back yard. Brooklyn is immense and much much more dense, it has multiple subway lines, Prospect Park, museums and theaters, office buildings and ferry stations and a well developed waterfront, highrise density and mostly rowhomes with some SFH areas as well. It has MANY neighborhoods. And technically Brooklyn IS NYC, it's an outer borough, not a suburb. NYC has suburbs further out, in Long Island, Westchester and NJ. NYC has 5 boroughs, the most suburban of them is Staten Island. The comparison between Brooklyn with its tons of diverse neighborhoods to one residential area of DC is laughable.


I does not matter what you "think should be a suburb". You have created some ridiculous criteria for "suburb" IN YOUR HEAD..... Brooklyn is the 1st suburb and it still is a suburb.

Brooklyn is a suburb get over it.

It's a borough, not a city.

So whether you live in CCDC or Brooklyn you are a suburbanite, even if it hurts your little feelings and destroys what you thought was your "city girl" identity.


Brooklyn was a city in its own right before unifying with Manhattan to become one of the boroughs. So its history is not one as a suburb.

Otherwise I do agree upper NW is not urban. Places like upper NW exist in other cities but are firmly in the suburbs. Like Brookline, which was a suburban town of Boston. If the city borders of DC were smaller, upper NW would be in Montgomery County and thus in the suburbs. As it is, upper NW is within the city of Washington, but it is not an urban area.


No Brooklyn, specifically Brooklyn Heights, is NY's 1st suburb. You can't change history because you think Brooklyn is hip and cool and feels like a city to you. It's not a city, its a suburb.

Also, if you are native to DC, when you moved to the burbs you moved to NW DC.


Google the history of Brooklyn. I've only been to Brooklyn a few times but even I know Brooklyn was once its own city.
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Anonymous wrote:Is Woodley Park the burbs? I mean there are SFHs on half-acre lots within .25 of the metro station.


The transition to urban to suburban is never truly a clearly marked line. It's a continuum. Most people understand that.

Mostly I'm just enjoying tweaking OP because they were clearly shook to the core by the idea that someone might think their neighborhood is mundane and suburban. Meanwhile CCMD is so obviously the suburbs to them. Ha. Silly.
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Anonymous wrote:Is Woodley Park the burbs? I mean there are SFHs on half-acre lots within .25 of the metro station.


There are SFH on . 25 acre lots in cheverly, no one would ever not call that a suburban dive
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Whoever just referred to Brooklyn as a suburb just lost all credibility. I lived in Brooklyn for 4 years (am originally from Manhattan) and moved to Rockville 3 years ago.

I was walking distance to Barclays Center and an insane amount of restaurants, bars, and retail. Brooklyn would be the 4th largest City in population if each borough of NYC was considered it's own city. For crying out loud almost 1 million more people live in Brooklyn than Manhattan.

I didn't own a car since the subway would take me wherever I needed to go. I was a 25 minute walk to work as my office was in Brooklyn (or 2 subway stops away and a 5 min walk from the subway). Brooklyn is as much of a city as anywhere in DC.

Side note, my favorite steakhouse in Brooklyn St. Anselm recently opened it's second location which is in DC, if anyone gets a chance to go, the food there is top notch.


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There's no point in comparing Brooklyn to DC. It will just make me depressed and shatter the illusion I have that I am still living in Brooklyn, but am just a shut in who only comes out to get my fresh direct order.
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Not all of Brooklyn is easily accessible by the subway. Nor is all of Queens.

People shouldn't be generalizing about these places.
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Only on DCUM people say “suburbs” in the same tone of voice as “tertiary syphilis”.
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Yes, upper NWDC is suburban feeling. But who the F cares? Why is this such a big deal?
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