Prince Harry and Archie

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Frankly... I’m also tired of the comparisons of Kate and Meghan. Their jobs are different. One will be the queen consort one day, as she is married to the heir to the throne. The other is married to his brother, unless something awful happens, will never see the throne.

Do you expect the same things from the CEO of a company, and other, lower level directors?

Aside from that, I’m just going to say this: Kate’s personal wealth comes from her family. Meghan’s is from her own work

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Anonymous wrote:Frankly... I’m also tired of the comparisons of Kate and Meghan. Their jobs are different. One will be the queen consort one day, as she is married to the heir to the throne. The other is married to his brother, unless something awful happens, will never see the throne.

Do you expect the same things from the CEO of a company, and other, lower level directors?

Aside from that, I’m just going to say this: Kate’s personal wealth comes from her family. Meghan’s is from her own work

I actually expect more from the CEO...so.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/tradition/a19830489/julie-montagu-advice-meghan-markle/

That article comes at it from another angle. The only point I was hoping to make is that she might want to throw the public a bone now and then.

Kate has studied extensively bc she had no choice, she has had to work endlessly at learning all of the aristo knowledge and history. She has no choice, and this is as much her work as the public appearances. She has done a great job, weathered insane mockery and criticism, again not published, and still has a lot to do.

Comparatively speaking Meghan and Harry do have a choice and are pretty clear about that. They all know Meghan will never be accepted by the upper echelons, so why even bother? It makes sense.

The turnover of long term staff is problematic, bc they are losing the advice that keeps things roughly contained. Worse yet, H & M are publicly publicly funded, so they risk a ton by playing too many games with the British public, she needs to acquiesce a little.

I’d like to counter this. Kate (and likely her family) quite pointedly CHOSE this life, early on. She had more than 20 years in this game. She took a year off from working before their wedding to learn the game. She has less flexibility, I think, in what is tolerated from her, as she will be the queen consort one day.

I’m also not getting into the “publicly funded” issue, as Kate and Wills are quite heavily funded, but no one seems to worry that Kate has yet to reallynpull her weight in that regard. Meghan doing public appearances a few weeks PP.

There's also the fact that in addition to public funds, William's foundation is underwater by the tune of 1.5 million pounds. Guess who's going to bail him out?

Why people think this man is at all prepared to be King when he can't even steward a bunch of charities is beyond me.

DP. I'm also not getting the 'publicly funded' thing either. It seems the Queen and Prince Charles get public funding from the Sovereign Grant but that it doesn't completely fully cover the cost of the official duties/travel of the royal family so they use some of their vast private fortune. I understand that Prince Charles supplements the income of his sons, although they, too, have a lot of inherited private wealth. From what I've read, the British economy benefits greatly from the royal family in the areas of tourism and business (think about the boost designers get when a royal wears their clothing). I'm not seeing that the royals are all that much of a burden, if any, to the British public.

https://money.cnn.com/2018/05/09/pf/where-queens-money-comes-from-uk-royal-wedding/index.html

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Anonymous wrote:Frankly... I’m also tired of the comparisons of Kate and Meghan. Their jobs are different. One will be the queen consort one day, as she is married to the heir to the throne. The other is married to his brother, unless something awful happens, will never see the throne.

Do you expect the same things from the CEO of a company, and other, lower level directors?

Aside from that, I’m just going to say this: Kate’s personal wealth comes from her family. Meghan’s is from her own work

I actually expect more from the CEO...so.

Right. They should be unimpeachable. Once they start making waves, making news, that's often a bad sign.

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Anonymous wrote:Frankly... I’m also tired of the comparisons of Kate and Meghan. Their jobs are different. One will be the queen consort one day, as she is married to the heir to the throne. The other is married to his brother, unless something awful happens, will never see the throne.

Do you expect the same things from the CEO of a company, and other, lower level directors?

Aside from that, I’m just going to say this: Kate’s personal wealth comes from her family. Meghan’s is from her own work

DP. I will also say that HG is rough. And having your first baby in your late 30s is rough. I wonder if either of them will make any larger realizations from those experiences.

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Anonymous wrote:Frankly... I’m also tired of the comparisons of Kate and Meghan. Their jobs are different. One will be the queen consort one day, as she is married to the heir to the throne. The other is married to his brother, unless something awful happens, will never see the throne.

Do you expect the same things from the CEO of a company, and other, lower level directors?

Aside from that, I’m just going to say this: Kate’s personal wealth comes from her family. Meghan’s is from her own work

I actually expect more from the CEO...so.

Right. They should be unimpeachable. Once they start making waves, making news, that's often a bad sign.

Well, before they're unimpeachable they need to be setting a standard for the entire corporation or company (or in this case -- countries) to be judged by.

Starting with putting in the work to make their vision a success. As Queen Elizabeth II said "I have to be seen to be believed".

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Anonymous wrote:Frankly... I’m also tired of the comparisons of Kate and Meghan. Their jobs are different. One will be the queen consort one day, as she is married to the heir to the throne. The other is married to his brother, unless something awful happens, will never see the throne.

Do you expect the same things from the CEO of a company, and other, lower level directors?

Aside from that, I’m just going to say this: Kate’s personal wealth comes from her family. Meghan’s is from her own work

I actually expect more from the CEO...so.

Right. They should be unimpeachable. Once they start making waves, making news, that's often a bad sign.

Well, before they're unimpeachable they need to be setting a standard for the entire corporation or company (or in this case -- countries) to be judged by.

Starting with putting in the work to make their vision a success. As Queen Elizabeth II said "I have to be seen to be believed".

Okay, seriously. William isn't the CEO. That's Elizabeth.

Whether or not he's lazy or an incompetent steward, being the head isn't his job right now. He's not supposed to be.

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Anonymous wrote:Frankly... I’m also tired of the comparisons of Kate and Meghan. Their jobs are different. One will be the queen consort one day, as she is married to the heir to the throne. The other is married to his brother, unless something awful happens, will never see the throne.

Do you expect the same things from the CEO of a company, and other, lower level directors?

Aside from that, I’m just going to say this: Kate’s personal wealth comes from her family. Meghan’s is from her own work

I actually expect more from the CEO...so.

Right. They should be unimpeachable. Once they start making waves, making news, that's often a bad sign.

Well, before they're unimpeachable they need to be setting a standard for the entire corporation or company (or in this case -- countries) to be judged by.

Starting with putting in the work to make their vision a success. As Queen Elizabeth II said "I have to be seen to be believed".

Okay, seriously. William isn't the CEO. That's Elizabeth.

Whether or not he's lazy or an incompetent steward, being the head isn't his job right now. He's not supposed to be.

Okay, so analogies are lost on this crew. Director and middle management. Is that good enough for you?

He’s not supposed to be the head, but he should be acting in a way that supports the company and it’s CEO. There is a succession plan, and he’s on it. If he felt like it was a real job He would realize he needs to step up his game, but unfortunately, as it’s a birth succession, he doesn’t care.

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Anonymous wrote:Frankly... I’m also tired of the comparisons of Kate and Meghan. Their jobs are different. One will be the queen consort one day, as she is married to the heir to the throne. The other is married to his brother, unless something awful happens, will never see the throne.

Do you expect the same things from the CEO of a company, and other, lower level directors?

Aside from that, I’m just going to say this: Kate’s personal wealth comes from her family. Meghan’s is from her own work

DP. I will also say that HG is rough. And having your first baby in your late 30s is rough. I wonder if either of them will make any larger realizations from those experiences.

Such as? A large plurality of women in this area have their first baby in their late 30s/early 40s. We go on with our lives mostly, work, family, volunteering, etc. Even without the resources of the royals. HG is rough, but it is temporary and not life-altering.

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Anonymous wrote:Frankly... I’m also tired of the comparisons of Kate and Meghan. Their jobs are different. One will be the queen consort one day, as she is married to the heir to the throne. The other is married to his brother, unless something awful happens, will never see the throne.

Do you expect the same things from the CEO of a company, and other, lower level directors?

Aside from that, I’m just going to say this: Kate’s personal wealth comes from her family. Meghan’s is from her own work

I actually expect more from the CEO...so.

Right. They should be unimpeachable. Once they start making waves, making news, that's often a bad sign.

Well, before they're unimpeachable they need to be setting a standard for the entire corporation or company (or in this case -- countries) to be judged by.

Starting with putting in the work to make their vision a success. As Queen Elizabeth II said "I have to be seen to be believed".

Okay, seriously. William isn't the CEO. That's Elizabeth.

Whether or not he's lazy or an incompetent steward, being the head isn't his job right now. He's not supposed to be.

Okay, so analogies are lost on this crew. Director and middle management. Is that good enough for you?

He’s not supposed to be the head, but he should be acting in a way that supports the company and it’s CEO. There is a succession plan, and he’s on it. If he felt like it was a real job He would realize he needs to step up his game, but unfortunately, as it’s a birth succession, he doesn’t care.

And completely unlike his father. For all of Charles' personal foibles, he has amassed great convening power and built and extraordinary philanthropic network through the Princes Trust and Prince's Foundation. Hell, even his homes Highgrove and Birkhall are models of conservation and are working farms, or teaching estates for much of the year. He's ingenious in leveraging his assets and talents. Harry is emulating him. William clearly is not.

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Anonymous wrote:Frankly... I’m also tired of the comparisons of Kate and Meghan. Their jobs are different. One will be the queen consort one day, as she is married to the heir to the throne. The other is married to his brother, unless something awful happens, will never see the throne.

Do you expect the same things from the CEO of a company, and other, lower level directors?

Aside from that, I’m just going to say this: Kate’s personal wealth comes from her family. Meghan’s is from her own work

I actually expect more from the CEO...so.

Right. They should be unimpeachable. Once they start making waves, making news, that's often a bad sign.

Well, before they're unimpeachable they need to be setting a standard for the entire corporation or company (or in this case -- countries) to be judged by.

Starting with putting in the work to make their vision a success. As Queen Elizabeth II said "I have to be seen to be believed".

Okay, seriously. William isn't the CEO. That's Elizabeth.

Whether or not he's lazy or an incompetent steward, being the head isn't his job right now. He's not supposed to be.

Okay, so analogies are lost on this crew. Director and middle management. Is that good enough for you?

He’s not supposed to be the head, but he should be acting in a way that supports the company and it’s CEO. There is a succession plan, and he’s on it. If he felt like it was a real job He would realize he needs to step up his game, but unfortunately, as it’s a birth succession, he doesn’t care.

And completely unlike his father. For all of Charles' personal foibles, he has amassed great convening power and built and extraordinary philanthropic network through the Princes Trust and Prince's Foundation. Hell, even his homes Highgrove and Birkhall are models of conservation and are working farms, or teaching estates for much of the year. He's ingenious in leveraging his assets and talents. Harry is emulating him. William clearly is not.

I’m the PP, and I’ll even say, although not a Charles fan, I’ve been very impressed by his work.

FWIW, I think Camilla has been good for him. As amazing as I think Diana was, I know she likely wasn’t HIS pick, but picked for all the reason Kate has been picked for William - safe, pretty, marketable, quiet, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Frankly... I’m also tired of the comparisons of Kate and Meghan. Their jobs are different. One will be the queen consort one day, as she is married to the heir to the throne. The other is married to his brother, unless something awful happens, will never see the throne.

Do you expect the same things from the CEO of a company, and other, lower level directors?

Aside from that, I’m just going to say this: Kate’s personal wealth comes from her family. Meghan’s is from her own work

DP. I will also say that HG is rough. And having your first baby in your late 30s is rough. I wonder if either of them will make any larger realizations from those experiences.

Such as? A large plurality of women in this area have their first baby in their late 30s/early 40s. We go on with our lives mostly, work, family, volunteering, etc. Even without the resources of the royals. HG is rough, but it is temporary and not life-altering.

I don't know how bad Kate had it but I had it and am in a support group for it on Facebook and for some women it is life altering and calling it temporary is extremely dismissive of the extraordinary pain and suffering some women go through.

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Anonymous wrote:Frankly... I’m also tired of the comparisons of Kate and Meghan. Their jobs are different. One will be the queen consort one day, as she is married to the heir to the throne. The other is married to his brother, unless something awful happens, will never see the throne.

Do you expect the same things from the CEO of a company, and other, lower level directors?

Aside from that, I’m just going to say this: Kate’s personal wealth comes from her family. Meghan’s is from her own work

DP. I will also say that HG is rough. And having your first baby in your late 30s is rough. I wonder if either of them will make any larger realizations from those experiences.

Such as? A large plurality of women in this area have their first baby in their late 30s/early 40s. We go on with our lives mostly, work, family, volunteering, etc. Even without the resources of the royals. HG is rough, but it is temporary and not life-altering.

I don't know how bad Kate had it but I had it and am in a support group for it on Facebook and for some women it is life altering and calling it temporary is extremely dismissive of the extraordinary pain and suffering some women go through.

If it was that life altering, she would have stopped with the heir and the spare, (basically as required as wife to Wills) and not gone on to a third child.

And no offence meant, but HG is a condition limited by the time frame of pregnancy. I understand it is very traumatic during that time, worrying for your own health and that of the baby. But, the reality is, it is relieved by childbirth. You don’t have to worry about it during day to day life, ever again, unless you decide to become pregnant again.

The reality is, this is a pattern for Kate. She has NEVER had a real job. She worked for her parents, and then worked part time. She quit the part time gig to prepare for being a Royal, and now as a Royal, has more or less avoided full time work in her role. I get that she is a mother of three, but like anyone would say on here; this is a choice. She has a job, for which she is paid and compensated for in terms of housing, etc. She has nannies at her disposal. She has resources that many women don’t have, and is still refusing to set an example of what a woman taking care of business can be.

This is where I have respect for Meghan. She had her own career and wealth already. She is clearly willing to work, even with some mis steps. She will got to Africa if that’s what is required.

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Anonymous wrote:Frankly... I’m also tired of the comparisons of Kate and Meghan. Their jobs are different. One will be the queen consort one day, as she is married to the heir to the throne. The other is married to his brother, unless something awful happens, will never see the throne.

Do you expect the same things from the CEO of a company, and other, lower level directors?

Aside from that, I’m just going to say this: Kate’s personal wealth comes from her family. Meghan’s is from her own work

DP. I will also say that HG is rough. And having your first baby in your late 30s is rough. I wonder if either of them will make any larger realizations from those experiences.

Such as? A large plurality of women in this area have their first baby in their late 30s/early 40s. We go on with our lives mostly, work, family, volunteering, etc. Even without the resources of the royals. HG is rough, but it is temporary and not life-altering.

I don't know how bad Kate had it but I had it and am in a support group for it on Facebook and for some women it is life altering and calling it temporary is extremely dismissive of the extraordinary pain and suffering some women go through.

If it was that life altering, she would have stopped with the heir and the spare, (basically as required as wife to Wills) and not gone on to a third child.

And no offence meant, but HG is a condition limited by the time frame of pregnancy. I understand it is very traumatic during that time, worrying for your own health and that of the baby. But, the reality is, it is relieved by childbirth. You don’t have to worry about it during day to day life, ever again, unless you decide to become pregnant again.

The reality is, this is a pattern for Kate. She has NEVER had a real job. She worked for her parents, and then worked part time. She quit the part time gig to prepare for being a Royal, and now as a Royal, has more or less avoided full time work in her role. I get that she is a mother of three, but like anyone would say on here; this is a choice. She has a job, for which she is paid and compensated for in terms of housing, etc. She has nannies at her disposal. She has resources that many women don’t have, and is still refusing to set an example of what a woman taking care of business can be.

This is where I have respect for Meghan. She had her own career and wealth already. She is clearly willing to work, even with some mis steps. She will got to Africa if that’s what is required.

As an aside.. if Kate found her HG to be so life altering, she could choose to help awareness, research, medical care, etc. towards that cause. That is her role.
If she beLieves mothers should have 18 months off after birth to care for their children, she could support that cause. Or at least support women who don’t have the types of resources she has.

Of course, her patronage is mostly based on sport and the like (croquet / lawn tennis / sailing / art).

https://www.royal.uk/charities-and-patronages?name=&mrf=2917&field_themes_target_id=&field_world_region_value=&page=1

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Anonymous wrote:Frankly... I’m also tired of the comparisons of Kate and Meghan. Their jobs are different. One will be the queen consort one day, as she is married to the heir to the throne. The other is married to his brother, unless something awful happens, will never see the throne.

Do you expect the same things from the CEO of a company, and other, lower level directors?

Aside from that, I’m just going to say this: Kate’s personal wealth comes from her family. Meghan’s is from her own work

DP. I will also say that HG is rough. And having your first baby in your late 30s is rough. I wonder if either of them will make any larger realizations from those experiences.

Such as? A large plurality of women in this area have their first baby in their late 30s/early 40s. We go on with our lives mostly, work, family, volunteering, etc. Even without the resources of the royals. HG is rough, but it is temporary and not life-altering.

I don't know how bad Kate had it but I had it and am in a support group for it on Facebook and for some women it is life altering and calling it temporary is extremely dismissive of the extraordinary pain and suffering some women go through.

If it was that life altering, she would have stopped with the heir and the spare, (basically as required as wife to Wills) and not gone on to a third child.

And no offence meant, but HG is a condition limited by the time frame of pregnancy. I understand it is very traumatic during that time, worrying for your own health and that of the baby. But, the reality is, it is relieved by childbirth. You don’t have to worry about it during day to day life, ever again, unless you decide to become pregnant again.

The reality is, this is a pattern for Kate. She has NEVER had a real job. She worked for her parents, and then worked part time. She quit the part time gig to prepare for being a Royal, and now as a Royal, has more or less avoided full time work in her role. I get that she is a mother of three, but like anyone would say on here; this is a choice. She has a job, for which she is paid and compensated for in terms of housing, etc. She has nannies at her disposal. She has resources that many women don’t have, and is still refusing to set an example of what a woman taking care of business can be.

This is where I have respect for Meghan. She had her own career and wealth already. She is clearly willing to work, even with some mis steps. She will got to Africa if that’s what is required.

As an aside.. if Kate found her HG to be so life altering, she could choose to help awareness, research, medical care, etc. towards that cause. That is her role.
If she beLieves mothers should have 18 months off after birth to care for their children, she could support that cause. Or at least support women who don’t have the types of resources she has.

Of course, her patronage is mostly based on sport and the like (croquet / lawn tennis / sailing / art).

https://www.royal.uk/charities-and-patronages?name=&mrf=2917&field_themes_target_id=&field_world_region_value=&page=1

I am the PP who has/had HG and is in the support group and I actually really agree that she should be doing more to bring awareness to it.

And you can say it is cured by pregnancy but you can tell that to the women who's teeth have all started rotting from the repeated vomit, from the women who have permanent renal damage or the women who lost their jobs/homes because they couldn't work, to the women who's finances are destroyed by $1000 a month in ER visits for fluids for 9 months. But I know, severe HG isn't the topic of this thread and she had better medical care for it than most women get. The HG community in general is happy that the fact that she had it brought awareness but let me tell you after having been through it myself, if I had a platform like hers I would be using it to bring awareness to HG.