Gonzaga Kairos Vandalism

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like some heads need to roll among the faculty/ administrators/ chaperones as well. Ultimately the HOS is responsible

No. Ultimately their parents are responsible.

Disagree. The administrators/ chaperones on the trip let this happen.

But as a prospective parent? I’m horrified at an administration that could produce a group of 40+ kids who would do this

The administration didn’t “produce” them their parents did but if they allow them to stay at the school that is on them.

Let me spell it out for you. The administrators at this school- including the HOS who is ultimately responsible- created, fostered, nurtured and allowed a school culture and ethos whereby a sizeable group of a particular class thought it was fine to participate together in actions like this, while on school time and in school care.

As a prospective parent, I find that unconscionable

Fair point but the students and parents shouldn’t be off the hook because they write a big check.

COMPLETELY agree. There is enough blame to go around many times. Question is, what will eventually happen?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From the WaPo article:

"But police were called to the retreat on Jan. 31 to respond to a missing persons report. Soon after they arrived, the student who was thought to be missing was found in his dorm room. Police were told that students were in trouble for an incident, but were not told about any vandalism, said Diane I. Richardson, a spokeswoman for the [Charles County] sheriff’s office."

Yes, and?

What do you mean?! If they knew about the incident and didn’t report it to the police, that is shady. Not to mention the moral aspect—and the irony of not telling the police about the incident during a religious retreat that was designed to help students grow in their relationship with God.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the WaPo article:

"But police were called to the retreat on Jan. 31 to respond to a missing persons report. Soon after they arrived, the student who was thought to be missing was found in his dorm room. Police were told that students were in trouble for an incident, but were not told about any vandalism, said Diane I. Richardson, a spokeswoman for the [Charles County] sheriff’s office."

Yes, and?

What do you mean?! If they knew about the incident and didn’t report it to the police, that is shady. Not to mention the moral aspect—and the irony of not telling the police about the incident during a religious retreat that was designed to help students grow in their relationship with God.

A kid who was in his room was reported missing to the police?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the WaPo article:

"But police were called to the retreat on Jan. 31 to respond to a missing persons report. Soon after they arrived, the student who was thought to be missing was found in his dorm room. Police were told that students were in trouble for an incident, but were not told about any vandalism, said Diane I. Richardson, a spokeswoman for the [Charles County] sheriff’s office."

Yes, and?

What do you mean?! If they knew about the incident and didn’t report it to the police, that is shady. Not to mention the moral aspect—and the irony of not telling the police about the incident during a religious retreat that was designed to help students grow in their relationship with God.

A kid who was in his room was reported missing to the police?

He probably came back to the dorms after they reported him missing. Why is this part of the story suspect to you? Why not the part about vandalism at the house and environmental damage of throwing a refrigerator in the river?

[Anonymous]

This was "pack behavior" at its finest. I'm sure some of the group were very hesitant in participating, but peer pressure, testosterone, etc. played a huge part in their inclusion. Remember that Gillette commercial that had everyone up in arms? You may not agree with the commercial in its entirety, but they were right when they said "boys will be boys". We, as parents, have to do better at raising our children to not only be better individuals, but to also be strong enough to say to the next person, "Hey, that's not right!"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the WaPo article:

"But police were called to the retreat on Jan. 31 to respond to a missing persons report. Soon after they arrived, the student who was thought to be missing was found in his dorm room. Police were told that students were in trouble for an incident, but were not told about any vandalism, said Diane I. Richardson, a spokeswoman for the [Charles County] sheriff’s office."

Yes, and?

What do you mean?! If they knew about the incident and didn’t report it to the police, that is shady. Not to mention the moral aspect—and the irony of not telling the police about the incident during a religious retreat that was designed to help students grow in their relationship with God.

A kid who was in his room was reported missing to the police?

He probably came back to the dorms after they reported him missing. Why is this part of the story suspect to you? Why not the part about vandalism at the house and environmental damage of throwing a refrigerator in the river?

Logic fail. I asked a question. That doesn't mean I don't have others.

[Anonymous]

Pardon me stewardess, but I speak Jesuit.....the underlined has been translated for your enjoyment.

The Gonzaga leader said “each student has been issued consequences commensurate with his involvement (Dad's donations).” Those consequences (checks), he wrote, “mark only the beginning of a longer process for students to reflect on their actions (learn that some payoffs are annuities).", learn from their mistakes (That Dad can write checks that make everything ok), and make amends consistent with our Christian ideals(growing endowment).”

[Anonymous]

Seems pretty clear the school was trying to hide this considering the crimes committed and no mention to the police when investigating the missing person.

[Anonymous]

My son at another high school had Kairos right before GZ. When I mentioned this he said they had found that cabin too. There is a house and what he called a "shed." They explored around it and the woods then returned for lunch/down time. NO ONE thought to go in, vandalize, go back a second day, etc.

WTF GZ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This was "pack behavior" at its finest. I'm sure some of the group were very hesitant in participating, but peer pressure, testosterone, etc. played a huge part in their inclusion. Remember that Gillette commercial that had everyone up in arms? You may not agree with the commercial in its entirety, but they were right when they said "boys will be boys". We, as parents, have to do better at raising our children to not only be better individuals, but to also be strong enough to say to the next person, "Hey, that's not right!"

Groups of young men seem uncontrollable . Uncontrollable and extremely stupid and self centered. They’re so spoiled they don’t even see how someone might have wanted to use this modest house? How can you serve meals to the homeless but then literally destroy a home ??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like some heads need to roll among the faculty/ administrators/ chaperones as well. Ultimately the HOS is responsible

No. Ultimately their parents are responsible.

Disagree. The administrators/ chaperones on the trip let this happen.

But as a prospective parent? I’m horrified at an administration that could produce a group of 40+ kids who would do this

The administration didn’t “produce” them their parents did but if they allow them to stay at the school that is on them.

Let me spell it out for you. The administrators at this school- including the HOS who is ultimately responsible- created, fostered, nurtured and allowed a school culture and ethos whereby a sizeable group of a particular class thought it was fine to participate together in actions like this, while on school time and in school care.

As a prospective parent, I find that unconscionable

Agreed. But it has been going on for years there for some reason.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pardon me stewardess, but I speak Jesuit.....the underlined has been translated for your enjoyment.

The Gonzaga leader said “each student has been issued consequences commensurate with his involvement (Dad's donations).” Those consequences (checks), he wrote, “mark only the beginning of a longer process for students to reflect on their actions (learn that some payoffs are annuities).", learn from their mistakes (That Dad can write checks that make everything ok), and make amends consistent with our Christian ideals(growing endowment).”

That was THE most bullshit statement ever.
If they told me that those boys were going to personally build a new functioning house there then I’d think that maybe they were being taught something.
They were already at the retreat center ‘reflecting on their Christian values’ when they destroyed a house - how is more ‘reflection’ going to help?

[Anonymous]

Most obnoxious parents from a feeder school sent their sons to GZ. Total climbers, the whole lot. Happy the school finally leaked it. Wont put a stop to it but glad it is out.

[Anonymous]

The administrators leaked the story to check the parents. The mob mentality, binge drinkers, and alcohol ragers at these schools is completely out of control.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pardon me stewardess, but I speak Jesuit.....the underlined has been translated for your enjoyment.

The Gonzaga leader said “each student has been issued consequences commensurate with his involvement (Dad's donations).” Those consequences (checks), he wrote, “mark only the beginning of a longer process for students to reflect on their actions (learn that some payoffs are annuities).", learn from their mistakes (That Dad can write checks that make everything ok), and make amends consistent with our Christian ideals(growing endowment).”

That was THE most bullshit statement ever.
If they told me that those boys were going to personally build a new functioning house there then I’d think that maybe they were being taught something.
They were already at the retreat center ‘reflecting on their Christian values’ when they destroyed a house - how is more ‘reflection’ going to help?

GZ parent here and I agree with you.