Mob attack on man entering DC Hilton last Sunday

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Anonymous wrote:Too bad the victim wasn't armed. Two or three of those kids getting dropped by their intended victim might change some minds about whether doing stuff like this is a good idea.

Yes, if only all potential victims would just arm themselves, this world would be a much safer place.

And certainly they would not hit any bystanders, what with it being in front of a big hotel in a busy neighborhood. Definitely safer.

Because we hear so often about *lawfully* armed citizens accidentally shooting innocent bystanders in self defense shootings, right? /s


You have the resources of the entire interwebz at your disposal. Find for us just 3 incidents - just three - where a person in public with a *legally carried* gun shot a innocent bystander or the wrong person by mistake.

Go. Start searching. Let us know what you turn up. If it happens as often as you imply, it should be a quick task.

We'll wait.

are you kidding? there are oodles of unintended shootings by people carrying legally. it literally happens every day.

Then please cite three examples where innocent bystanders have been shot by people carrying legally and using that gun in a self defense shooting. If it happens "every day", as you suggest, it should be very easy to provide three such instances.

Will you back up your assertion with actual data?

Or will you stick with meaningless anecdotal tripe?

The Costco shooting by a POLICE OFFICER. you really have a short memory. If even a licensed police officer can't avoid shooting civilians in "self defense" then what makes you think the average person could?

Yeah right

A police officer is NOT a private citizen with a CCW permit. A police officer is an authority figure of the state. On duty, or off. Sworn officers are not private citizens.


Pathetic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Too bad the victim wasn't armed. Two or three of those kids getting dropped by their intended victim might change some minds about whether doing stuff like this is a good idea.

Yes, if only all potential victims would just arm themselves, this world would be a much safer place.

NP. No need to be dramatic. But PP is right - one of these days, these punks are going to go after the wrong person. It would actually be refreshing if that happened because that might be the most effective deterrent.

Kids get involved in violence because they have no hope. Shooting a few of them is not going to deter jack shit. You need to show compassion. Violence begets more violence.

The ones who "can't be deterred" are the ones who most need to be shot.

I reserve my compassion for the victims of crime, not for the criminals, who deserve only swift and decisive justice.

I agree what happened to this guy is absolutely horrible--but just wanted to point out that for many of these kids, they are both victims and perpetrators. That's what happens in many rough neighborhoods around DC--lots of trauma in this population.

No.

In this instance, they are 100% perpetrators, 0% victims. There can be no compassion for them with respect to this attack.

Correct, there is no compassion for the instigators of this attack, I agree. They should be found and prosecuted. Yet if you purport to care about how to reduce crime, or if you even just want to understand it, then yeah, you are going to have to have something like compassion. Meaning - you have to understand the actual causes and solutions, and not just stop at "it's the culture and lack of fathers!"

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Anonymous wrote:Too bad the victim wasn't armed. Two or three of those kids getting dropped by their intended victim might change some minds about whether doing stuff like this is a good idea.

Yes, if only all potential victims would just arm themselves, this world would be a much safer place.

And certainly they would not hit any bystanders, what with it being in front of a big hotel in a busy neighborhood. Definitely safer.

Because we hear so often about *lawfully* armed citizens accidentally shooting innocent bystanders in self defense shootings, right? /s


You have the resources of the entire interwebz at your disposal. Find for us just 3 incidents - just three - where a person in public with a *legally carried* gun shot a innocent bystander or the wrong person by mistake.

Go. Start searching. Let us know what you turn up. If it happens as often as you imply, it should be a quick task.

We'll wait.

are you kidding? there are oodles of unintended shootings by people carrying legally. it literally happens every day.

Then please cite three examples where innocent bystanders have been shot by people carrying legally and using that gun in a self defense shooting. If it happens "every day", as you suggest, it should be very easy to provide three such instances.

Will you back up your assertion with actual data?

Or will you stick with meaningless anecdotal tripe?

The Costco shooting by a POLICE OFFICER. you really have a short memory. If even a licensed police officer can't avoid shooting civilians in "self defense" then what makes you think the average person could?

Yeah right

A police officer is NOT a private citizen with a CCW permit. A police officer is an authority figure of the state. On duty, or off. Sworn officers are not private citizens.


Pathetic.

huh? you make no sense unless you're suggesting that police officers have the right to shoot innocent civilians. if police officers can't even avoid shooting civilians in self defense, then why should some rando dude with a permit?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You know.... if these teens had been wearing MAGA hats instead of skull caps, this video would be leading the hour on every national news station. It really is pathetic.

Cut the BS. It is a crime regardless of hats or skin color.

NP. If ten white kids attacked a black couple like this, it would be HUGE NATIONAL NEWS, spark conversations on collective white guilt, and lead to riots and looting.

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Anonymous wrote:Too bad the victim wasn't armed. Two or three of those kids getting dropped by their intended victim might change some minds about whether doing stuff like this is a good idea.

Yes, if only all potential victims would just arm themselves, this world would be a much safer place.

And certainly they would not hit any bystanders, what with it being in front of a big hotel in a busy neighborhood. Definitely safer.

Because we hear so often about *lawfully* armed citizens accidentally shooting innocent bystanders in self defense shootings, right? /s


You have the resources of the entire interwebz at your disposal. Find for us just 3 incidents - just three - where a person in public with a *legally carried* gun shot a innocent bystander or the wrong person by mistake.

Go. Start searching. Let us know what you turn up. If it happens as often as you imply, it should be a quick task.

We'll wait.

are you kidding? there are oodles of unintended shootings by people carrying legally. it literally happens every day.

Then please cite three examples where innocent bystanders have been shot by people carrying legally and using that gun in a self defense shooting. If it happens "every day", as you suggest, it should be very easy to provide three such instances.

Will you back up your assertion with actual data?

Or will you stick with meaningless anecdotal tripe?

The Costco shooting by a POLICE OFFICER. you really have a short memory. If even a licensed police officer can't avoid shooting civilians in "self defense" then what makes you think the average person could?

On sheer hair-splitting technicalities, that shooting had no "innocent bystanders". The only people shot by the police officer were those involved in the confrontation.

It was also very likely a criminal act by the officer, but that isn't germane to the point being debated

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If I’m reading this thread correctly 99.999% of the posters who are getting their jollies off bashing all the black youth in DC don’t even live in the District and are too frightened to step foot in the District so, no disrespect, but f__k their opinion ons. Y’all don’t live here, y’all don’t come here, and considering your xenophobic attitudes y’all ain’t welcome here so...

Yeah, these "poor black youth" in the video. They're the victims.

-- long time DC resident

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Anonymous wrote:Too bad the victim wasn't armed. Two or three of those kids getting dropped by their intended victim might change some minds about whether doing stuff like this is a good idea.

Yes, if only all potential victims would just arm themselves, this world would be a much safer place.

And certainly they would not hit any bystanders, what with it being in front of a big hotel in a busy neighborhood. Definitely safer.

Because we hear so often about *lawfully* armed citizens accidentally shooting innocent bystanders in self defense shootings, right? /s


You have the resources of the entire interwebz at your disposal. Find for us just 3 incidents - just three - where a person in public with a *legally carried* gun shot a innocent bystander or the wrong person by mistake.

Go. Start searching. Let us know what you turn up. If it happens as often as you imply, it should be a quick task.

We'll wait.

are you kidding? there are oodles of unintended shootings by people carrying legally. it literally happens every day.

Then please cite three examples where innocent bystanders have been shot by people carrying legally and using that gun in a self defense shooting. If it happens "every day", as you suggest, it should be very easy to provide three such instances.

Will you back up your assertion with actual data?

Or will you stick with meaningless anecdotal tripe?

The Costco shooting by a POLICE OFFICER. you really have a short memory. If even a licensed police officer can't avoid shooting civilians in "self defense" then what makes you think the average person could?

On sheer hair-splitting technicalities, that shooting had no "innocent bystanders". The only people shot by the police officer were those involved in the confrontation.

It was also very likely a criminal act by the officer, but that isn't germane to the point being debated

Here's some more reading for you:

https://www.reddit.com/r/bad_dgu/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Too bad the victim wasn't armed. Two or three of those kids getting dropped by their intended victim might change some minds about whether doing stuff like this is a good idea.

Yes, if only all potential victims would just arm themselves, this world would be a much safer place.

And certainly they would not hit any bystanders, what with it being in front of a big hotel in a busy neighborhood. Definitely safer.

Because we hear so often about *lawfully* armed citizens accidentally shooting innocent bystanders in self defense shootings, right? /s


You have the resources of the entire interwebz at your disposal. Find for us just 3 incidents - just three - where a person in public with a *legally carried* gun shot a innocent bystander or the wrong person by mistake.

Go. Start searching. Let us know what you turn up. If it happens as often as you imply, it should be a quick task.

We'll wait.

are you kidding? there are oodles of unintended shootings by people carrying legally. it literally happens every day.

Then please cite three examples where innocent bystanders have been shot by people carrying legally and using that gun in a self defense shooting. If it happens "every day", as you suggest, it should be very easy to provide three such instances.

Will you back up your assertion with actual data?

Or will you stick with meaningless anecdotal tripe?

The Costco shooting by a POLICE OFFICER. you really have a short memory. If even a licensed police officer can't avoid shooting civilians in "self defense" then what makes you think the average person could?

Yeah right

A police officer is NOT a private citizen with a CCW permit. A police officer is an authority figure of the state. On duty, or off. Sworn officers are not private citizens.


Pathetic.

huh? you make no sense unless you're suggesting that police officers have the right to shoot innocent civilians. if police officers can't even avoid shooting civilians in self defense, then why should some rando dude with a permit?

The only people shot by the officer were those in the argument with him. No one else was shot.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If I’m reading this thread correctly 99.999% of the posters who are getting their jollies off bashing all the black youth in DC don’t even live in the District and are too frightened to step foot in the District so, no disrespect, but f__k their opinion ons. Y’all don’t live here, y’all don’t come here, and considering your xenophobic attitudes y’all ain’t welcome here so...

Yeah, these "poor black youth" in the video. They're the victims.

-- long time DC resident

No
But the dozens of kids you and your ilk call the cops on for no reason other than their pigmentation will be victims.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PoPville comments on this news item remain at zero and the “Comment” button is missing.

Of course. He treats any issue that might elicit reactions counter to the progressive racial narrative like a third rail.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Too bad the victim wasn't armed. Two or three of those kids getting dropped by their intended victim might change some minds about whether doing stuff like this is a good idea.

Yes, if only all potential victims would just arm themselves, this world would be a much safer place.

And certainly they would not hit any bystanders, what with it being in front of a big hotel in a busy neighborhood. Definitely safer.

Because we hear so often about *lawfully* armed citizens accidentally shooting innocent bystanders in self defense shootings, right? /s


You have the resources of the entire interwebz at your disposal. Find for us just 3 incidents - just three - where a person in public with a *legally carried* gun shot a innocent bystander or the wrong person by mistake.

Go. Start searching. Let us know what you turn up. If it happens as often as you imply, it should be a quick task.

We'll wait.

are you kidding? there are oodles of unintended shootings by people carrying legally. it literally happens every day.

Then please cite three examples where innocent bystanders have been shot by people carrying legally and using that gun in a self defense shooting. If it happens "every day", as you suggest, it should be very easy to provide three such instances.

Will you back up your assertion with actual data?

Or will you stick with meaningless anecdotal tripe?

The Costco shooting by a POLICE OFFICER. you really have a short memory. If even a licensed police officer can't avoid shooting civilians in "self defense" then what makes you think the average person could?

On sheer hair-splitting technicalities, that shooting had no "innocent bystanders". The only people shot by the police officer were those involved in the confrontation.

It was also very likely a criminal act by the officer, but that isn't germane to the point being debated

No, they were bystanders.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Too bad the victim wasn't armed. Two or three of those kids getting dropped by their intended victim might change some minds about whether doing stuff like this is a good idea.

Yes, if only all potential victims would just arm themselves, this world would be a much safer place.

And certainly they would not hit any bystanders, what with it being in front of a big hotel in a busy neighborhood. Definitely safer.

Because we hear so often about *lawfully* armed citizens accidentally shooting innocent bystanders in self defense shootings, right? /s


You have the resources of the entire interwebz at your disposal. Find for us just 3 incidents - just three - where a person in public with a *legally carried* gun shot a innocent bystander or the wrong person by mistake.

Go. Start searching. Let us know what you turn up. If it happens as often as you imply, it should be a quick task.

We'll wait.

are you kidding? there are oodles of unintended shootings by people carrying legally. it literally happens every day.

Then please cite three examples where innocent bystanders have been shot by people carrying legally and using that gun in a self defense shooting. If it happens "every day", as you suggest, it should be very easy to provide three such instances.

Will you back up your assertion with actual data?

Or will you stick with meaningless anecdotal tripe?

The Costco shooting by a POLICE OFFICER. you really have a short memory. If even a licensed police officer can't avoid shooting civilians in "self defense" then what makes you think the average person could?

On sheer hair-splitting technicalities, that shooting had no "innocent bystanders". The only people shot by the police officer were those involved in the confrontation.

It was also very likely a criminal act by the officer, but that isn't germane to the point being debated

Here's some more reading for you:

https://www.reddit.com/r/bad_dgu/

Reddit is your "source" ?!?!


Hahahahahahahahaha

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Too bad the victim wasn't armed. Two or three of those kids getting dropped by their intended victim might change some minds about whether doing stuff like this is a good idea.

Yes, if only all potential victims would just arm themselves, this world would be a much safer place.

And certainly they would not hit any bystanders, what with it being in front of a big hotel in a busy neighborhood. Definitely safer.

Because we hear so often about *lawfully* armed citizens accidentally shooting innocent bystanders in self defense shootings, right? /s


You have the resources of the entire interwebz at your disposal. Find for us just 3 incidents - just three - where a person in public with a *legally carried* gun shot a innocent bystander or the wrong person by mistake.

Go. Start searching. Let us know what you turn up. If it happens as often as you imply, it should be a quick task.

We'll wait.

are you kidding? there are oodles of unintended shootings by people carrying legally. it literally happens every day.

Then please cite three examples where innocent bystanders have been shot by people carrying legally and using that gun in a self defense shooting. If it happens "every day", as you suggest, it should be very easy to provide three such instances.

Will you back up your assertion with actual data?

Or will you stick with meaningless anecdotal tripe?

The Costco shooting by a POLICE OFFICER. you really have a short memory. If even a licensed police officer can't avoid shooting civilians in "self defense" then what makes you think the average person could?

Yeah right

A police officer is NOT a private citizen with a CCW permit. A police officer is an authority figure of the state. On duty, or off. Sworn officers are not private citizens.


Pathetic.

huh? you make no sense unless you're suggesting that police officers have the right to shoot innocent civilians. if police officers can't even avoid shooting civilians in self defense, then why should some rando dude with a permit?

The only people shot by the officer were those in the argument with him. No one else was shot.

lol, so now you can shoot everyone you get into an argument with? wtf. you're not making a good argument for yourself.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Too bad the victim wasn't armed. Two or three of those kids getting dropped by their intended victim might change some minds about whether doing stuff like this is a good idea.

Yes, if only all potential victims would just arm themselves, this world would be a much safer place.

And certainly they would not hit any bystanders, what with it being in front of a big hotel in a busy neighborhood. Definitely safer.

Because we hear so often about *lawfully* armed citizens accidentally shooting innocent bystanders in self defense shootings, right? /s


You have the resources of the entire interwebz at your disposal. Find for us just 3 incidents - just three - where a person in public with a *legally carried* gun shot a innocent bystander or the wrong person by mistake.

Go. Start searching. Let us know what you turn up. If it happens as often as you imply, it should be a quick task.

We'll wait.

are you kidding? there are oodles of unintended shootings by people carrying legally. it literally happens every day.

Then please cite three examples where innocent bystanders have been shot by people carrying legally and using that gun in a self defense shooting. If it happens "every day", as you suggest, it should be very easy to provide three such instances.

Will you back up your assertion with actual data?

Or will you stick with meaningless anecdotal tripe?

The Costco shooting by a POLICE OFFICER. you really have a short memory. If even a licensed police officer can't avoid shooting civilians in "self defense" then what makes you think the average person could?

On sheer hair-splitting technicalities, that shooting had no "innocent bystanders". The only people shot by the police officer were those involved in the confrontation.

It was also very likely a criminal act by the officer, but that isn't germane to the point being debated

Here's some more reading for you:

https://www.reddit.com/r/bad_dgu/

Reddit is your "source" ?!?!


Hahahahahahahahaha

those are all links to news articles.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Because of the racism, duh. The white nationalists who are jumping on this as a way to claim that black people are animals who should be shot or run from in fear.

Are you defending a bunch of teenage thugs for attacking a gay black man outside of a hotel just because they are black? Are you accusing others who find this unacceptable of being racists?? SMH.

No, that never happened. Just in your racist imagination.

So the video is just make believe and that DC is the land of lollipops, puppies and unicorns? Phew! Heading down to DC right now!

Nobody said that. not a SINGLE person has denied what happened or argued that prosecuting the kids would be racist. Not a single person.

Again, what they reacted to was the white nationalists saying that we should run away from/shoot all black people.

As a matter of actual fact, violent crime is down 2% so far this year in DC.

Police keep their own records; they lie and juke the data.