Upper NW DC the "Suburbs"?

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, upper NWDC is suburban feeling. But who the F cares? Why is this such a big deal?

It's not really a big deal, per se, I just think it's really funny when people who live in Upper NW act like their neighborhood is soo much more OMGURBAN and walkable than someone who lives just over the border in MD or in somewhere like Clarendon or Lyon Village in Arlington just because their address includes OMGWashington, DC. It's funny especially because my neighborhood in Arlington is closer to downtown than many neighborhoods in Upper NW.

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Who cares what word describes where you live. If you’re close to things, but live in a neighborhood with homes, good for you, you’re probably urban. But the names don’t matter. Just enjoy where you live and who cares where you live or what defines your area. Some of the people here are so insecure.

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I was just talking about this with a friend, though, as we have a good friend living in DC who does make a big deal about it. I think it probably is because of the DC school system; it is so much worse than those in the close in suburbs, people (such as our friend) use the argument of “urban living” as a justification for living there and throwing money at privates, when it would probably make financial sense to move to MD/VA and have possibly more of a walkable lifestyle. Personally, I find the “urban/suburban” argument on par with the suv v minivan debate - at a certain point you just don’t care what people think and do what works for you. And sometimes I dream of living in the true suburbs out in Reston or Chantilly and having space from the neighbors!

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I don't really care about the labels but I do think it's funny that a friend of mine in DC has a walkscore of 48 and rags on the "suburbs". Thanks - I'll enjoy my walkscore of 85 (.5 to the Metro) in the suburbs.

And if we are getting picky about labels I really wouldn't even call DC a "city". It's just a sprawling town with inadequate transportation options.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Whoever just referred to Brooklyn as a suburb just lost all credibility. I lived in Brooklyn for 4 years (am originally from Manhattan) and moved to Rockville 3 years ago.

I was walking distance to Barclays Center and an insane amount of restaurants, bars, and retail. Brooklyn would be the 4th largest City in population if each borough of NYC was considered it's own city. For crying out loud almost 1 million more people live in Brooklyn than Manhattan.

I didn't own a car since the subway would take me wherever I needed to go. I was a 25 minute walk to work as my office was in Brooklyn (or 2 subway stops away and a 5 min walk from the subway). Brooklyn is as much of a city as anywhere in DC.

Side note, my favorite steakhouse in Brooklyn St. Anselm recently opened it's second location which is in DC, if anyone gets a chance to go, the food there is top notch.

Wow 4 years... it's a suburb honey. It has been for 200 years.

Being about to walk to a restaurant does not make it a city.

Everything you posted about Brooklyn is also true about Rockville.

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When I grew up in southern Brooklyn in the 60's, no one would have described where we lived as a suburb. That was Long Island. But we called taking the subway to Manhattan "going to the city", and the signs in the station mezzanines identified the platforms as "From City" and "To City".

The city of Rockville also thinks they are a city.

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Anonymous wrote:Whoever just referred to Brooklyn as a suburb just lost all credibility. I lived in Brooklyn for 4 years (am originally from Manhattan) and moved to Rockville 3 years ago.

I was walking distance to Barclays Center and an insane amount of restaurants, bars, and retail. Brooklyn would be the 4th largest City in population if each borough of NYC was considered it's own city. For crying out loud almost 1 million more people live in Brooklyn than Manhattan.

I didn't own a car since the subway would take me wherever I needed to go. I was a 25 minute walk to work as my office was in Brooklyn (or 2 subway stops away and a 5 min walk from the subway). Brooklyn is as much of a city as anywhere in DC.

Side note, my favorite steakhouse in Brooklyn St. Anselm recently opened it's second location which is in DC, if anyone gets a chance to go, the food there is top notch.

Wow 4 years... it's a suburb honey. It has been for 200 years.

Being about to walk to a restaurant does not make it a city.

Everything you posted about Brooklyn is also true about Rockville.

Free on Kindle... you can learn all about america's 1st suburb... https://www.amazon.com/Brooklyn-Heights-Rebirth-Americas-Definitive-ebook/dp/B0115D4KPG

When I grew up in southern Brooklyn in the 60's, no one would have described where we lived as a suburb. That was Long Island. But we called taking the subway to Manhattan "going to the city", and the signs in the station mezzanines identified the platforms as "From City" and "To City".

The city of Rockville also thinks they are a city.

According to the US census, they are an incorporated city. With 61,000 people, I think they certainly qualify as a small city. What's your issue?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, upper NWDC is suburban feeling. But who the F cares? Why is this such a big deal?

It's not really a big deal, per se, I just think it's really funny when people who live in Upper NW act like their neighborhood is soo much more OMGURBAN and walkable than someone who lives just over the border in MD or in somewhere like Clarendon or Lyon Village in Arlington just because their address includes OMGWashington, DC. It's funny especially because my neighborhood in Arlington is closer to downtown than many neighborhoods in Upper NW.

+1

Who cares what word describes where you live. If you’re close to things, but live in a neighborhood with homes, good for you, you’re probably urban. But the names don’t matter. Just enjoy where you live and who cares where you live or what defines your area. Some of the people here are so insecure.

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I was just talking about this with a friend, though, as we have a good friend living in DC who does make a big deal about it. I think it probably is because of the DC school system; it is so much worse than those in the close in suburbs, people (such as our friend) use the argument of “urban living” as a justification for living there and throwing money at privates, when it would probably make financial sense to move to MD/VA and have possibly more of a walkable lifestyle. Personally, I find the “urban/suburban” argument on par with the suv v minivan debate - at a certain point you just don’t care what people think and do what works for you. And sometimes I dream of living in the true suburbs out in Reston or Chantilly and having space from the neighbors!

+1

I don't really care about the labels but I do think it's funny that a friend of mine in DC has a walkscore of 48 and rags on the "suburbs". Thanks - I'll enjoy my walkscore of 85 (.5 to the Metro) in the suburbs.

And if we are getting picky about labels I really wouldn't even call DC a "city". It's just a sprawling town with inadequate transportation options.

Your friend has a walkscore of 48 in DC? Wow. I live in Gaithersburg and have a walk score of 84. My transit score is lower (35) but that's because I have to take the bus to the metro.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My 7000 square foot house on about a 30,000 sf lot is in NW DC and I don’t care what you call it. It’s PERFECT. Close to our school, close to downtown and close to our clubs.

And it’s in the suburbs.

Most suburban people love their situation.

Indeed. I love it. WE love it. You can label it and act as if your tawdry, concocted designations mean anything but they don't. Your preferences are yours alone. Find a way to meet them and otherwise shut up.

It is so odd how people think THEIR view is what matters and that they can otherwise set up strictures for others. So silly and childish.

But alas, I forgot to mention that I also have a place in NYC. A nice little 3 bedroom in Murray Hill. Label away again fools but be mindful that it is not your your silly characterization that matters, its the fact that our other place meets our needs perfectly.

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Anonymous wrote:My 7000 square foot house on about a 30,000 sf lot is in NW DC and I don’t care what you call it. It’s PERFECT. Close to our school, close to downtown and close to our clubs.

And it’s in the suburbs.

Most suburban people love their situation.

Indeed. I love it. WE love it. You can label it and act as if your tawdry, concocted designations mean anything but they don't. Your preferences are yours alone. Find a way to meet them and otherwise shut up.

It is so odd how people think THEIR view is what matters and that they can otherwise set up strictures for others. So silly and childish.

But alas, I forgot to mention that I also have a place in NYC. A nice little 3 bedroom in Murray Hill. Label away again fools but be mindful that it is not your your silly characterization that matters, its the fact that our other place meets our needs perfectly.

You talk like a rich villain in a bad 80s movie, about to flip your mink over your shoulder and tap your cigarette holder as you turn and walk away after a sick burn.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My 7000 square foot house on about a 30,000 sf lot is in NW DC and I don’t care what you call it. It’s PERFECT. Close to our school, close to downtown and close to our clubs.

And it’s in the suburbs.

Most suburban people love their situation.

Indeed. I love it. WE love it. You can label it and act as if your tawdry, concocted designations mean anything but they don't. Your preferences are yours alone. Find a way to meet them and otherwise shut up.

It is so odd how people think THEIR view is what matters and that they can otherwise set up strictures for others. So silly and childish.

But alas, I forgot to mention that I also have a place in NYC. A nice little 3 bedroom in Murray Hill. Label away again fools but be mindful that it is not your your silly characterization that matters, its the fact that our other place meets our needs perfectly.

You talk like a rich villain in a bad 80s movie, about to flip your mink over your shoulder and tap your cigarette holder as you turn and walk away after a sick burn.

I do resemble that remark to some degree. But the discussion of my various homes is sort of a joke - what truly scares me is how much people I suppose are younger than me think they can "label up" others and attempt to impose their views and judgments. Very fascist to me. This whole thread is scary in that regard.

As far as I see it, the only thing that matters is whether what you are doing fits YOUR BILL.

In my case, NW DC, Murray Hill and a foggy rock away off shore cover my needs perfectly. No one else's views matter in the slightest.

Probably the difference between my Gen X self and them.

[Anonymous]

Agree with Murray Hill PP. The millennial come-latelys are behind so much of this sneering “upper caucasia” / your District address is SUBURBAN” trope.

I don’t understand why it’s so exciting to you to think you’ve put me in my rightful place for being of european ancestry and living in a SFH with no attached walls*. Also, it’s good to hate me early, and often, for being >5 years older than you.

*the same palpable venom doesn’t apply to their millennial friends who buy SFHs with identical or worse WalkScore/ transit score in Brookland/Ft Totten/woodbridge/16th st heights

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, upper NWDC is suburban feeling. But who the F cares? Why is this such a big deal?

It's not really a big deal, per se, I just think it's really funny when people who live in Upper NW act like their neighborhood is soo much more OMGURBAN and walkable than someone who lives just over the border in MD or in somewhere like Clarendon or Lyon Village in Arlington just because their address includes OMGWashington, DC. It's funny especially because my neighborhood in Arlington is closer to downtown than many neighborhoods in Upper NW.

+1

Who cares what word describes where you live. If you’re close to things, but live in a neighborhood with homes, good for you, you’re probably urban. But the names don’t matter. Just enjoy where you live and who cares where you live or what defines your area. Some of the people here are so insecure.

+2

I was just talking about this with a friend, though, as we have a good friend living in DC who does make a big deal about it. I think it probably is because of the DC school system; it is so much worse than those in the close in suburbs, people (such as our friend) use the argument of “urban living” as a justification for living there and throwing money at privates, when it would probably make financial sense to move to MD/VA and have possibly more of a walkable lifestyle. Personally, I find the “urban/suburban” argument on par with the suv v minivan debate - at a certain point you just don’t care what people think and do what works for you. And sometimes I dream of living in the true suburbs out in Reston or Chantilly and having space from the neighbors!

+1

I don't really care about the labels but I do think it's funny that a friend of mine in DC has a walkscore of 48 and rags on the "suburbs". Thanks - I'll enjoy my walkscore of 85 (.5 to the Metro) in the suburbs.

And if we are getting picky about labels I really wouldn't even call DC a "city". It's just a sprawling town with inadequate transportation options.

Your friend has a walkscore of 48 in DC? Wow. I live in Gaithersburg and have a walk score of 84. My transit score is lower (35) but that's because I have to take the bus to the metro.

I'd rather jump off a bridge than live in Gaithersburg. I'm in DC with a 99 Walk Score.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, upper NWDC is suburban feeling. But who the F cares? Why is this such a big deal?

It's not really a big deal, per se, I just think it's really funny when people who live in Upper NW act like their neighborhood is soo much more OMGURBAN and walkable than someone who lives just over the border in MD or in somewhere like Clarendon or Lyon Village in Arlington just because their address includes OMGWashington, DC. It's funny especially because my neighborhood in Arlington is closer to downtown than many neighborhoods in Upper NW.

+1

Who cares what word describes where you live. If you’re close to things, but live in a neighborhood with homes, good for you, you’re probably urban. But the names don’t matter. Just enjoy where you live and who cares where you live or what defines your area. Some of the people here are so insecure.

+2

I was just talking about this with a friend, though, as we have a good friend living in DC who does make a big deal about it. I think it probably is because of the DC school system; it is so much worse than those in the close in suburbs, people (such as our friend) use the argument of “urban living” as a justification for living there and throwing money at privates, when it would probably make financial sense to move to MD/VA and have possibly more of a walkable lifestyle. Personally, I find the “urban/suburban” argument on par with the suv v minivan debate - at a certain point you just don’t care what people think and do what works for you. And sometimes I dream of living in the true suburbs out in Reston or Chantilly and having space from the neighbors!

+1

I don't really care about the labels but I do think it's funny that a friend of mine in DC has a walkscore of 48 and rags on the "suburbs". Thanks - I'll enjoy my walkscore of 85 (.5 to the Metro) in the suburbs.

And if we are getting picky about labels I really wouldn't even call DC a "city". It's just a sprawling town with inadequate transportation options.

Your friend has a walkscore of 48 in DC? Wow. I live in Gaithersburg and have a walk score of 84. My transit score is lower (35) but that's because I have to take the bus to the metro.

I'd rather jump off a bridge than live in Gaithersburg. I'm in DC with a 99 Walk Score.

I'm the Gaithersburg PP. I used to live in DC with a 99 walk score. We moved out here when we had a kid and love it. My guess is you've never been here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, upper NWDC is suburban feeling. But who the F cares? Why is this such a big deal?

It's not really a big deal, per se, I just think it's really funny when people who live in Upper NW act like their neighborhood is soo much more OMGURBAN and walkable than someone who lives just over the border in MD or in somewhere like Clarendon or Lyon Village in Arlington just because their address includes OMGWashington, DC. It's funny especially because my neighborhood in Arlington is closer to downtown than many neighborhoods in Upper NW.

+1

Who cares what word describes where you live. If you’re close to things, but live in a neighborhood with homes, good for you, you’re probably urban. But the names don’t matter. Just enjoy where you live and who cares where you live or what defines your area. Some of the people here are so insecure.

+2

I was just talking about this with a friend, though, as we have a good friend living in DC who does make a big deal about it. I think it probably is because of the DC school system; it is so much worse than those in the close in suburbs, people (such as our friend) use the argument of “urban living” as a justification for living there and throwing money at privates, when it would probably make financial sense to move to MD/VA and have possibly more of a walkable lifestyle. Personally, I find the “urban/suburban” argument on par with the suv v minivan debate - at a certain point you just don’t care what people think and do what works for you. And sometimes I dream of living in the true suburbs out in Reston or Chantilly and having space from the neighbors!

+1

I don't really care about the labels but I do think it's funny that a friend of mine in DC has a walkscore of 48 and rags on the "suburbs". Thanks - I'll enjoy my walkscore of 85 (.5 to the Metro) in the suburbs.

And if we are getting picky about labels I really wouldn't even call DC a "city". It's just a sprawling town with inadequate transportation options.

Your friend has a walkscore of 48 in DC? Wow. I live in Gaithersburg and have a walk score of 84. My transit score is lower (35) but that's because I have to take the bus to the metro.

Yup. Off of Arizona. I believe that area is considered Kent. Sure seems "suburban" when I drive up there for playdates.

I should say our kids are friends more than we are friends.

[Anonymous]

You know what is *really* the suburbs? The outer parts of Phoenix.

I looked up my in-laws' address in Chandler, AZ. They have a walk score of 1 and a transit score of 0.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You know what is *really* the suburbs? The outer parts of Phoenix.

I looked up my in-laws' address in Chandler, AZ. They have a walk score of 1 and a transit score of 0.

Sounds like my kind of town.

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Anonymous wrote:You know what is *really* the suburbs? The outer parts of Phoenix.

I looked up my in-laws' address in Chandler, AZ. They have a walk score of 1 and a transit score of 0.

Sounds like my kind of town.

If you like mind-numbingly boring subdivisions where the closest retail is a strip mall 30 minutes away then, yes! It would be your kind of town.

In contrast, my parents' address in Manhattan has a 100 walk and transit score.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You know what is *really* the suburbs? The outer parts of Phoenix.

I looked up my in-laws' address in Chandler, AZ. They have a walk score of 1 and a transit score of 0.

Sounds like my kind of town.

If you like mind-numbingly boring subdivisions where the closest retail is a strip mall 30 minutes away then, yes! It would be your kind of town.

In contrast, my parents' address in Manhattan has a 100 walk and transit score.

I was equally bored in DC as the suburbs. That fact that I could walk to Chipotle didn't make anything about my daily life more exciting.