Stop the FCV (DA) and McLean (ECNL) hate

[Anonymous]

MU could be a force if they make it through this coming season. They now have a pipeline and does any wonder if the Reston coach that everyone talks about in Mclean will migrate his kids to MU? He coaches Reston. There is a lot of talent in Reston. The key will be if this team can get through this year and it does look tough. I don't know who will be on the current team for 06 anyway. From what I am told, a lot of the O6 from Spirit left for ECNL. There marketing of PT players also is not a good idea. PT players do not help the actual teams and cause friction on the actual team if they are bringing up week to week and not just for an injury sub.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“Before the existence of two national leagues, exactly how many National Champion teams did both clubs produce?”

The answer is that McLean produced several. FCV none, but had some really strong teams too. McLean regularly beat FCV and was the superior ECNL club back when there were only these two elite teams and ECNL was the only game in town. Currently, at the DA/ECNL level for girls ages 05 and older, FCV has the best local teams and players overall and a few of their older age group da teams have a solid chance of winning at da nationals later this month. The rest of FCV teams (non DA) and their boys side is nothing special compared to all the other local clubs. Currently McLean has a few “near the top” ECNL teams that will also compete at nationals later this month. They will not win any. McLean’s non-ECNL teams are also nothing special. So two conclusions:

A) the dilution argument is correct in that McLean’s top teams have been dilluted by Arlington DA, MU DA, and BRYC ECNL and to a lesser degree due to geography, Loudoun ECNL and VDA ECNL. FCV’s DA program at the older kids level is as strong as it ever was due to two reasons: 1) the allure of the DA platform; 2) the fact they merged with Loudoun in 2017 in the shared DA approach, then split off, taking their best players in the process ... hence getting the best FCV and Loudoun players in the process. However, the dilution affect is already impacting FCV dominance at the elite level at the 06 and younger levels and will continue to do so.

B) Most kid’s don’t play DA or ECNL. For those kids, playing at FCV or McLean offers no advantages over other clubs (unless their practice fields are close to home) and in the case of FCV, due to their staff’s obsessive focus on the top girls teams only, their shoddy administration, and their bait and switch tactics on coaches for the non-da teams, is a place to avoid if possible.

Finally, college coaches and recruiting. Yes, the teams with the better records will be watched more and those in DA with better records will be watched the most. However a high performing ECNL team will get watched more than a poor performing DA team on average. Either way with more da and ECNL teams there are more local girls than ever getting some exposure, but each exposure is more dilluted due to the overall increase in teams since a coach / scout can only be in one place at a time.

Thank you to the BRYC coach or delusional parent that clearly spends too much time on this site. Claiming that McLean is losing players to BRYC is ludicrous. BRYC’S recent recruiting attempts and numbers tell it all.

[Anonymous]

Living vicariously through your children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Living vicariously through your children.

Ah yes, this tired trope again. You're clearly living at a higher level than those of us invested in our children's activities. Why are you here?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Living vicariously through your children.

Ah yes, this tired trope again. You're clearly living at a higher level than those of us invested in our children's activities. Why are you here?

To bust your b@lls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Living vicariously through your children.

Ah yes, this tired trope again. You're clearly living at a higher level than those of us invested in our children's activities. Why are you here?

To bust your b@lls.

you know you can type balls without the @ symbol.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Living vicariously through your children.

Sadly, quite a few parents seem to suffer from this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Living vicariously through your children.

Sadly, quite a few parents seem to suffer from this.

My daughters team is the best. Period
Your daughters team is trash. Period
Top D1 schools want my kid. Period
Your kid cant get off the bench. Period
My daughters league is the most scouted. Period
Your daughters league is 2nd tier. Period
Blah..blah...blah

Strokefest

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“Before the existence of two national leagues, exactly how many National Champion teams did both clubs produce?”

The answer is that McLean produced several. FCV none, but had some really strong teams too. McLean regularly beat FCV and was the superior ECNL club back when there were only these two elite teams and ECNL was the only game in town. Currently, at the DA/ECNL level for girls ages 05 and older, FCV has the best local teams and players overall and a few of their older age group da teams have a solid chance of winning at da nationals later this month. The rest of FCV teams (non DA) and their boys side is nothing special compared to all the other local clubs. Currently McLean has a few “near the top” ECNL teams that will also compete at nationals later this month. They will not win any. McLean’s non-ECNL teams are also nothing special. So two conclusions:

A) the dilution argument is correct in that McLean’s top teams have been dilluted by Arlington DA, MU DA, and BRYC ECNL and to a lesser degree due to geography, Loudoun ECNL and VDA ECNL. FCV’s DA program at the older kids level is as strong as it ever was due to two reasons: 1) the allure of the DA platform; 2) the fact they merged with Loudoun in 2017 in the shared DA approach, then split off, taking their best players in the process ... hence getting the best FCV and Loudoun players in the process. However, the dilution affect is already impacting FCV dominance at the elite level at the 06 and younger levels and will continue to do so.

B) Most kid’s don’t play DA or ECNL. For those kids, playing at FCV or McLean offers no advantages over other clubs (unless their practice fields are close to home) and in the case of FCV, due to their staff’s obsessive focus on the top girls teams only, their shoddy administration, and their bait and switch tactics on coaches for the non-da teams, is a place to avoid if possible.

Finally, college coaches and recruiting. Yes, the teams with the better records will be watched more and those in DA with better records will be watched the most. However a high performing ECNL team will get watched more than a poor performing DA team on average. Either way with more da and ECNL teams there are more local girls than ever getting some exposure, but each exposure is more dilluted due to the overall increase in teams since a coach / scout can only be in one place at a time.

Go check the coach attendance. It’s great for both. You’re fools if you think one league gets more college exposure than the other. It comes down to teams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Before the existence of two national leagues, exactly how many National Champion teams did both clubs produce?”

The answer is that McLean produced several. FCV none, but had some really strong teams too. McLean regularly beat FCV and was the superior ECNL club back when there were only these two elite teams and ECNL was the only game in town. Currently, at the DA/ECNL level for girls ages 05 and older, FCV has the best local teams and players overall and a few of their older age group da teams have a solid chance of winning at da nationals later this month. The rest of FCV teams (non DA) and their boys side is nothing special compared to all the other local clubs. Currently McLean has a few “near the top” ECNL teams that will also compete at nationals later this month. They will not win any. McLean’s non-ECNL teams are also nothing special. So two conclusions:

A) the dilution argument is correct in that McLean’s top teams have been dilluted by Arlington DA, MU DA, and BRYC ECNL and to a lesser degree due to geography, Loudoun ECNL and VDA ECNL. FCV’s DA program at the older kids level is as strong as it ever was due to two reasons: 1) the allure of the DA platform; 2) the fact they merged with Loudoun in 2017 in the shared DA approach, then split off, taking their best players in the process ... hence getting the best FCV and Loudoun players in the process. However, the dilution affect is already impacting FCV dominance at the elite level at the 06 and younger levels and will continue to do so.

B) Most kid’s don’t play DA or ECNL. For those kids, playing at FCV or McLean offers no advantages over other clubs (unless their practice fields are close to home) and in the case of FCV, due to their staff’s obsessive focus on the top girls teams only, their shoddy administration, and their bait and switch tactics on coaches for the non-da teams, is a place to avoid if possible.

Finally, college coaches and recruiting. Yes, the teams with the better records will be watched more and those in DA with better records will be watched the most. However a high performing ECNL team will get watched more than a poor performing DA team on average. Either way with more da and ECNL teams there are more local girls than ever getting some exposure, but each exposure is more dilluted due to the overall increase in teams since a coach / scout can only be in one place at a time.

Go check the coach attendance. It’s great for both. You’re fools if you think one league gets more college exposure than the other. It comes down to teams.

DA drum..boom
Da drum...boom
Da drum...boom
Da drum...boom
Da drum...boom
Da drum...boom

I'd love to throw a rock through it. Some parents are just know it all rookies. The worst kind of know it all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Before the existence of two national leagues, exactly how many National Champion teams did both clubs produce?”

The answer is that McLean produced several. FCV none, but had some really strong teams too. McLean regularly beat FCV and was the superior ECNL club back when there were only these two elite teams and ECNL was the only game in town. Currently, at the DA/ECNL level for girls ages 05 and older, FCV has the best local teams and players overall and a few of their older age group da teams have a solid chance of winning at da nationals later this month. The rest of FCV teams (non DA) and their boys side is nothing special compared to all the other local clubs. Currently McLean has a few “near the top” ECNL teams that will also compete at nationals later this month. They will not win any. McLean’s non-ECNL teams are also nothing special. So two conclusions:

A) the dilution argument is correct in that McLean’s top teams have been dilluted by Arlington DA, MU DA, and BRYC ECNL and to a lesser degree due to geography, Loudoun ECNL and VDA ECNL. FCV’s DA program at the older kids level is as strong as it ever was due to two reasons: 1) the allure of the DA platform; 2) the fact they merged with Loudoun in 2017 in the shared DA approach, then split off, taking their best players in the process ... hence getting the best FCV and Loudoun players in the process. However, the dilution affect is already impacting FCV dominance at the elite level at the 06 and younger levels and will continue to do so.

B) Most kid’s don’t play DA or ECNL. For those kids, playing at FCV or McLean offers no advantages over other clubs (unless their practice fields are close to home) and in the case of FCV, due to their staff’s obsessive focus on the top girls teams only, their shoddy administration, and their bait and switch tactics on coaches for the non-da teams, is a place to avoid if possible.

Finally, college coaches and recruiting. Yes, the teams with the better records will be watched more and those in DA with better records will be watched the most. However a high performing ECNL team will get watched more than a poor performing DA team on average. Either way with more da and ECNL teams there are more local girls than ever getting some exposure, but each exposure is more dilluted due to the overall increase in teams since a coach / scout can only be in one place at a time.

Go check the coach attendance. It’s great for both. You’re fools if you think one league gets more college exposure than the other. It comes down to teams.

Better than that. Here is a link to ECNL showcase coaches roster. Cannot find DA one but the top soccer schools are missing from ecnl list that were at DA events.

https://tgs.totalglobalsports.com/public/collgecoachattending.aspx?eid=962

[Anonymous]

GDA Summer Showcase coaches list is at the bottom of this page.

http://www.ussoccerda.com/2019_summer_showcase

[Anonymous]

You are stuck on stupid!

What "top" college is going to DA and not ECNL? You think "top" colleges are scouting one league? Do you not understand your failed logic?

Please respond with the colleges.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You are stuck on stupid!

What "top" college is going to DA and not ECNL? You think "top" colleges are scouting one league? Do you not understand your failed logic?

Please respond with the colleges.

Compare the two lists yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You are stuck on stupid!

What "top" college is going to DA and not ECNL? You think "top" colleges are scouting one league? Do you not understand your failed logic?

Please respond with the colleges.

Compare the two lists yourself.

Start with the finalists. UNC and FSU not on ecnl list. Continue from there. I guess the stupid ones are able to read lists.