Mackenzie Lueck

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I have done the sugar daddy/baby relationship. I am a female. I always let someone know where I am going, as much as I know about the man and when they should expect me to be home. We always meet in a public place first. Then it’s usually their house, hotel, or a car (fancy, I know). It’s a dangerous lifestyle but the thrill and the money was great. It is also VERY addicting. You want more fast cash. You want to be wanted. You want the sex. I feel bad for her but I am not shocked at all.

That's basically being a hooker. Instead of standing on a street corner, you advertise yourself online to strange men who are looking for sex. You might meet at Starbucks but within the hour you are probably somewhere having sex in exchange for cash, drugs, whatever else might be worth it to you.

It's sad and sordid. And very, very dangerous. Mackenzie had a job, a nice family, plenty of friends, she was beautiful, healthy and she was going to be graduating from college soon. Now she's dead, her body mutilated and burned into bits and pieces.... and for what? How much exactly did she think she was going to make by having sex with that guy?

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[Anonymous]

Google the Seeking Arrangement website. It'll bring up all kinds of articles about how they market themselves to the college crowd as an acceptable way to pay for college. Here is an article that describes it, as well as the the marketing page for Seeking Arrangement.

https://www.elle.com/life-love/a26022761/how-to-sugar-baby-seeking-arrangement/
https://www.seeking.com/sugar-baby-university/usa

[Anonymous]

Where was it confirmed that she was an escort?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where was it confirmed that she was an escort?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7185285/Missing-University-Utah-student-Mackenzie-Lueck-sugar-baby-sought-men-35.html

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The girl was meeting up with her third Sugar Daddy at 3PM in a park.

If she'd been a proper prostitute she would have had someone acting as her 'pimp' for protection. At the very least she could have been smart enough to only meet up with a SD in broad daylight in a public place.

A PARK at 3AM? She was either desperate for money or drugs or both.

3 am or 3 pm? We need to know so we can know HOW MUCH to blame the victim. Thanks.

Why do people like you try to misrepresent being cautious with assigning blame? There is absolutely no denying that a single man or woman walking anywhere alone at 3 a.m. is taking a far bigger chance than walking anywhere at 3 p.m. Definitely true in a large city.

I have a friend who insists "women have a right to go wherever they want or get drunk at a frat party and have noting happen to them". Yes, nobody has a right to hurt you, but a reasonable person trys to stay out of harms way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have done the sugar daddy/baby relationship. I am a female. I always let someone know where I am going, as much as I know about the man and when they should expect me to be home. We always meet in a public place first. Then it’s usually their house, hotel, or a car (fancy, I know). It’s a dangerous lifestyle but the thrill and the money was great. It is also VERY addicting. You want more fast cash. You want to be wanted. You want the sex. I feel bad for her but I am not shocked at all.

That's basically being a hooker. Instead of standing on a street corner, you advertise yourself online to strange men who are looking for sex. You might meet at Starbucks but within the hour you are probably somewhere having sex in exchange for cash, drugs, whatever else might be worth it to you.

It's sad and sordid. And very, very dangerous. Mackenzie had a job, a nice family, plenty of friends, she was beautiful, healthy and she was going to be graduating from college soon. Now she's dead, her body mutilated and burned into bits and pieces.... and for what? How much exactly did she think she was going to make by having sex with that guy?

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Nobody knows what she was meeting him for. Whether it was a sugar daddy or basically a dating website connection. The addiction part is definitely true.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Parents really need to warn their kids about “potential” bad people.
“Everyone is really good inside.” is a very bad way to raise children. No clue how she was raised, but I see too many parents raising their children to trust everyone. Maybe he somehow got her to feel sorry for him. No clue why she thought he was trustworthy, and it was safe to be alone with him.
So many girls are getting raped and taken advantage of. I think most simply don’t tell their parents because it’s too painful.
Of course it’s easier to scream it’s HIS fault, which is ABSOLUTELY true, but your daughter is still the one who gets raped. No parent wants that!!!!!
Tell your daughter not to allow herself to ever be alone and secluded with a boy/man that you don’t know.
Girls are growing up very naive with regard to their personal safety. This has to change. They’re extremely vulnerable during their teens and 20’s, wanting to feel like an adult. Show them how *you* take precautions to protect your safety, and don’t drink and drive. Tell them NOT to drink at all with guys who may turn evil, and take advantage of them.

Who is raising their kids like this? I teach my teen to travel in groups/with a buddy, be aware of her surroundings, stranger danger (especially leering men), etc. I don't think I'm outside of the norm.

Good question.

I taught my daughter and say over and over:
-- never accept a drink from a guy
-- never take your eye off your drink
-- one girl is the designated non-drinker who keeps track of everyone else
-- always look aware in a parking lot
-- lock your car door immediately
-- when you get to a light, leave enough space between your car and the one on front of you so that you can get away if needed

[Anonymous]

Who would think this guy had two nickels to rub together? He lives in Utah. Did he pay for the plane flight? (No.) That's what makes this Sugar Daddy story hard to buy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who would think this guy had two nickels to rub together? He lives in Utah. Did he pay for the plane flight? (No.) That's what makes this Sugar Daddy story hard to buy.

He probably lied and said he was some tech entrepreneur or attorney from out of town and was just in the area for a few weeks for work. And she believed him, because she’s 23 years old and ultimately pretty sheltered despite her wannabe “sugar baby” lifestyle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have done the sugar daddy/baby relationship. I am a female. I always let someone know where I am going, as much as I know about the man and when they should expect me to be home. We always meet in a public place first. Then it’s usually their house, hotel, or a car (fancy, I know). It’s a dangerous lifestyle but the thrill and the money was great. It is also VERY addicting. You want more fast cash. You want to be wanted. You want the sex. I feel bad for her but I am not shocked at all.

That's basically being a hooker. Instead of standing on a street corner, you advertise yourself online to strange men who are looking for sex. You might meet at Starbucks but within the hour you are probably somewhere having sex in exchange for cash, drugs, whatever else might be worth it to you.

It's sad and sordid. And very, very dangerous. Mackenzie had a job, a nice family, plenty of friends, she was beautiful, healthy and she was going to be graduating from college soon. Now she's dead, her body mutilated and burned into bits and pieces.... and for what? How much exactly did she think she was going to make by having sex with that guy?

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Nobody knows what she was meeting him for. Whether it was a sugar daddy or basically a dating website connection. The addiction part is definitely true.

Normal people on normal dating websites don't agree to meet at 3am in dark, isolated park. If they had an established relationship why wouldn't she just get dropped off at his place from the get go? I think she was meeting that guy for the first time and I would not be at all surprised to hear that this was a sex for drugs scenario. Addiction makes people do some desperate things.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who would think this guy had two nickels to rub together? He lives in Utah. Did he pay for the plane flight? (No.) That's what makes this Sugar Daddy story hard to buy.

He probably lied and said he was some tech entrepreneur or attorney from out of town and was just in the area for a few weeks for work. And she believed him, because she’s 23 years old and ultimately pretty sheltered despite her wannabe “sugar baby” lifestyle.

If she had googled him she would have seen nothing to cause her alarm. The age difference between them wasn't that great - she was 23, he 31. As far as I'm aware he didn't have a criminal history, by all appearances he really did seem like a run of the mill computer geek. Mackenzie obviously felt comfortable letting her guard down with him.

The business of meeting in the park at 3am with her baggage in tow indicates that there was a level of desperation involved in this for Mackenzie. She either really, really needed money or drugs or both.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who would think this guy had two nickels to rub together? He lives in Utah. Did he pay for the plane flight? (No.) That's what makes this Sugar Daddy story hard to buy.

He probably lied and said he was some tech entrepreneur or attorney from out of town and was just in the area for a few weeks for work. And she believed him, because she’s 23 years old and ultimately pretty sheltered despite her wannabe “sugar baby” lifestyle.

If she had googled him she would have seen nothing to cause her alarm. The age difference between them wasn't that great - she was 23, he 31. As far as I'm aware he didn't have a criminal history, by all appearances he really did seem like a run of the mill computer geek. Mackenzie obviously felt comfortable letting her guard down with him.

The business of meeting in the park at 3am with her baggage in tow indicates that there was a level of desperation involved in this for Mackenzie. She either really, really needed money or drugs or both.

She was on her way back from her grandmother's funeral. Someone paid for that plane ticket. Should have just asked them for some cash.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Who would think this guy had two nickels to rub together? He lives in Utah. Did he pay for the plane flight? (No.) That's what makes this Sugar Daddy story hard to buy.

There is serious money in Utah. You're clueless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who would think this guy had two nickels to rub together? He lives in Utah. Did he pay for the plane flight? (No.) That's what makes this Sugar Daddy story hard to buy.

He probably lied and said he was some tech entrepreneur or attorney from out of town and was just in the area for a few weeks for work. And she believed him, because she’s 23 years old and ultimately pretty sheltered despite her wannabe “sugar baby” lifestyle.

If she had googled him she would have seen nothing to cause her alarm. The age difference between them wasn't that great - she was 23, he 31. As far as I'm aware he didn't have a criminal history, by all appearances he really did seem like a run of the mill computer geek. Mackenzie obviously felt comfortable letting her guard down with him.

The business of meeting in the park at 3am with her baggage in tow indicates that there was a level of desperation involved in this for Mackenzie. She either really, really needed money or drugs or both.

She was on her way back from her grandmother's funeral. Someone paid for that plane ticket. Should have just asked them for some cash.

Mackenzie had a job working in a lab. She was also just with her family and they knew about this plane ticket and that she was flying back to school. She managed to afford the plane ticket out to attend her grandma's funeral, it was probably a round trip ticket...not sure why this guy that she had likely never met before would have paid for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who would think this guy had two nickels to rub together? He lives in Utah. Did he pay for the plane flight? (No.) That's what makes this Sugar Daddy story hard to buy.

He probably lied and said he was some tech entrepreneur or attorney from out of town and was just in the area for a few weeks for work. And she believed him, because she’s 23 years old and ultimately pretty sheltered despite her wannabe “sugar baby” lifestyle.

If she had googled him she would have seen nothing to cause her alarm. The age difference between them wasn't that great - she was 23, he 31. As far as I'm aware he didn't have a criminal history, by all appearances he really did seem like a run of the mill computer geek. Mackenzie obviously felt comfortable letting her guard down with him.

The business of meeting in the park at 3am with her baggage in tow indicates that there was a level of desperation involved in this for Mackenzie. She either really, really needed money or drugs or both.

She was on her way back from her grandmother's funeral. Someone paid for that plane ticket. Should have just asked them for some cash.

Mackenzie had a job working in a lab. She was also just with her family and they knew about this plane ticket and that she was flying back to school. She managed to afford the plane ticket out to attend her grandma's funeral, it was probably a round trip ticket...not sure why this guy that she had likely never met before would have paid for it.

I don't think he paid for the plane ticket. A man who does that doesn't meet his prostitute in a park at 3AM. She had someone in her family pay for the ticket (mom or dad) but didn't want to ask them for cash for her habit.